Well subdermal tracking devices totally aren’t Orwellian…
And no before the Reformbots come out in force I’m not defending murderers and nonces.
Azzadal on
Of course they did. Totally on brand for the lizards running tech companies
with that said though:
> Mahmood told the tech companies she wants “deeper collaboration between government and tech to solve the prison capacity crisis, reduce reoffending and make communities safer”
absolutely gagging to give away control and peoples data to unelected amoral corporations
totally on brand for a neoliberal
socratic-meth on
> Tracking devices inserted under offenders’ skin, robots assigned to contain prisoners and driverless vehicles used to transport them were among the measures proposed by technology companies to ministers who are gathering ideas to tackle the crisis in the UK justice system.
Not nearly Orwellian enough. Let’s contract Neuralink to build a device that goes in the brain and gives them an electric shock every time they think about crime.
ValuableMajor4815 on
To aid their rehabilitation they should also implant speakers in their ears that would whisper, in different voices, kind encouragements, like that everyone around them wants to get them. In reference to help.
Companies like these are really trying their best to give credence to the manifesto of a certain cabin dweller.
FuzzBuket on
Starting to think palantir might be bunch of lunatics with fascist tendencies founded by a man that literally puts young people’s blood in his veins.
IsWasMaybeAMefi on
I have NFC implants in my hands. They are not picked up through an airport scanner – be that walk through, scatter or handheld. I can read/write to them using my phone but the phone has to be held against the skin and orientated correctly.
They are passive – they do nothing until they are scanned.
So how the hell they imagine someone could be ‘tracked’ is beyond me.
They already have ankle things for location / sobriety anyway.
caocao16 on
‘Me want huge government contract…NOW’ – Tech people probo
egg1st on
How’s it different than the current tags? Beyond less visible to others
Wadarkhu on
Already got ankle tags, just make them better.
Why’s it gotta be under the skin? Just sounds like the goal would be to eventually be able to do it discreetly to unconsenting people who haven’t even committed crimes but are “at risk” or committing future crimes.
I don’t believe in book banks but people in the government shouldn’t be able to read *1984* because I swear they keep trying to use it as a guide.
ethos_required on
Sounds great. We should not tolerate repeat criminals, put into place whatever we can to stop reoffending.
xmBQWugdxjaA on
They shouldn’t need trackers because they should be in prison.
Super_Plastic5069 on
And then they’ll link it to your bank account, your medical records, if you get a job, your social media yada yada yada. And you’d better tow the line or you get electronically removed from society 😉
Krammn on
Maybe instead of directing doctors to surgically implant trackers under people’s skin, we could instead direct them to clear the current NHS backlog.
FewEstablishment2696 on
Haven’t the government spent hundreds of millions on housing in Rwanda? Sounds like a perfect place to relocate released offenders and their families.
Diligent-Suspect2930 on
‘Other suggestions from the tech companies included using high-powered quantum computers to “analyse past data to predict future behaviours and create diversion paths” and to automate sentencing calculations in the overstretched probation service.’
I have a feeling I saw a documentary about that some time ago, I think it was called Minority Report 🙃
NoRecipe3350 on
I read this article and let out a long laugh at one of the reason being the massive shortage of prison places, when really you can just knock up a prison in an incredibly short time. Sure they might be sleeping in tents and sheds for the first few weeks, but it’s not absurd to be able to create holding places if there is need. As a start, only the most physically fit lags will go in the tent camps, all the old codgers with dodgy knees or whatever will stay put- most prisoners are young uns so it’s an easy one.
Prison camps are 2000+ year old technology. The Romans and even earlier civilisations mastered the technology of building camps to hold people (slaves, defeated enemies, indeed fortified camps for the legions defence and to prevent desertion.
It’s like some kind of cyberpunk dystopia, tech is cheaper than earthworks and barbed wire.
BurnerFairy on
We need to take a stand in the UK, against Palantir and biometric surveillance more generally. Facial recognition, geo-location tracking, DNA data harvesting etc have gone too far already and we’re asleep to the threat. Palantir and others started coming for our freedom years ago.
Problem is most people follow the “I’ve got nothing to hide” line of thinking and can’t imagine this technology being used for authoritarian control.
People are already being locked up for social media posts and peaceful protests and it’s only going to get much, much worse.
South-Stand on
Lets give Palantir the details of all the criminals in British jails and parolees to help them with their nefarious evil plans
brainburger on
>Tracking devices inserted under offenders’ skin, robots assigned to contain prisoners and driverless vehicles used to transport.
I am not sure any of these are technically viable at the moment. Trackers need to transmit to a network so need an antenna, and a battery. Even an Apple Air-tag seems too big for implantation under skin.
On the other hand, I rather like the idea of tracking as a tool for crime prevention, We could even use mobile phones with face and fingerprint recognition to do it. With the right software we could have curfews, geo-fencing to keep offenders out of certain areas, enforce bans on meeting between individuals with the trackers and so on. This could reduce the need for prison.
Cheap-Rate-8996 on
I was under the impression it was not currently possible to implant a location tracker under a person’s skin like this.
GPS tracking devices require components such as antennas, receivers, transmitters, and power sources. All of which are too large to be safely implanted under the skin. Existing microchips used for identification purposes, like RFID implants, are small enough for subdermal insertion but do not have the capability to transmit real-time location data.
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Well subdermal tracking devices totally aren’t Orwellian…
And no before the Reformbots come out in force I’m not defending murderers and nonces.
Of course they did. Totally on brand for the lizards running tech companies
with that said though:
> Mahmood told the tech companies she wants “deeper collaboration between government and tech to solve the prison capacity crisis, reduce reoffending and make communities safer”
absolutely gagging to give away control and peoples data to unelected amoral corporations
totally on brand for a neoliberal
> Tracking devices inserted under offenders’ skin, robots assigned to contain prisoners and driverless vehicles used to transport them were among the measures proposed by technology companies to ministers who are gathering ideas to tackle the crisis in the UK justice system.
Not nearly Orwellian enough. Let’s contract Neuralink to build a device that goes in the brain and gives them an electric shock every time they think about crime.
To aid their rehabilitation they should also implant speakers in their ears that would whisper, in different voices, kind encouragements, like that everyone around them wants to get them. In reference to help.
Companies like these are really trying their best to give credence to the manifesto of a certain cabin dweller.
Starting to think palantir might be bunch of lunatics with fascist tendencies founded by a man that literally puts young people’s blood in his veins.
I have NFC implants in my hands. They are not picked up through an airport scanner – be that walk through, scatter or handheld. I can read/write to them using my phone but the phone has to be held against the skin and orientated correctly.
They are passive – they do nothing until they are scanned.
So how the hell they imagine someone could be ‘tracked’ is beyond me.
They already have ankle things for location / sobriety anyway.
‘Me want huge government contract…NOW’ – Tech people probo
How’s it different than the current tags? Beyond less visible to others
Already got ankle tags, just make them better.
Why’s it gotta be under the skin? Just sounds like the goal would be to eventually be able to do it discreetly to unconsenting people who haven’t even committed crimes but are “at risk” or committing future crimes.
I don’t believe in book banks but people in the government shouldn’t be able to read *1984* because I swear they keep trying to use it as a guide.
Sounds great. We should not tolerate repeat criminals, put into place whatever we can to stop reoffending.
They shouldn’t need trackers because they should be in prison.
And then they’ll link it to your bank account, your medical records, if you get a job, your social media yada yada yada. And you’d better tow the line or you get electronically removed from society 😉
Maybe instead of directing doctors to surgically implant trackers under people’s skin, we could instead direct them to clear the current NHS backlog.
Haven’t the government spent hundreds of millions on housing in Rwanda? Sounds like a perfect place to relocate released offenders and their families.
‘Other suggestions from the tech companies included using high-powered quantum computers to “analyse past data to predict future behaviours and create diversion paths” and to automate sentencing calculations in the overstretched probation service.’
I have a feeling I saw a documentary about that some time ago, I think it was called Minority Report 🙃
I read this article and let out a long laugh at one of the reason being the massive shortage of prison places, when really you can just knock up a prison in an incredibly short time. Sure they might be sleeping in tents and sheds for the first few weeks, but it’s not absurd to be able to create holding places if there is need. As a start, only the most physically fit lags will go in the tent camps, all the old codgers with dodgy knees or whatever will stay put- most prisoners are young uns so it’s an easy one.
Prison camps are 2000+ year old technology. The Romans and even earlier civilisations mastered the technology of building camps to hold people (slaves, defeated enemies, indeed fortified camps for the legions defence and to prevent desertion.
It’s like some kind of cyberpunk dystopia, tech is cheaper than earthworks and barbed wire.
We need to take a stand in the UK, against Palantir and biometric surveillance more generally. Facial recognition, geo-location tracking, DNA data harvesting etc have gone too far already and we’re asleep to the threat. Palantir and others started coming for our freedom years ago.
Problem is most people follow the “I’ve got nothing to hide” line of thinking and can’t imagine this technology being used for authoritarian control.
People are already being locked up for social media posts and peaceful protests and it’s only going to get much, much worse.
Lets give Palantir the details of all the criminals in British jails and parolees to help them with their nefarious evil plans
>Tracking devices inserted under offenders’ skin, robots assigned to contain prisoners and driverless vehicles used to transport.
I am not sure any of these are technically viable at the moment. Trackers need to transmit to a network so need an antenna, and a battery. Even an Apple Air-tag seems too big for implantation under skin.
On the other hand, I rather like the idea of tracking as a tool for crime prevention, We could even use mobile phones with face and fingerprint recognition to do it. With the right software we could have curfews, geo-fencing to keep offenders out of certain areas, enforce bans on meeting between individuals with the trackers and so on. This could reduce the need for prison.
I was under the impression it was not currently possible to implant a location tracker under a person’s skin like this.
GPS tracking devices require components such as antennas, receivers, transmitters, and power sources. All of which are too large to be safely implanted under the skin. Existing microchips used for identification purposes, like RFID implants, are small enough for subdermal insertion but do not have the capability to transmit real-time location data.