these are the kind of dilemmas that come up in a modern society that allows everybody to carry a firearm. A good bystander was killed by a good guy with a gun aiming at another good guy with a gun.
I guess it’s like an act of God or nature or something.
MelodicArtisan on
Appalling.
invalidpassword on
It’s blood red Utah so he probably never will be charged. Justice is not equal in our country — it entirely depends on what state you committed a crime in unless the offense is federal.
friendsafariguy11 on
See you all here next week when he gets a pardon and an explanation that he’s an innocent little lamb just worried about crime.
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Im_Talking on
Happy with your monarchy, Americans?
RoosterMedical on
It’s okay, the woman running for Congress in Illinois who tried to protect people from being kidnapped by ICE agents has been indicted.
polireddituser on
Cops don’t arrest their kin
swrrrrg on
This just needs to get a lot of negative national attention. Then they’ll charge him. The Mormons *hate* bad press. Blame this on them and I guarantee they’ll do anything to make it go away.
v0rt on
Bet they never even charge him.
They’re are trying to make it legal open season on open carrying liberal/left protesters.
Started with a pardon of a MAGAt murderer in Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Garrett_Foster
cmhbob on
> “I think the police always felt that he was acting in good faith,” Tokson said of the volunteer.
Doesn’t matter if he was acting in good faith or not. He killed a person who was not a threat to him. He intended to use lethal force against one person and in the process, killed another.
> **76-5-203. Murder — Penalties– Affirmative defense and special mitigation — Separate offenses. — Affirmative defense and special mitigation — Separate offenses.**
> (2) An actor commits murder if:
> (a) the actor intentionally or knowingly causes the death of another individual;
> (b) intending to cause serious bodily injury to another individual, the actor commits an act clearly dangerous to human life that causes the death of the other individual;
> **76-5-204. Death of other than intended victim no defense.**
> In any prosecution for criminal homicide, evidence that the actor caused the death of a person other than the intended victim shall not constitute a defense for any purpose to criminal homicide.
There’s an affirmative defense section under (4), but the way it reads, the volunteer would be guilty of manslaughter. Simply carrying a gun isn’t a reason to shoot someone. If it were, someone would have been justified in shooting the volunteer.
Investigators didn’t find a bullet casting with something written in sharpie.
okurrrr on
The guy who was killed was a contestant on Project Runway and seemed like one of the sweetest people ever.
sept0r on
Was he an obese ice agent?
SikatSikat on
The absurdity of a State where its legal to carry a rifle around but also legal to wildly shoot at someone carrying that rifle, even if it kills a random bystander. Certainty that’s what a well-regulated militia means.
One_Indication_ on
Kyle Rittenhouse’s best friend?
Fartenstein65 on
Justice is coming for them all.
Denotsyek on
OP having some issues today
RazorsInTheNight82 on
Police and lying, i’m shocked
skippyjip on
“He who saves his country does not violate any law”
-DJT-
Feb 15, 2025
It was never about him. It was about his supporters and what they’ll do next.
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Presidential medal of freedom incoming
these are the kind of dilemmas that come up in a modern society that allows everybody to carry a firearm. A good bystander was killed by a good guy with a gun aiming at another good guy with a gun.
I guess it’s like an act of God or nature or something.
Appalling.
It’s blood red Utah so he probably never will be charged. Justice is not equal in our country — it entirely depends on what state you committed a crime in unless the offense is federal.
See you all here next week when he gets a pardon and an explanation that he’s an innocent little lamb just worried about crime.
[deleted]
Happy with your monarchy, Americans?
It’s okay, the woman running for Congress in Illinois who tried to protect people from being kidnapped by ICE agents has been indicted.
Cops don’t arrest their kin
This just needs to get a lot of negative national attention. Then they’ll charge him. The Mormons *hate* bad press. Blame this on them and I guarantee they’ll do anything to make it go away.
Bet they never even charge him.
They’re are trying to make it legal open season on open carrying liberal/left protesters.
Started with a pardon of a MAGAt murderer in Texas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Garrett_Foster
> “I think the police always felt that he was acting in good faith,” Tokson said of the volunteer.
Doesn’t matter if he was acting in good faith or not. He killed a person who was not a threat to him. He intended to use lethal force against one person and in the process, killed another.
> **76-5-203. Murder — Penalties– Affirmative defense and special mitigation — Separate offenses. — Affirmative defense and special mitigation — Separate offenses.**
> (2) An actor commits murder if:
> (a) the actor intentionally or knowingly causes the death of another individual;
> (b) intending to cause serious bodily injury to another individual, the actor commits an act clearly dangerous to human life that causes the death of the other individual;
> **76-5-204. Death of other than intended victim no defense.**
> In any prosecution for criminal homicide, evidence that the actor caused the death of a person other than the intended victim shall not constitute a defense for any purpose to criminal homicide.
There’s an affirmative defense section under (4), but the way it reads, the volunteer would be guilty of manslaughter. Simply carrying a gun isn’t a reason to shoot someone. If it were, someone would have been justified in shooting the volunteer.
https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title76/Chapter5/76-5-S203.html?v=C76-5-S203_2025050720250507
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Investigators didn’t find a bullet casting with something written in sharpie.
The guy who was killed was a contestant on Project Runway and seemed like one of the sweetest people ever.
Was he an obese ice agent?
The absurdity of a State where its legal to carry a rifle around but also legal to wildly shoot at someone carrying that rifle, even if it kills a random bystander. Certainty that’s what a well-regulated militia means.
Kyle Rittenhouse’s best friend?
Justice is coming for them all.
OP having some issues today
Police and lying, i’m shocked
“He who saves his country does not violate any law”
-DJT-
Feb 15, 2025
It was never about him. It was about his supporters and what they’ll do next.