My course was full of Europeans and Chinese people, but I suppose that is less shocking that people from a hundred miles down the road
ObjectiveHornet676 on
I went to uni in York. Most locals were absolutely lovely, but it was honestly shocking to see the number of people (both students and from the city) who had an irrational hatred of anyone not from Yorkshire. I’m not talking jokey banter hatred either, but genuine deep-seated bigotry. It’s baffling and really quite unpleasant.
mmlemony on
There are 8 million Londoners so it’s statistically likely that some will be there, some of us even have northern parents
epiDXB on
> [Southerners] always ask if they can come to the society, and I say: ‘Not really, because it’s not really the point, it’s not the space we want it to be if there’s people from the south there.’”
That sounds horribly narrow-minded. One of the many benefits of attending university is mixing with a wide range of people, who may – shock! – be from somewhere different from you. This helps broaden your mind and gain a better understanding of the world outside your particular region of one country.
Rather than “fighting” to spend time with the same people you already do at home, maybe take the opportunity to mix with people who aren’t the same as you?
Ajax_Trees_Again on
I think “southern” is being used as a byword for posh public school students here.
There is an actual culture clash between state school northerners and public school southern toffs.
However, if they also mean just normal working class people from say, Portsmouth, then they really need to grow up
BuckfastEnjoyer on
I think pointless hate based on the region of the country one comes from, and articles about it, is just what England needs right now actually
Low_Map4314 on
These kids need to calm down. Otherwise, the culture shock they’ll experience if they ever leave the North will make them curl into a ball and cry
ReligiousGhoul on
Geniunely nothing more trite than the North/South divide debate.
Yes, everyone from down south is a posh, stuck-up tory voter who doesn’t smile and everyone from up north is a cottage dwelling troglodyte with stone money in their pocket and cares too much about bread roll namings.
Shut the fuck up
Fresh_Type_3856 on
25% of students aren’t even British at the University of York.
This article reads like something from 20 years ago.
ItsSuperDefective on
These people sound insufferable. I always hated other Northerners who make such a big deal about being Northern.
paulmclaughlin on
Northern icons Wallace and Grommit?
The fictional characters based on northern stereotypes that were created in Bristol?
yubnubster on
Although the article probably exaggerates the issue a lot, the byline doesn’t really reflect the rest of the article particularly well. The comments here don’t either though.
Asside from that, if the survey quoted is accurate crazy that over half of Northerners at UK universities feel they’ve been mocked/ridiculed etc…in a social setting, for having a Northern accent.
Yes there’s legitimate reasons for northern students to feel frustrated, but aiming the frustration at other students who just happen to be born in the south is illogical.
Yes I feel stupid and less than eloquent reading texts out loud in supervisions in comparison to my Southern counterparts. Though I imagine a student with a thick Essex accent would feel the same.
Yes I have been told I don’t sound like I should be at Cambridge because of my accent. Once. By an international student. At a northern soc event.
The Cam northern society is great but class, privilege etc whatever really isnt as simple as north south or posh accent not posh accent and there’s nothing more irritating than listening to very intelligent people say such very stupid things.
No_Cauliflower_81 on
Plenty of posh northerners at unis in the south too. If you’re at a good uni, chances are that you will encounter people who went to a state school/private school. It’s not the end of the world, if anything that’s the real goal. To be able to send your children to posh schools too.
EFNich on
I have a normal very understandable Northern accent and the amount of Southerners at my university, which was also in Yorkshire, who were incredible rude to me because of it was crazy. Pretending they couldn’t understand me, asking me to say things again because I “sounded so funny”, and correcting how I spoke. Also telling me I “sounded like a local” in a way which made being a “local” sound derogatory.
MyAltPoetryAccount on
Irish guy living in the north here. Yere all the same, hate to break it to ye. The difference is between posh cunts and not posh cunts. North/south makes minimal difference to how sound a person is
Anony_mouse202 on
It’s really interesting how students keep managing to find find new ways to be completely and utterly pathetic wet wipes.
Sudden_Resident_9999 on
Same situation at Durham I found – many students there were from London and the south. In fact one of the colleges – Hild-Bede was known colloquially as “Surrey college,” due to the large amount of students from the southern counties.
BusyBeeBridgette on
One of the perks, for me, of University was not being surrounded by people from my home town.
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My course was full of Europeans and Chinese people, but I suppose that is less shocking that people from a hundred miles down the road
I went to uni in York. Most locals were absolutely lovely, but it was honestly shocking to see the number of people (both students and from the city) who had an irrational hatred of anyone not from Yorkshire. I’m not talking jokey banter hatred either, but genuine deep-seated bigotry. It’s baffling and really quite unpleasant.
There are 8 million Londoners so it’s statistically likely that some will be there, some of us even have northern parents
> [Southerners] always ask if they can come to the society, and I say: ‘Not really, because it’s not really the point, it’s not the space we want it to be if there’s people from the south there.’”
That sounds horribly narrow-minded. One of the many benefits of attending university is mixing with a wide range of people, who may – shock! – be from somewhere different from you. This helps broaden your mind and gain a better understanding of the world outside your particular region of one country.
Rather than “fighting” to spend time with the same people you already do at home, maybe take the opportunity to mix with people who aren’t the same as you?
I think “southern” is being used as a byword for posh public school students here.
There is an actual culture clash between state school northerners and public school southern toffs.
However, if they also mean just normal working class people from say, Portsmouth, then they really need to grow up
I think pointless hate based on the region of the country one comes from, and articles about it, is just what England needs right now actually
These kids need to calm down. Otherwise, the culture shock they’ll experience if they ever leave the North will make them curl into a ball and cry
Geniunely nothing more trite than the North/South divide debate.
Yes, everyone from down south is a posh, stuck-up tory voter who doesn’t smile and everyone from up north is a cottage dwelling troglodyte with stone money in their pocket and cares too much about bread roll namings.
Shut the fuck up
25% of students aren’t even British at the University of York.
This article reads like something from 20 years ago.
These people sound insufferable. I always hated other Northerners who make such a big deal about being Northern.
Northern icons Wallace and Grommit?
The fictional characters based on northern stereotypes that were created in Bristol?
Although the article probably exaggerates the issue a lot, the byline doesn’t really reflect the rest of the article particularly well. The comments here don’t either though.
Asside from that, if the survey quoted is accurate crazy that over half of Northerners at UK universities feel they’ve been mocked/ridiculed etc…in a social setting, for having a Northern accent.
Seems very League of Gentlemen
https://youtu.be/F75d01l5AxM
My opinion as a northener in Cambridge:
Yes there’s legitimate reasons for northern students to feel frustrated, but aiming the frustration at other students who just happen to be born in the south is illogical.
Yes I feel stupid and less than eloquent reading texts out loud in supervisions in comparison to my Southern counterparts. Though I imagine a student with a thick Essex accent would feel the same.
Yes I have been told I don’t sound like I should be at Cambridge because of my accent. Once. By an international student. At a northern soc event.
The Cam northern society is great but class, privilege etc whatever really isnt as simple as north south or posh accent not posh accent and there’s nothing more irritating than listening to very intelligent people say such very stupid things.
Plenty of posh northerners at unis in the south too. If you’re at a good uni, chances are that you will encounter people who went to a state school/private school. It’s not the end of the world, if anything that’s the real goal. To be able to send your children to posh schools too.
I have a normal very understandable Northern accent and the amount of Southerners at my university, which was also in Yorkshire, who were incredible rude to me because of it was crazy. Pretending they couldn’t understand me, asking me to say things again because I “sounded so funny”, and correcting how I spoke. Also telling me I “sounded like a local” in a way which made being a “local” sound derogatory.
Irish guy living in the north here. Yere all the same, hate to break it to ye. The difference is between posh cunts and not posh cunts. North/south makes minimal difference to how sound a person is
It’s really interesting how students keep managing to find find new ways to be completely and utterly pathetic wet wipes.
Same situation at Durham I found – many students there were from London and the south. In fact one of the colleges – Hild-Bede was known colloquially as “Surrey college,” due to the large amount of students from the southern counties.
One of the perks, for me, of University was not being surrounded by people from my home town.