It might be short-sighted or naive of me but I’m not even that fussed. All countries spy, China spies now out of their current embassy, as do we over there.
Frankly, they’re not openly trying to push for a complete regime change here unlike our ‘special’ ally and their tech barons, who I honestly believe to be a far bigger danger to us and Europe.
Brit147 on
Plenty of fat brown envelopes passed around London for that to happen.
SP1570 on
It was inevitable. I cannot honestly believe that MI5 has not set up countermeasures in place.
At this point I am more worried about the US presence in the UK, but that’s another story…
arimuGB on
Honestly, even if this is completely organic to current events, I’m very happy that this has been done in spite of the US’s actions recently. Especially funny as Mike Johnson’s in town.
Nikotelec on
So now all their spies will be in one place rather than spread out across several buildings in London. Struggling to see what the big deal is here.
PhilosopherNo8418 on
I sure hope Labour told China to ease off the endless hacking of British-based companies if they want to have this super spy-hub/embassy in London.
Separ0 on
If the UK was smart they would put a bug in every pot plant and light switch in the place.
Radiant_Pudding5133 on
Trump’s going to have a right bee in his bonnet about this
tbh i think i’d welcome the chinese embassy and close down the american one right now.
phangtom on
It’s funny how the people against the embassy love talking about China being a global threat to democracy whilst being completely silent on our allies, USA and Israel going on a war path unchecked throughout the world and staging coups to destabilise countries to steal their resources.
Whilst if we’re talking spying/hacking, you have as much to fear if not more from both countries than China if you don’t obey them.
In the end, make no mistake every country is spying/hacking each other. A big building isn’t exactly the crux of it all
Glass-Amphibian-3943 on
We should be looking to be critically neutral with China and build strong trading relationships after America has yet again shown its true colours. I expect every state to spy on each other but this is China not Russia – I don’t see them as a direct threat
Left_Tie1390 on
It’s unfortunate that Trump has made closer cooperation with China even more necessary, given China’s role in pushing anti-Western propaganda via TikTok, its suppression of dissidents abroad, and the way it has squeezed Hong Kong and will likely squeeze Taiwan next. Europe will be even less inclined to lift a finger for Taiwan if we become more dependent on China.
Not to mention, China is helping Russia brutalize Ukraine.
Logic-DL on
Will they get to grab people off the street that get within a metre of the gate with this mega embassy too?
Razzler1973 on
There seems to be a lot of
*They’re not trying to take over or influence things so no problem and ‘everyone spies anyway’*
History is littered with people someone thought was friends turning out to not be that great down the line. People helped into power turning out to not be great – if there’s one thing we can trust in geopolitics is noting will change from whatever is happening right this second, amirite
Let’s hope China stay our fwends forever and ever then and we all slide to work on a rainbow and they never leverage us or anything or put pressure on us for anything they want
Some people want to ‘disagree’ with the prevailing thought so much they’ll excuse anything
Fancy-Prompt-7118 on
This government needs some serious investigation. They’re intentionally trying to destroy this country.
disordered-attic-2 on
Jonathan Powell and Hermer are really nailing their roll over for China strategy. Giving away Chagos and the Embassy are the only two things Starmer has stood by.
xithebun on
Condolences for my fellow Hong Kong political refugees who thought UK would be safe. I guess I should be preparing for their funerals.
grumpsaboy on
This, spying case and Chargos deal, China better be giving the UK one hell of a lump some investment in return for all of this
ItsRevan on
People on here really seem to lack critical thinking skills…
If anyone actually believes that MI5 signed off on this without covertly addressing the cable problem then I worry about the intelligence of the average voter.
Spying is a reality of geopolitics that all parties involved are aware of and much of the public messaging from both governments on this is theatre. If there was actually a threat from this Embassy it wouldn’t be approved
oh_no3000 on
Including the basement right next to the fibre-optic lines to canary wharf?
Mister_V3 on
Since it’s so close to Tower of London. We should name it Tower of Beijing.
Practical-Purchase-9 on
Can’t we just protect the cables a bit better?
I honestly think there’s been a lot of bullshit and noise around this matter, but if there were genuine concerns something would have been done. Or maybe it has. Or it’s a smokescreen for something else. What I absolutely don’t believe that we need to worry China will be digging a hole in the basement to tap the wires nearby.
Nerdy_Finch on
maybe i’m naive but honestly i’m fine with this compared to the our current “allies” over in the land of guns
Familiar-Woodpecker5 on
Let’s ally up with China and defeat the orange one!
GiftedGeordie on
Considering Starmer’s increasingly authoritarianism, maybe he’s looking to the CCP for pointers about a Internet ‘Great Firewall’ like China has? Or he’s looking to increase the surveillance of the general population?
At least we’ll know where to look if Chinese people in England that have been critical of the CCP end up ‘disappearing’. Keir’s nothing but a fucking coward.
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It might be short-sighted or naive of me but I’m not even that fussed. All countries spy, China spies now out of their current embassy, as do we over there.
Frankly, they’re not openly trying to push for a complete regime change here unlike our ‘special’ ally and their tech barons, who I honestly believe to be a far bigger danger to us and Europe.
Plenty of fat brown envelopes passed around London for that to happen.
It was inevitable. I cannot honestly believe that MI5 has not set up countermeasures in place.
At this point I am more worried about the US presence in the UK, but that’s another story…
Honestly, even if this is completely organic to current events, I’m very happy that this has been done in spite of the US’s actions recently. Especially funny as Mike Johnson’s in town.
So now all their spies will be in one place rather than spread out across several buildings in London. Struggling to see what the big deal is here.
I sure hope Labour told China to ease off the endless hacking of British-based companies if they want to have this super spy-hub/embassy in London.
If the UK was smart they would put a bug in every pot plant and light switch in the place.
Trump’s going to have a right bee in his bonnet about this
Security concerns aside, it’s gonna look gorgeous isn’t it!
tbh i think i’d welcome the chinese embassy and close down the american one right now.
It’s funny how the people against the embassy love talking about China being a global threat to democracy whilst being completely silent on our allies, USA and Israel going on a war path unchecked throughout the world and staging coups to destabilise countries to steal their resources.
Whilst if we’re talking spying/hacking, you have as much to fear if not more from both countries than China if you don’t obey them.
In the end, make no mistake every country is spying/hacking each other. A big building isn’t exactly the crux of it all
We should be looking to be critically neutral with China and build strong trading relationships after America has yet again shown its true colours. I expect every state to spy on each other but this is China not Russia – I don’t see them as a direct threat
It’s unfortunate that Trump has made closer cooperation with China even more necessary, given China’s role in pushing anti-Western propaganda via TikTok, its suppression of dissidents abroad, and the way it has squeezed Hong Kong and will likely squeeze Taiwan next. Europe will be even less inclined to lift a finger for Taiwan if we become more dependent on China.
Not to mention, China is helping Russia brutalize Ukraine.
Will they get to grab people off the street that get within a metre of the gate with this mega embassy too?
There seems to be a lot of
*They’re not trying to take over or influence things so no problem and ‘everyone spies anyway’*
History is littered with people someone thought was friends turning out to not be that great down the line. People helped into power turning out to not be great – if there’s one thing we can trust in geopolitics is noting will change from whatever is happening right this second, amirite
Let’s hope China stay our fwends forever and ever then and we all slide to work on a rainbow and they never leverage us or anything or put pressure on us for anything they want
Some people want to ‘disagree’ with the prevailing thought so much they’ll excuse anything
This government needs some serious investigation. They’re intentionally trying to destroy this country.
Jonathan Powell and Hermer are really nailing their roll over for China strategy. Giving away Chagos and the Embassy are the only two things Starmer has stood by.
Condolences for my fellow Hong Kong political refugees who thought UK would be safe. I guess I should be preparing for their funerals.
This, spying case and Chargos deal, China better be giving the UK one hell of a lump some investment in return for all of this
People on here really seem to lack critical thinking skills…
If anyone actually believes that MI5 signed off on this without covertly addressing the cable problem then I worry about the intelligence of the average voter.
Spying is a reality of geopolitics that all parties involved are aware of and much of the public messaging from both governments on this is theatre. If there was actually a threat from this Embassy it wouldn’t be approved
Including the basement right next to the fibre-optic lines to canary wharf?
Since it’s so close to Tower of London. We should name it Tower of Beijing.
Can’t we just protect the cables a bit better?
I honestly think there’s been a lot of bullshit and noise around this matter, but if there were genuine concerns something would have been done. Or maybe it has. Or it’s a smokescreen for something else. What I absolutely don’t believe that we need to worry China will be digging a hole in the basement to tap the wires nearby.
maybe i’m naive but honestly i’m fine with this compared to the our current “allies” over in the land of guns
Let’s ally up with China and defeat the orange one!
Considering Starmer’s increasingly authoritarianism, maybe he’s looking to the CCP for pointers about a Internet ‘Great Firewall’ like China has? Or he’s looking to increase the surveillance of the general population?
At least we’ll know where to look if Chinese people in England that have been critical of the CCP end up ‘disappearing’. Keir’s nothing but a fucking coward.