So Carney and Starmer are both going to China…well done Donald
BobMonkhaus on
“Hi, we did what you’ve wanted since 2018 and approved your embassy. Can we please have some crumbs?”
JackStrawWitchita on
I’m usually highly critical of Starmer but this is something I 100% endorse. This is a great way of subtly putting two fingers up to Trump, especially in light of recent events.
Professional-Sea2875 on
I presume paedoprez will fill his nappy over this and threaten more tariffs?
BenathonWrigley on
Is China any worse than the US? I don’t see a problem with opening more trade and closer relationships with them if that’s what we’re doing. The stuff about spying, as if the US aren’t doing the same thing to everyone in the U.K. and harvesting data via apps and stuff.
Scaremongering about China is overblown.
PerceptionGreat2439 on
Does this mean my sweet and sour pork with special fried rice will go down in price?
New_7688 on
PLEASE can we get them to build our railway system omfg. They’d have HS2 done within a year.
UnlikelyRabbit4648 on
Good, let’s go, they make better stuff than the Americans anyway.
KinkySouthAsian on
Good. China is actually reliable in conducting civilised business. I know people really don’t want to hear it, but it might also be time to settle up with Putin, frankly, Europe critically needs cheap energy, fk buying it expensively from America, we’re being taken for absolute fools.
Ok-Western3626 on
The usual newspapers are dusting off their “kow towing” headlines in readiness, or as those bell ends would write, “red-iness”.
Belle_TainSummer on
Well he hasn’t much choice, I’d doubt he’ll get a good deal though since the world has us over a barrel at the moment. We’re not able to “go it alone” in the current global situation, we’re a middling post-colonial nation with poor relations with our neighbours and a deeply politically divided population. We need a larger ally. So here is the problem, the choices are: the EU, The United States, or China.
The stupidity, not to mention naked xenophobia and racism, of Brexit wrecked our relationship with Europe.
Starmer was betting the farm on getting a Blair-Clinton/Blair-Bush relationship with the United States, but…. Trump, just Trump.
That really leaves only China as the other major player in the game. We’re desperate, they know it. Maybe they’ll toss us something to save face with, but they have us over that barrel.
AlchemyAled on
Xi is cracking open champagne every ~20 minutes recently
SableSnail on
Good. If you don’t have an alternative then you have no leverage to negotiate and the ‘special relationship’ is totally one-sided.
FatFarter69 on
Trump pushing his allies into closer ties with America’s main rival is almost hilariously stupid.
Actual_Eggplant_8969 on
I’m expecting (and hoping) China will announce visa free travel for British citizens after this meeting like they did for Canada last week.
Caveman1214 on
I’d prefer china over the US.
Long term china isn’t a good idea but it’s better overall to move on from America
klydefrog89 on
We can’t complain about China and then buy a truck load of made in China products per household per year.
We have a working relationship with them and maybe we should distance ourselves from them and their economy going forward but we are a long way away from totally cutting off Chinese products
Kreature on
Holy fuck this comment section is filled with Pro China bots.
maritimelight on
How many of these comments are Chinese agents doing pro-China PR, or just idiots who have been conned by said PR? The vast majority of academic fraud and IP theft comes from China, and has for decades. Even with its changes under Trump, the US has nothing resembling the Great Firewall or limitations on free speech China has. This goes on and on. You’re fucking idiots if you actually think empowering China in any way is an intelligent foreign policy. If China becomes the next hegemon, you will look back on even Trump’s America with nostalgia
DRMK2876 on
China is far from a perfect partner, but China hasn’t helped Israel bomb 5 different countries in the last 2 years, China hasnt hit countries with ridiculous tariffs, China isn’t alienating allies, China isn’t threatening world war 3. The UK has to do what’s best for itself, not keep the orange buffoon placated.
TomatoLess229 on
Starmer approving that ridiculous embassy to butter up China in advance is shameful.
lupinle1 on
Not sure if Trump is a Russian asset or a Chinese asset.
Sea_Pomegranate8229 on
Excellent move. We live in a global trade world. Let us go to where people want to trade.
primax1uk on
Funny how China is rapidly taking the place of the US in the new world order, just by doing nothing.
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake” – some Chinese guy who was good at war or something.
Eastern_Frosting126 on
China first and foremost is about business. Aiming to become the biggest superpower via business and alliances. Political stuff is secondary. They don’t interfere with other countries politically and expect others do to the same.
Comments about China will invade Taiwan etc at any given moment is false. It’s just talk and scaremongerimg by the US. There is no need for China to ‘reclaim’ that land ass it doesn’t make business sense in comparison to the political and monetary cost.
Not like the US who has invaded another country on a whim in the name of “providing democracy to the people of Venezuela’ whilst your president openly say it’s “all about the oil”, and now playing games, setting up MILITARY assets close to another stretch of land belonging to a so called ally.
Realise what this president is allowing ICE agents to do ON US soil to US citizens and you know he cannot be trusted at all.
PurpleSpark8 on
Please start making our own things and not getting dependent on another country, again
Correct_Leader_3256 on
It’s a smart move to strengthen business ties while quietly asserting some diplomatic independence.
Aggresive_HeadPats on
Good stuff. Show the orange toddler that the world doesn’t revolve around him and his ever expanding piece of land.
NathanDavie on
Our future lies with China and Europe.
The Americans have burned close to a century of soft power progress in the space of a year.
Illustrious-Emu7669 on
Dictators do tend to attract dictators. Maybe Putin will show up for a cuppa and biccy ey
mallardtheduck on
So which British business are we selling to China this time?
ermCaz on
Politics really is clown fiesta.. you have trade deals happening with China, then in the next breath MP’s in parliament saying their new Embassy is a threat.
StupidKameena on
I think we need to appreciate the comments section it’s a massive shitshow and why I hate interacting with UK subreddits lmao
Thandoscovia on
Kinda fortunate that the London embassy has been approved!
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So Carney and Starmer are both going to China…well done Donald
“Hi, we did what you’ve wanted since 2018 and approved your embassy. Can we please have some crumbs?”
I’m usually highly critical of Starmer but this is something I 100% endorse. This is a great way of subtly putting two fingers up to Trump, especially in light of recent events.
I presume paedoprez will fill his nappy over this and threaten more tariffs?
Is China any worse than the US? I don’t see a problem with opening more trade and closer relationships with them if that’s what we’re doing. The stuff about spying, as if the US aren’t doing the same thing to everyone in the U.K. and harvesting data via apps and stuff.
Scaremongering about China is overblown.
Does this mean my sweet and sour pork with special fried rice will go down in price?
PLEASE can we get them to build our railway system omfg. They’d have HS2 done within a year.
Good, let’s go, they make better stuff than the Americans anyway.
Good. China is actually reliable in conducting civilised business. I know people really don’t want to hear it, but it might also be time to settle up with Putin, frankly, Europe critically needs cheap energy, fk buying it expensively from America, we’re being taken for absolute fools.
The usual newspapers are dusting off their “kow towing” headlines in readiness, or as those bell ends would write, “red-iness”.
Well he hasn’t much choice, I’d doubt he’ll get a good deal though since the world has us over a barrel at the moment. We’re not able to “go it alone” in the current global situation, we’re a middling post-colonial nation with poor relations with our neighbours and a deeply politically divided population. We need a larger ally. So here is the problem, the choices are: the EU, The United States, or China.
The stupidity, not to mention naked xenophobia and racism, of Brexit wrecked our relationship with Europe.
Starmer was betting the farm on getting a Blair-Clinton/Blair-Bush relationship with the United States, but…. Trump, just Trump.
That really leaves only China as the other major player in the game. We’re desperate, they know it. Maybe they’ll toss us something to save face with, but they have us over that barrel.
Xi is cracking open champagne every ~20 minutes recently
Good. If you don’t have an alternative then you have no leverage to negotiate and the ‘special relationship’ is totally one-sided.
Trump pushing his allies into closer ties with America’s main rival is almost hilariously stupid.
I’m expecting (and hoping) China will announce visa free travel for British citizens after this meeting like they did for Canada last week.
I’d prefer china over the US.
Long term china isn’t a good idea but it’s better overall to move on from America
We can’t complain about China and then buy a truck load of made in China products per household per year.
We have a working relationship with them and maybe we should distance ourselves from them and their economy going forward but we are a long way away from totally cutting off Chinese products
Holy fuck this comment section is filled with Pro China bots.
How many of these comments are Chinese agents doing pro-China PR, or just idiots who have been conned by said PR? The vast majority of academic fraud and IP theft comes from China, and has for decades. Even with its changes under Trump, the US has nothing resembling the Great Firewall or limitations on free speech China has. This goes on and on. You’re fucking idiots if you actually think empowering China in any way is an intelligent foreign policy. If China becomes the next hegemon, you will look back on even Trump’s America with nostalgia
China is far from a perfect partner, but China hasn’t helped Israel bomb 5 different countries in the last 2 years, China hasnt hit countries with ridiculous tariffs, China isn’t alienating allies, China isn’t threatening world war 3. The UK has to do what’s best for itself, not keep the orange buffoon placated.
Starmer approving that ridiculous embassy to butter up China in advance is shameful.
Not sure if Trump is a Russian asset or a Chinese asset.
Excellent move. We live in a global trade world. Let us go to where people want to trade.
Funny how China is rapidly taking the place of the US in the new world order, just by doing nothing.
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake” – some Chinese guy who was good at war or something.
China first and foremost is about business. Aiming to become the biggest superpower via business and alliances. Political stuff is secondary. They don’t interfere with other countries politically and expect others do to the same.
Comments about China will invade Taiwan etc at any given moment is false. It’s just talk and scaremongerimg by the US. There is no need for China to ‘reclaim’ that land ass it doesn’t make business sense in comparison to the political and monetary cost.
Not like the US who has invaded another country on a whim in the name of “providing democracy to the people of Venezuela’ whilst your president openly say it’s “all about the oil”, and now playing games, setting up MILITARY assets close to another stretch of land belonging to a so called ally.
Realise what this president is allowing ICE agents to do ON US soil to US citizens and you know he cannot be trusted at all.
Please start making our own things and not getting dependent on another country, again
It’s a smart move to strengthen business ties while quietly asserting some diplomatic independence.
Good stuff. Show the orange toddler that the world doesn’t revolve around him and his ever expanding piece of land.
Our future lies with China and Europe.
The Americans have burned close to a century of soft power progress in the space of a year.
Dictators do tend to attract dictators. Maybe Putin will show up for a cuppa and biccy ey
So which British business are we selling to China this time?
Politics really is clown fiesta.. you have trade deals happening with China, then in the next breath MP’s in parliament saying their new Embassy is a threat.
I think we need to appreciate the comments section it’s a massive shitshow and why I hate interacting with UK subreddits lmao
Kinda fortunate that the London embassy has been approved!