Personally, I would prefer to have something which works without energy and internet to avoid a situation like “I can’t show you the document because my internet provider uses O2 network and the application waits for updates.”
rdu3y6 on
Hopefully the trial fails and shows no one wants or needs digital ID.
kahnindustries on
“Digital Driving license is now live, we will be expanding it to non-drivers as well, and then we will make it mandatory for working and living in the UK”
ramakitty on
Questions of whether we need it aside, why can’t it just be in Google Wallet or Apple Wallet? Why do I need another app for it?
LordSolstice on
>When the digital wallet and driving licence were announced, private sector digital identity providers raised concerns that the app would compete directly with their offerings, especially around age-verification services. Subsequent meetings with government ministers helped to allay those concerns, and GDS has confirmed that the digital driving licence will be opened up to approved third-party digital ID apps as a means of identity verification.
I’m against digital ID for multiple reasons. But this little quote is just class.
They’re going to hamstring a government service and purposely make it less useful than it could be, just so that a few middlemen won’t go out of business.
GG.
HoodedArcher64 on
This is so much better than the compulsory digital ID. Fully optional and very convenient as my physical driving license is the only reason I still have to carry a wallet with me. As someone who gets IDd at pubs and clubs it would mean neither me or my friends would have to worry about forgetting ID. I’m not sure why people here are against it as it is optional and will not replace physical driving licenses. Many countries (including states in the US) have carried it out successfully.
Owzwills on
Our government should probably not be digitizing all of our info that. Just makes the whole society at risk if network outages caused by an external force or even something like a Solar flair. Its kinda common sense. But after reading How Westminster works, im very certain the SPADs who are pushing this dont have any.
Livelih00d on
Going to be real fun when you can’t show the police your driver’s license because your phone is dead and you get fined.
Clamps55555 on
How much do we have to pay for it and how often do we need to renew it?
Boundish91 on
We have this in Norway, but can also get a physical one.
bairn1990 on
Both Google and Apple wallets support digital IDs but they’ve decided to go off and create a separate app for it. Both wallets store the ID locally and encrypted.
I know who’s devs I trust more to create a seamless, secure and easy to use UX. IIRC this app shares data with Experian for fraud checks. But who knows what agreements they could sign up to in future.
Just add the damn thing to the phones wallet and let me show that the vanishingly few times I ever get asked for ID now
IN-DI-SKU-TA-BELT on
We have these in Denmark, we also have a digital version of our national health cards, but the introduction have been without any issues.
Can’t tell you much more, I stick to my physical copy. I don’t think it should be battery operated.
HuggyMonster69 on
Huh. Will they fix the DVLA online portal first then?
lonesome_okapi_314 on
What will be interesting is their use for proving you’re over 18 in bars and pubs. Standard practice is to refuse anything on a phone as they can be doctored, I’m going to be flummoxed if someone tells me it’s their official driving licence app
MrKronz on
This government are really keen on wasting money on things we don’t need.
MCKALISTAIR on
Looking forward to this, personally far prefer everything on my phone that having physical things
Dapper_Otters on
Fine by me. There’s a growing number of people like me that hardly take their wallets out with them anymore.
SoggyWotsits on
There it is in the title, licence with a c. Countless comments spelling it the American way though!
drproc90 on
this already exists. the post office app has verified passport and driving license options
TheCharalampos on
In Greece they give you a plastic card and a digital equivelant. Makes sense
Significant-Leek8483 on
Yes, this is precisely what we need. Not a new digital ID.
bars_and_plates on
There is literally nothing wrong with the photocard.
Sometimes I get the feeling that UK gov just has to do something for the sake of it. I don’t even think it’s malicious, it’s just like a kind of job justification thing, we can’t just have something that works and leave it alone because someone’s job is to come up with new things.
The last time I went on holiday with a mate they had issues on return because the digital system to verify residency was broken and we were starting to become stressed about missing the flight. The previous system of having a card was fine, the government is checking it on the other end on entry anyway.
Yes, right now they might say – oh it’s a trial, we are not getting rid of the photocard. Of course they will say that, but then in N years time it will be – ah yeah, it costs a lot to send things now because we privatised the postal service, and we contract making the cards and that’s expensive, and anyway we already have the digital system so it’ll save money, and there you are, the photocard is gone not via some malicious act but just via slow creep.
Yes, kids can buy 0% carlsberg, no, it’s not a problem. Yes, some teacher did some crime, it will probably happen again incredibly rarely, no, we don’t need CCTV in every classroom. Yeah, someone got run over at 30mph, someone will get run over at 20mph and at 10, in fact people sometimes walk into each other, we don’t need to continually ratchet speed limits down forever. Etc.
I do feel a bit “old man shouts at clouds” but it’s like, come on, the world worked before, we don’t need more rules. The issues that the vast majority of people face are solved by enforcing the existing rules properly… or in some places even removing rules that just make everything harder and more annoying for the sake of some trivial edge case that 99% of people are unaffected by.
Impressive-Bird-6085 on
I’ve little to no interest in a digital driving license, thanks!!
psilosilence on
Great, let’s give foreign actors the power to completely nullify an election by sabotaging a phone network! Really thinking outside the box on this one aren’t we. Christ I love the clever cookies in Westminster and their 4D chess skills /s
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Personally, I would prefer to have something which works without energy and internet to avoid a situation like “I can’t show you the document because my internet provider uses O2 network and the application waits for updates.”
Hopefully the trial fails and shows no one wants or needs digital ID.
“Digital Driving license is now live, we will be expanding it to non-drivers as well, and then we will make it mandatory for working and living in the UK”
Questions of whether we need it aside, why can’t it just be in Google Wallet or Apple Wallet? Why do I need another app for it?
>When the digital wallet and driving licence were announced, private sector digital identity providers raised concerns that the app would compete directly with their offerings, especially around age-verification services. Subsequent meetings with government ministers helped to allay those concerns, and GDS has confirmed that the digital driving licence will be opened up to approved third-party digital ID apps as a means of identity verification.
I’m against digital ID for multiple reasons. But this little quote is just class.
They’re going to hamstring a government service and purposely make it less useful than it could be, just so that a few middlemen won’t go out of business.
GG.
This is so much better than the compulsory digital ID. Fully optional and very convenient as my physical driving license is the only reason I still have to carry a wallet with me. As someone who gets IDd at pubs and clubs it would mean neither me or my friends would have to worry about forgetting ID. I’m not sure why people here are against it as it is optional and will not replace physical driving licenses. Many countries (including states in the US) have carried it out successfully.
Our government should probably not be digitizing all of our info that. Just makes the whole society at risk if network outages caused by an external force or even something like a Solar flair. Its kinda common sense. But after reading How Westminster works, im very certain the SPADs who are pushing this dont have any.
Going to be real fun when you can’t show the police your driver’s license because your phone is dead and you get fined.
How much do we have to pay for it and how often do we need to renew it?
We have this in Norway, but can also get a physical one.
Both Google and Apple wallets support digital IDs but they’ve decided to go off and create a separate app for it. Both wallets store the ID locally and encrypted.
I know who’s devs I trust more to create a seamless, secure and easy to use UX. IIRC this app shares data with Experian for fraud checks. But who knows what agreements they could sign up to in future.
Just add the damn thing to the phones wallet and let me show that the vanishingly few times I ever get asked for ID now
We have these in Denmark, we also have a digital version of our national health cards, but the introduction have been without any issues.
Can’t tell you much more, I stick to my physical copy. I don’t think it should be battery operated.
Huh. Will they fix the DVLA online portal first then?
What will be interesting is their use for proving you’re over 18 in bars and pubs. Standard practice is to refuse anything on a phone as they can be doctored, I’m going to be flummoxed if someone tells me it’s their official driving licence app
This government are really keen on wasting money on things we don’t need.
Looking forward to this, personally far prefer everything on my phone that having physical things
Fine by me. There’s a growing number of people like me that hardly take their wallets out with them anymore.
There it is in the title, licence with a c. Countless comments spelling it the American way though!
this already exists. the post office app has verified passport and driving license options
In Greece they give you a plastic card and a digital equivelant. Makes sense
Yes, this is precisely what we need. Not a new digital ID.
There is literally nothing wrong with the photocard.
Sometimes I get the feeling that UK gov just has to do something for the sake of it. I don’t even think it’s malicious, it’s just like a kind of job justification thing, we can’t just have something that works and leave it alone because someone’s job is to come up with new things.
The last time I went on holiday with a mate they had issues on return because the digital system to verify residency was broken and we were starting to become stressed about missing the flight. The previous system of having a card was fine, the government is checking it on the other end on entry anyway.
Yes, right now they might say – oh it’s a trial, we are not getting rid of the photocard. Of course they will say that, but then in N years time it will be – ah yeah, it costs a lot to send things now because we privatised the postal service, and we contract making the cards and that’s expensive, and anyway we already have the digital system so it’ll save money, and there you are, the photocard is gone not via some malicious act but just via slow creep.
Yes, kids can buy 0% carlsberg, no, it’s not a problem. Yes, some teacher did some crime, it will probably happen again incredibly rarely, no, we don’t need CCTV in every classroom. Yeah, someone got run over at 30mph, someone will get run over at 20mph and at 10, in fact people sometimes walk into each other, we don’t need to continually ratchet speed limits down forever. Etc.
I do feel a bit “old man shouts at clouds” but it’s like, come on, the world worked before, we don’t need more rules. The issues that the vast majority of people face are solved by enforcing the existing rules properly… or in some places even removing rules that just make everything harder and more annoying for the sake of some trivial edge case that 99% of people are unaffected by.
I’ve little to no interest in a digital driving license, thanks!!
Great, let’s give foreign actors the power to completely nullify an election by sabotaging a phone network! Really thinking outside the box on this one aren’t we. Christ I love the clever cookies in Westminster and their 4D chess skills /s