… Why? These people have no actual hardline beliefs.
Travelerdude on
Jon highlights the obvious, but does it with panache.
Prize_Proof5332 on
The “don’t tread on me” crowd are staunch defenders of the first and second amendments…when it suits them.
FreshestFlyest on
Republicans were in favor of gun regulation when black people started arming ourselves, they’ll be on favor of it again when the percentage of left wing protests that arm themselves keeps rising
raisinghellwithtrees on
Idk, I think this may be what pushes my Qanon dad out of maga. He eats that shit for breakfast but he loves his guns most of all and is fierce about 2A. I know there’s a twilight zone level dismissal of 2A by talking heads on social media but actual rednecks may care to differ.
Competitive-Yak-3785 on
“Look, I wasn’t shocked when you guys gave up the 1st amendment, and the 4th amendment, and the 10th amendment, and the 14th amendment, but the 2nd??? Isn’t that kind of the load bearing wall??” Perfect.
HowardBunnyColvin on
Aren’t republicans supposed to staunchly defend the 2nd amendment? When did they become such cowards?
AINonsense on
> MAGA’s Sudden Hatred for Guns
Only the Sig Sauer P320.
They’re all running around with their hair on fire shouting, “unintended discharge,” and blaming either the mamnufacturer or the gun.
The same people who told me, “Guns don’t kill people. Only people kill people.”
NewMidwest on
You can’t understand Republicans unless you understand that first and foremost, they want different laws to apply to them than plain old Americans.
Treestwigs on
They don’t just hate the libs, lgtbq, immigrants, and minorities, they hate democracy. It’s a coup, it’s always been a coup.
bEErgrEMlin12 on
But it’s their love of convenient magical thinking and logical fallacies that really matters.
dover_oxide on
You’re talking about a group that claimed ” you can take their gun from their cold dead hands” for decades, underplayed child death tragedies, mass shootings and backed murders to protect the 2A but because an orange con man shows up they drop those guns like a hot potato. I’m honestly shocked with how fast they abandoned this.
NotOK1955 on
MAGA: “Guns for me, not for thee”.
Same BS hypocrisy from the far right.
LeOmeletteDuFrommage on
If it happened to a presumed liberal, then they cheer it on. These people operate with less than half a brain cell.
ButterMyPancakesPlz on
Guns bad when defending against fascists… Guns good when there’s mass casualties of kids in a school.
Tony_Cheese_ on
Why can’t our politicians be as smart as Jon?
justflushit on
They told us entire school rooms full of dead children was the price we had to pay to have the guys to fight a tyrannical government….
Mr_Meng on
MAGA hates ‘the left’ more than they love guns. It’s as simple as that.
Also despite everything that’s happening Jon still won’t call it fascism even though The Atlantic has no problem outright saying it.
kevendo on
Stewart on the 2nd Amendment:
“Isn’t that kind of the load-bearing law of the ‘Don’t Tread On Me’ flag?”
A+, chef’s kiss.
pinewind108 on
It was always about guns for white people who thought the right way.
Ok-disaster2022 on
Dude the whole crack down on gun rights started because Ronald Reagan was scared black people owning and expressing their gun rights was a “danger to society” and it wasn’t until white people realized that would eventually infringe on their rights that they got upset.
It’s also a pretty ridiculous for DHS to fail to properly handle people with guns when each year Game Wardens across the country go alone into woods to catch poachers and write tickets for illegal hunting, confronts people who are going to be legally armed and every body walks out of the woods alive.
DocDangerClose on
I mean at this point what are republicans? They’ve screamed and seethed that their second amendment rights not be infringed. But the moment it is, they make bullshit excuses. It’s not only unpatriotic, it’s anti constitution. They have proven unapologetically that they are anti American.
pawsforbear on
It’s simple really.
Conservatives or MAGA have been propagandized to hate liberals and the left so much they will put their own principles aside.
They are entrenched and can’t lose an inch of ground to the left.
BravdoSaxon on
The complacency among boomers is not surprising. I can remember boomers during the 90’s tell me to NEVER trust the federal government and other agencies. These same group of people were pretty mum about the Patriot Act getting passed. Then these same boomers were quite upset when Obama became President and elated when Trump was elected. It was never about trusting the federal government. It was about their side winning, being a hypocrite, and lying to children.
yellowjackethokie on
If Donald Trump came out in support of abortion tonight, by morning over half of MAGA would support it as well. This is because they have no ironclad beliefs…it’s a cult of supporting and regurgitating whatever deer leader says as gospel.
grimatonguewyrm on
Armed protestors enter Kentucky state capital, Feb, 2020:
Just a complete spit in the face and erasure of Philando Castile. A brown gun owner who did everything right and was still executed by cop in his car with his wife and daughter in the backseat as cops refused to allow him to be treated. All the way back in 2016.
So tired of Americans pretending like America hasn’t been like this the whole goddamn time.
monkeysknowledge on
I still think about Philando Castile. The NRA gave zero fucks about him and the militia nut jobs I know, shrugged it off.
Griffolion on
> Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
— Frank Wilhoit
To conservatives, as an opposer to ICE, Pretti was part of the out-group. He was bound by the second amendment – that is to say, the in-group were totally fine to murder him. But he was not _protected_ by the second amendment – that is to say, he had no right to defend himself from an in-group member.
Just apply Wilhoit’s law to anything conservatives do or say, and everything starts making way more sense.
Prodigalsunspot on
Say it with me now: it’s not about policy, it’s about identity. As long as you are above the brown people in the hierarchy, you are good with whatever.
They seem to think they’re the only ones that like guns en masse. When they actually see armed leftists, or the Panthers, they all of a sudden start talking about “sensible gun safety” and “common sense”.
TheDukeofArgyll on
Republicans love that we assume they aren’t hypocrites even though they prove they are over and over and over.
Umami-Ice-Cream on
Research what happened when the black panthers owned guns.
Trick_Steele on
“America doesn’t have a gun problem, America has a who’s got the gun problem.” – DL Hughley
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… Why? These people have no actual hardline beliefs.
Jon highlights the obvious, but does it with panache.
The “don’t tread on me” crowd are staunch defenders of the first and second amendments…when it suits them.
Republicans were in favor of gun regulation when black people started arming ourselves, they’ll be on favor of it again when the percentage of left wing protests that arm themselves keeps rising
Idk, I think this may be what pushes my Qanon dad out of maga. He eats that shit for breakfast but he loves his guns most of all and is fierce about 2A. I know there’s a twilight zone level dismissal of 2A by talking heads on social media but actual rednecks may care to differ.
“Look, I wasn’t shocked when you guys gave up the 1st amendment, and the 4th amendment, and the 10th amendment, and the 14th amendment, but the 2nd??? Isn’t that kind of the load bearing wall??” Perfect.
Aren’t republicans supposed to staunchly defend the 2nd amendment? When did they become such cowards?
> MAGA’s Sudden Hatred for Guns
Only the Sig Sauer P320.
They’re all running around with their hair on fire shouting, “unintended discharge,” and blaming either the mamnufacturer or the gun.
The same people who told me, “Guns don’t kill people. Only people kill people.”
You can’t understand Republicans unless you understand that first and foremost, they want different laws to apply to them than plain old Americans.
They don’t just hate the libs, lgtbq, immigrants, and minorities, they hate democracy. It’s a coup, it’s always been a coup.
But it’s their love of convenient magical thinking and logical fallacies that really matters.
You’re talking about a group that claimed ” you can take their gun from their cold dead hands” for decades, underplayed child death tragedies, mass shootings and backed murders to protect the 2A but because an orange con man shows up they drop those guns like a hot potato. I’m honestly shocked with how fast they abandoned this.
MAGA: “Guns for me, not for thee”.
Same BS hypocrisy from the far right.
If it happened to a presumed liberal, then they cheer it on. These people operate with less than half a brain cell.
Guns bad when defending against fascists… Guns good when there’s mass casualties of kids in a school.
Why can’t our politicians be as smart as Jon?
They told us entire school rooms full of dead children was the price we had to pay to have the guys to fight a tyrannical government….
MAGA hates ‘the left’ more than they love guns. It’s as simple as that.
Also despite everything that’s happening Jon still won’t call it fascism even though The Atlantic has no problem outright saying it.
Stewart on the 2nd Amendment:
“Isn’t that kind of the load-bearing law of the ‘Don’t Tread On Me’ flag?”
A+, chef’s kiss.
It was always about guns for white people who thought the right way.
Dude the whole crack down on gun rights started because Ronald Reagan was scared black people owning and expressing their gun rights was a “danger to society” and it wasn’t until white people realized that would eventually infringe on their rights that they got upset.
It’s also a pretty ridiculous for DHS to fail to properly handle people with guns when each year Game Wardens across the country go alone into woods to catch poachers and write tickets for illegal hunting, confronts people who are going to be legally armed and every body walks out of the woods alive.
I mean at this point what are republicans? They’ve screamed and seethed that their second amendment rights not be infringed. But the moment it is, they make bullshit excuses. It’s not only unpatriotic, it’s anti constitution. They have proven unapologetically that they are anti American.
It’s simple really.
Conservatives or MAGA have been propagandized to hate liberals and the left so much they will put their own principles aside.
They are entrenched and can’t lose an inch of ground to the left.
The complacency among boomers is not surprising. I can remember boomers during the 90’s tell me to NEVER trust the federal government and other agencies. These same group of people were pretty mum about the Patriot Act getting passed. Then these same boomers were quite upset when Obama became President and elated when Trump was elected. It was never about trusting the federal government. It was about their side winning, being a hypocrite, and lying to children.
If Donald Trump came out in support of abortion tonight, by morning over half of MAGA would support it as well. This is because they have no ironclad beliefs…it’s a cult of supporting and regurgitating whatever deer leader says as gospel.
Armed protestors enter Kentucky state capital, Feb, 2020:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/fully-armed-rally-goers-enter-kentuckys-capitol-building-with-zero-resistance-946606/
Armed citizens at Michigan state capital, April, 2020:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/michigan-bans-open-carry-guns-statehouse/story?id=75181901
Armed activists outside the Texas state capital, January, 2021:
https://www.kut.org/politics/2021-01-17/armed-ctivists-outside-state-capitol
Armed Boogaloo Boys at Michigan state capital: October, 2020:
https://www.lansingstatejournal.com/picture-gallery/news/local/2020/10/17/boogaloo-bois-rally-capitol/3696688001/
Armed protestors at Virginia state capital, January, 2021:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/18/us/inauguration-protests-vigilant
Armed protestors at Utah state capital, February, 2021:
https://www.axios.com/2021/02/21/guns-statehouses-spotlight-armed-protests
Just a complete spit in the face and erasure of Philando Castile. A brown gun owner who did everything right and was still executed by cop in his car with his wife and daughter in the backseat as cops refused to allow him to be treated. All the way back in 2016.
So tired of Americans pretending like America hasn’t been like this the whole goddamn time.
I still think about Philando Castile. The NRA gave zero fucks about him and the militia nut jobs I know, shrugged it off.
> Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
— Frank Wilhoit
To conservatives, as an opposer to ICE, Pretti was part of the out-group. He was bound by the second amendment – that is to say, the in-group were totally fine to murder him. But he was not _protected_ by the second amendment – that is to say, he had no right to defend himself from an in-group member.
Just apply Wilhoit’s law to anything conservatives do or say, and everything starts making way more sense.
Say it with me now: it’s not about policy, it’s about identity. As long as you are above the brown people in the hierarchy, you are good with whatever.
It’s completely unsurprising. Conservatives want free unlimited guns everywhere, until someone starts shooting back.
They seem to think they’re the only ones that like guns en masse. When they actually see armed leftists, or the Panthers, they all of a sudden start talking about “sensible gun safety” and “common sense”.
Republicans love that we assume they aren’t hypocrites even though they prove they are over and over and over.
Research what happened when the black panthers owned guns.
“America doesn’t have a gun problem, America has a who’s got the gun problem.” – DL Hughley