No one ever proposed a **merger**. What sort of reporting is this?
Expensive-Horse5538 on
TBH I’m not surprised – I could not see an arrangement between two parties on the opposite sides of the political spectrum lasting for very long before it decended into chaos.
banramarama2 on
Well this will upset the resident greens party hater.
What will he post about now?
HotPersimessage62 on
The damage has already been spectacularly done already and according to a new Canberra Times article published just now, the Greens have essentially established a damage control team to consider the ramifications of the talks.
This is going to give so much fresh ammunition for Labor for every state, territory and federal election for the next 15 years.
I predict that the Greens rank-and-file will spill Rattenbury in the next few weeks/months and someone else will take over the ACT Greens and reform a coalition agreement with ACT Labor. Rattenbury will probably resign from the parliament and be replaced by Vasarotti on a countback. That’s probably the best way to contain the huge amount of damage done on the Greens brand nationally.
Not sure if the Liberals’ right faction will roll Parton.
It’s a shame the ACT doesn’t get polled. The impact of this on the federal Greens’ polling is yet to be seen, but Greens voters will easily be reminded of this nationwide with flyers and corflutes about this in 2028.
authaus0 on
Genuinely don’t understand the anger from fellow Greens members about this. It’s not like the Greens are betraying their own principles, they’re trying to find common ground. And they need to do this to keep Labor in check.Â
The mistake in the 2025 election was the “Keep Dutton out, force Labor to act” line. Every time I said it I thought this is not a compelling narrative, people will just vote Labor. And that’s what happened.Â
The Greens need to stand on their own two feet and remind everyone else they are not a parasite on the left of Labor, they are their own party that would like to someday be a party of government. If Labor can take their support for granted, Labor becomes arrogant and will crucify the Greens for asking for anything better.Â
I was so happy with how the Greens handled Tasmania. They were open minded and asked both majors to negotiate. Liberals proactively offered genuinely progressive concessions, while Labor gave them nothing and then whined about not getting Greens support. That was the humbling that Labor needed, and if the same thing happens in ACT then it will lead to better outcomes and policies from both Labor and the Libs.Â
DunceCodex on
Greens have a history of selling out their principles to side with the Conservatives. Party that stands for nothing.
Perfect-Werewolf-102 on
Yeah I expected the Greens members to reject the… Thing that was in no way a merger, ABC
Bob is right, they should be prepared to act as an independent force. Even Barr said that was fair and he talks to Parton too
That said, from an electoral perspective this was quite dumb and it’s already going to hurt them while they haven’t gotten much out of it
hildred123 on
Given that the ACT liberals seem more sensible and centrist than their federal colleagues, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the Greens supporting a few sensible policies here and there but formal support and even supply and confidence really should be ruled out.Â
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No one ever proposed a **merger**. What sort of reporting is this?
TBH I’m not surprised – I could not see an arrangement between two parties on the opposite sides of the political spectrum lasting for very long before it decended into chaos.
Well this will upset the resident greens party hater.
What will he post about now?
The damage has already been spectacularly done already and according to a new Canberra Times article published just now, the Greens have essentially established a damage control team to consider the ramifications of the talks.
This is going to give so much fresh ammunition for Labor for every state, territory and federal election for the next 15 years.
I predict that the Greens rank-and-file will spill Rattenbury in the next few weeks/months and someone else will take over the ACT Greens and reform a coalition agreement with ACT Labor. Rattenbury will probably resign from the parliament and be replaced by Vasarotti on a countback. That’s probably the best way to contain the huge amount of damage done on the Greens brand nationally.
Not sure if the Liberals’ right faction will roll Parton.
It’s a shame the ACT doesn’t get polled. The impact of this on the federal Greens’ polling is yet to be seen, but Greens voters will easily be reminded of this nationwide with flyers and corflutes about this in 2028.
Genuinely don’t understand the anger from fellow Greens members about this. It’s not like the Greens are betraying their own principles, they’re trying to find common ground. And they need to do this to keep Labor in check.Â
The mistake in the 2025 election was the “Keep Dutton out, force Labor to act” line. Every time I said it I thought this is not a compelling narrative, people will just vote Labor. And that’s what happened.Â
The Greens need to stand on their own two feet and remind everyone else they are not a parasite on the left of Labor, they are their own party that would like to someday be a party of government. If Labor can take their support for granted, Labor becomes arrogant and will crucify the Greens for asking for anything better.Â
I was so happy with how the Greens handled Tasmania. They were open minded and asked both majors to negotiate. Liberals proactively offered genuinely progressive concessions, while Labor gave them nothing and then whined about not getting Greens support. That was the humbling that Labor needed, and if the same thing happens in ACT then it will lead to better outcomes and policies from both Labor and the Libs.Â
Greens have a history of selling out their principles to side with the Conservatives. Party that stands for nothing.
Yeah I expected the Greens members to reject the… Thing that was in no way a merger, ABC
Bob is right, they should be prepared to act as an independent force. Even Barr said that was fair and he talks to Parton too
That said, from an electoral perspective this was quite dumb and it’s already going to hurt them while they haven’t gotten much out of it
Given that the ACT liberals seem more sensible and centrist than their federal colleagues, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the Greens supporting a few sensible policies here and there but formal support and even supply and confidence really should be ruled out.Â