In an interview with the tv program Quarta Repubblica, on the Rete 4 tv channel, the Italian president of the Council of Ministers Giorgia Meloni has excluded any Italian involvement in the military operations to reopen the strait of Hormuz, which Iran has effectively blocked. Before the start of the War in the Middle East, the Hormuz strait saw the passage of ships coming to and from the Persian Gulf, which among other things carried one fifth of all the oil and gas sold in the World. The blockade of naval traffic in the strait is causing steep increases in the price of energy causing enormous effects on the world economy.
For what concerns the Italian involvement in Hormuz, Meloni was referring to the plan proposed by president of the United States, Donald Trump, to form an international coalition to escort the ships transiting the strait, in order to restart the naval traffic and thus bring down the price of oil and gas. Trump hasn’t given many details on how exactly he plans to reopen the strait, and the two main options at his disposal [naval intervention and troop landings] are both quite dangerous.
Meloni has said that intervening in the strait of Hormuz with the United States “Would mean making a step forward towards getting involved” in the war in the Middle East. In doing so she aligned herself with many other countries, including those of the European Union: until now no government has made a commitment to send warships in the strait of Hormuz, as demanded by Trump. “We will remember this”, said Trump to the press Monday, without elaborating further but implying that there would be consequences for the countries that wouldn’t help him.
Meloni’s position isn’t surprising, given that it’s perfectly in line with the one held by the European Union and given that her government has so far excluded any involvement in the war in the Middle East. It’s nonetheless noticeable that Meloni has expressed so openly her rejection of Trump’s plan, since Meloni has always presented herself as the main mediator between Europe and the US president. In the last few months though her approach towards Trump has become much more ambivalent, given his unpopularity in Italy, his fickleness and his hostile approach towards the European Union.
Meloni has also added that she would rather strengthen the Aspides naval mission, of which Italy is one of the main contributors. Aspides is a naval deployment created by the European Union in January of 2024 in order to protect the ships transiting through the Red Sea from the attacks of the Yemeni Houthi militias allied with Iran. Aspides in theory can also conduct operations in the Strait of Hormuz, although strictly only for the defence of the transiting ships. But for now Aspides hasn’t, and will not be, extended to cover Hormuz as well, as reiterated by Meloni, who in the interview has stressed that the mission is, and will remain, active only in the Red Sea.
wanderer_aj on
What if china pulls off a US on Taiwan
ExplosivePancake9 on
I mean didnt we “stay off the front line” as the orange guy said? The U.S seems ok with giving insults left and right to its allies, and the american general population seems ok with it, so as they say, chi semina vento…
Opinius_Maximus on
…but we can’t Mr Trumpy, because you said that we , europeans , are weak …
Bob1Carol2 on
Bravo!!!!!
BannedAgain12341 on
Non-alignment is beneficial these days.
Capital-Pineapple-19 on
You can always expect nothing from Southern Europe. I am not talking about this war but I general.
Defiant-Opposite-501 on
Good for her. Sounds like she has the best interests of Italians in mind, and isn’t being led around by the nose by Netenyahu.
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le_bas_du_goulot on
Even fascists gov don’t support Trump… Maybe Orbzn will send ships !!
Few_Elephant_8410 on
Meloni is PM, not president.
W31337 on
Trump is the sucker and loser now
ImperatorDanorum on
She`s not president of Italy, she`s PM of Italy….
Canuck-overseas on
Excellent. Now every EU country should sign new deals with China.
Top-Stranger7578 on
Totally sane decision
liquidphantom on
The orange one just wants ally ships to go into the strait first to take the initial hit so he can “come to the rescue”. If a US ship goes in first and hits a mine or something manages to sneak through the defences of the ship he is toast.
TxM_2404 on
Maybe Trump’s friend Orban can send a fleet?
MartinoRs on
China and Russia are aiding Iran with the Israel/USA bullshit, any move from other countries against Iran right now would look like a straight attack at all of them and mean world war lll, i dont think Europe wants that right now, even after watching how trump treats his allies, he would backstack europe in a blink and leave them alone to deal with russia and china.
And maybe this is all he planned from the beggining, forcing a world war to fk up europe
Traveller_2099 on
Love story ends.
Status-9417 on
She’ll reverse course next week. No way that in the next few days she’ll say anything to support Trump and his illegal wars, which are extremely unpopular in Italy, across the whole political spectrum.
This weekend there is a referendum on a reform of the Italian justice system that she’s trying extremely hard to push through, which would put the judiciary under closer government oversight. This vote, that she’s spending loads of political capital on, is foreseen to be extremely tight.
Once the referendum vote is out of the way, next Tuesday, she’ll go back to being a MAGAt lapdog.
stbens on
Trump will be very unhappy, especially as he’s besotted with her,
jvo203 on
President Meloni? I thought she was a prime minister.
Confident_Taste_1888 on
America is discovering that they have no friends.
namotous on
Oh what? Suddenly Trump doesn’t wanna flex his military might anymore? Loll
SheSaidOtaku on
Trump is going through what I fear most in life… Inviting people to my housewarming but nobody turns up
SexualMetawhore on
No political leader will sign up for this shit. They do not want to take the blame.
supersimo17 on
Questo prima del referendum 🥳 vedremo dopo il referendum se cambia idea…
apachelives on
Best i can do is post an origami paper boat with the words “fuck trump” written in crayon, take it or leave it.
Drakelth on
Good! That shit stain of a national deserves nothing but our contempt and it citizens pur disdain
valeyard89 on
You can do anything in life you want to do.
Remember… you’re a Meloni.
lovemehotwife on
Good for her
Inevitable_Simple402 on
Fine, no oil for Italy then.
Zero_Squared on
Trump will be raging and looking for some way to get back at all the countries that refused to bend over. Fucking Muppet.
AdriBlancoPh1972 on
Parece que no le esta saliendo nada barata esta guerra al Naranju. Bueno que la banque el mismo, cuando ni siquiera la declaro como guerra, porque sino hubiera tenido que tener el apoyo del Congreso. Es una misión furia epica. Furia épica las de los padres de los soldados, que no entienden que hacen en un lugar y una guerra, que no era necesaria. Es todo estrategico, para tener una hegemonía en le zona, pero no contaban con los avances de los drones kamikazes y los cohetes hipersónicos, iraníes , chinos y [rusos.Es](http://rusos.Es) mas en su tremendo delirio Trump, pensó, por el mismo,porque le advirtieron que no iba a ser así, que esto iba a ser otra Venezuela, y no tienen punto de comparación. Se vienen preparando para algo asi, los iraníes desde hace décadas.Y si lider supremo antes de morir, dejo todo bien preparado, no para ganar sino para dar una guerra larga y desgastante. Una pena los civiles, que no tienen nada que ver y estan muriendo de un lado y del otro.
Stunning_Director_40 on
Opening a new front in the Middle East is the last thing anyone needs right now
One-Veterinarian-763 on
Meloni is the prime minister of italy, not president.
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In an interview with the tv program Quarta Repubblica, on the Rete 4 tv channel, the Italian president of the Council of Ministers Giorgia Meloni has excluded any Italian involvement in the military operations to reopen the strait of Hormuz, which Iran has effectively blocked. Before the start of the War in the Middle East, the Hormuz strait saw the passage of ships coming to and from the Persian Gulf, which among other things carried one fifth of all the oil and gas sold in the World. The blockade of naval traffic in the strait is causing steep increases in the price of energy causing enormous effects on the world economy.
For what concerns the Italian involvement in Hormuz, Meloni was referring to the plan proposed by president of the United States, Donald Trump, to form an international coalition to escort the ships transiting the strait, in order to restart the naval traffic and thus bring down the price of oil and gas. Trump hasn’t given many details on how exactly he plans to reopen the strait, and the two main options at his disposal [naval intervention and troop landings] are both quite dangerous.
Meloni has said that intervening in the strait of Hormuz with the United States “Would mean making a step forward towards getting involved” in the war in the Middle East. In doing so she aligned herself with many other countries, including those of the European Union: until now no government has made a commitment to send warships in the strait of Hormuz, as demanded by Trump. “We will remember this”, said Trump to the press Monday, without elaborating further but implying that there would be consequences for the countries that wouldn’t help him.
Meloni’s position isn’t surprising, given that it’s perfectly in line with the one held by the European Union and given that her government has so far excluded any involvement in the war in the Middle East. It’s nonetheless noticeable that Meloni has expressed so openly her rejection of Trump’s plan, since Meloni has always presented herself as the main mediator between Europe and the US president. In the last few months though her approach towards Trump has become much more ambivalent, given his unpopularity in Italy, his fickleness and his hostile approach towards the European Union.
Meloni has also added that she would rather strengthen the Aspides naval mission, of which Italy is one of the main contributors. Aspides is a naval deployment created by the European Union in January of 2024 in order to protect the ships transiting through the Red Sea from the attacks of the Yemeni Houthi militias allied with Iran. Aspides in theory can also conduct operations in the Strait of Hormuz, although strictly only for the defence of the transiting ships. But for now Aspides hasn’t, and will not be, extended to cover Hormuz as well, as reiterated by Meloni, who in the interview has stressed that the mission is, and will remain, active only in the Red Sea.
What if china pulls off a US on Taiwan
I mean didnt we “stay off the front line” as the orange guy said? The U.S seems ok with giving insults left and right to its allies, and the american general population seems ok with it, so as they say, chi semina vento…
…but we can’t Mr Trumpy, because you said that we , europeans , are weak …
Bravo!!!!!
Non-alignment is beneficial these days.
You can always expect nothing from Southern Europe. I am not talking about this war but I general.
Good for her. Sounds like she has the best interests of Italians in mind, and isn’t being led around by the nose by Netenyahu.
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Even fascists gov don’t support Trump… Maybe Orbzn will send ships !!
Meloni is PM, not president.
Trump is the sucker and loser now
She`s not president of Italy, she`s PM of Italy….
Excellent. Now every EU country should sign new deals with China.
Totally sane decision
The orange one just wants ally ships to go into the strait first to take the initial hit so he can “come to the rescue”. If a US ship goes in first and hits a mine or something manages to sneak through the defences of the ship he is toast.
Maybe Trump’s friend Orban can send a fleet?
China and Russia are aiding Iran with the Israel/USA bullshit, any move from other countries against Iran right now would look like a straight attack at all of them and mean world war lll, i dont think Europe wants that right now, even after watching how trump treats his allies, he would backstack europe in a blink and leave them alone to deal with russia and china.
And maybe this is all he planned from the beggining, forcing a world war to fk up europe
Love story ends.
She’ll reverse course next week. No way that in the next few days she’ll say anything to support Trump and his illegal wars, which are extremely unpopular in Italy, across the whole political spectrum.
This weekend there is a referendum on a reform of the Italian justice system that she’s trying extremely hard to push through, which would put the judiciary under closer government oversight. This vote, that she’s spending loads of political capital on, is foreseen to be extremely tight.
Once the referendum vote is out of the way, next Tuesday, she’ll go back to being a MAGAt lapdog.
Trump will be very unhappy, especially as he’s besotted with her,
President Meloni? I thought she was a prime minister.
America is discovering that they have no friends.
Oh what? Suddenly Trump doesn’t wanna flex his military might anymore? Loll
Trump is going through what I fear most in life… Inviting people to my housewarming but nobody turns up
No political leader will sign up for this shit. They do not want to take the blame.
Questo prima del referendum 🥳 vedremo dopo il referendum se cambia idea…
Best i can do is post an origami paper boat with the words “fuck trump” written in crayon, take it or leave it.
Good! That shit stain of a national deserves nothing but our contempt and it citizens pur disdain
You can do anything in life you want to do.
Remember… you’re a Meloni.
Good for her
Fine, no oil for Italy then.
Trump will be raging and looking for some way to get back at all the countries that refused to bend over. Fucking Muppet.
Parece que no le esta saliendo nada barata esta guerra al Naranju. Bueno que la banque el mismo, cuando ni siquiera la declaro como guerra, porque sino hubiera tenido que tener el apoyo del Congreso. Es una misión furia epica. Furia épica las de los padres de los soldados, que no entienden que hacen en un lugar y una guerra, que no era necesaria. Es todo estrategico, para tener una hegemonía en le zona, pero no contaban con los avances de los drones kamikazes y los cohetes hipersónicos, iraníes , chinos y [rusos.Es](http://rusos.Es) mas en su tremendo delirio Trump, pensó, por el mismo,porque le advirtieron que no iba a ser así, que esto iba a ser otra Venezuela, y no tienen punto de comparación. Se vienen preparando para algo asi, los iraníes desde hace décadas.Y si lider supremo antes de morir, dejo todo bien preparado, no para ganar sino para dar una guerra larga y desgastante. Una pena los civiles, que no tienen nada que ver y estan muriendo de un lado y del otro.
Opening a new front in the Middle East is the last thing anyone needs right now
Meloni is the prime minister of italy, not president.
Doubt the Italians have Warships..