“In modern war there is no such thing as victor and vanquished… there is only a loser, and the loser is humanity.”Â
-Unknown
Front_Promise_5991 on
Trump insists unconditional surrender?
I loved how tucker described it:
Carlson provided a controversial definition of the term: “Unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter if they want, and everyone knows that.”
Later, he said that he doesn’t think that American troops could do that.
My conclusion: too many conflicting messages from the US conservative side.
Lorenzoak on
It is always the guys hiding in highly classified and heavily fortified bunkers who are the absolute most eager to reject peace talks and fight to the very last drop of their citizens’ blood.
30yearCurse on
Going to have to have boots on the ground, ahh well, poor planning, poor outcome.
Should not have abandon the Kurds, nor turn down UKR. but poor planning.
CompetitiveOwl89 on
This guys own dad thought he was an idiot
shrike71 on
We killed most of his family. He will never stop.
Antique_Ad1518 on
No one has seen or heard the new Supreme Leader
batotit on
His father, his mother, his wife, and a few of his sons died from an unprovoked attack in their own home. Yeah, he will want peace as much as we want the next school shooting to happen in our kid’s school.
_Hubble on
Hopefully the millions of people under tyranny and no internet access, women forced to wear veils, and gay and lesbian people have freedom soon.
magicfitzpatrick on
He’s not real. Since he hasn’t appeared live on TV I assume he’s already dead.
Royal-Hunter3892 on
Iran knows a forever war is a nightmare no American president would want and Iran is making sure US remains dragged in this war for as long as possible.
Trump is seeking an exit, but also wants to claim victory. It doesn’t looks like this war will end soon .
Iran doesn’t have to win conventionally against US it just have to deny a quick , easy and clear victory to Trump.
Trump is probably going to threaten his allies with sanctions and other political coercions to rescue him from this war .He is trapped and he knows it .
IMGcertified on
ID LIKE TO HEAR BBs thoughts on this…its been awhile!
Chamrox on
Iranian leadership: We don’t care how many ~~Syrian~~ ~~Lebanese~~ ~~Palestinian~~ ~~Yemeni~~ Iranian citizens die as long as we kill 20-30 Israelis and jack up oil prices to line our pockets. We’re not going to be around when the bombing happens anyway.
HP844182 on
He could negotiate for a cushy life outside Iran somewhere but instead he’ll end up dead in a hole if he isn’t alreadyÂ
ChatamKay on
With Russian oil flowing (how stupid is Trump, serious question) Russia is incentivized to keep that war going as long as possible. They will nurse the son to health, provide intel and drones. China is no hurry to see this end either. Trump walked right into it. Allies are staying away. This is only the beginning. They won’t let Trump leave. This is an epic shit storm for Trump with no off-ramp.
3rdhouseonleft on
its easy to make those decisions when you are safely hidden away in a hospital in moscow……..
Siggy1963 on
Tough guy versus tough guy
Odd-Professor-5309 on
I doubt he’s even conscious.
CertifiedLunacy on
Peak out from your bunker and let’s see that courage homie.
ghost_n_the_shell on
Hold on – yesterday the headline was that Iran wanted to negotiate a ceasefire, but TRUMP WASN’T ready to make the deal.
Almost like he’s full of $hite.
Dopamineagonist21 on
Talking big while safely hiding in Russia
PansarPucko on
This is the same government, I would like to add, that had the Basij during the Iran-Iraq war. Members were as young as 12, and they would often just march straight into Iraqi defensive positions without support.
So why would they descalate when they still have pre-teens to throw into the grinder should the need arise?
marshalist on
The Iranian regime will do most of its diplomatic work outside of US channels because it puts the strategic initiative into non US channels. Iran wants guarantees that can only come from a consensus of interested powers.
Gh0stPeppers on
Not that I doubt it was rejected, just doubt it was the guy in a coma they just airlifted to Russia….. lol. Also in all likelihood the last guy calling the shots was killed last night.
So we will see how far they chop till that tune changes, something tells me eventually that tune will change when someone more agreeable is left alive and in charge.
Not joking, this seems to actually be the military strategy at the moment.
007meow on
Aggrieved parties love capitulating to their aggressors after they’ve killed your family.
Realistic-Nobody-750 on
Yeah didn’t they blow off his leg? It’s probably personal
Reditate on
How’s Russia right now? Pretty cold I’d imagine.
Wegwerf157534 on
And I don’t know why they would stop to. The political system in Iran is well established and a big **network** of religion, military , economics and politics. It controls who gains political power and swiftly identifies and ends opposition.
Differing from North Corea (that strongly relies on a person) or Russia (that strongly relies on benefitting elites), Irans glue is ideology.
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Suicide fetishism
Really? Why would he reject it?
Who knows…
“In modern war there is no such thing as victor and vanquished… there is only a loser, and the loser is humanity.”Â
-Unknown
Trump insists unconditional surrender?
I loved how tucker described it:
Carlson provided a controversial definition of the term: “Unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter if they want, and everyone knows that.”
Later, he said that he doesn’t think that American troops could do that.
My conclusion: too many conflicting messages from the US conservative side.
It is always the guys hiding in highly classified and heavily fortified bunkers who are the absolute most eager to reject peace talks and fight to the very last drop of their citizens’ blood.
Going to have to have boots on the ground, ahh well, poor planning, poor outcome.
Should not have abandon the Kurds, nor turn down UKR. but poor planning.
This guys own dad thought he was an idiot
We killed most of his family. He will never stop.
No one has seen or heard the new Supreme Leader
His father, his mother, his wife, and a few of his sons died from an unprovoked attack in their own home. Yeah, he will want peace as much as we want the next school shooting to happen in our kid’s school.
Hopefully the millions of people under tyranny and no internet access, women forced to wear veils, and gay and lesbian people have freedom soon.
He’s not real. Since he hasn’t appeared live on TV I assume he’s already dead.
Iran knows a forever war is a nightmare no American president would want and Iran is making sure US remains dragged in this war for as long as possible.
Trump is seeking an exit, but also wants to claim victory. It doesn’t looks like this war will end soon .
Iran doesn’t have to win conventionally against US it just have to deny a quick , easy and clear victory to Trump.
Trump is probably going to threaten his allies with sanctions and other political coercions to rescue him from this war .He is trapped and he knows it .
ID LIKE TO HEAR BBs thoughts on this…its been awhile!
Iranian leadership: We don’t care how many ~~Syrian~~ ~~Lebanese~~ ~~Palestinian~~ ~~Yemeni~~ Iranian citizens die as long as we kill 20-30 Israelis and jack up oil prices to line our pockets. We’re not going to be around when the bombing happens anyway.
He could negotiate for a cushy life outside Iran somewhere but instead he’ll end up dead in a hole if he isn’t alreadyÂ
With Russian oil flowing (how stupid is Trump, serious question) Russia is incentivized to keep that war going as long as possible. They will nurse the son to health, provide intel and drones. China is no hurry to see this end either. Trump walked right into it. Allies are staying away. This is only the beginning. They won’t let Trump leave. This is an epic shit storm for Trump with no off-ramp.
its easy to make those decisions when you are safely hidden away in a hospital in moscow……..
Tough guy versus tough guy
I doubt he’s even conscious.
Peak out from your bunker and let’s see that courage homie.
Hold on – yesterday the headline was that Iran wanted to negotiate a ceasefire, but TRUMP WASN’T ready to make the deal.
Almost like he’s full of $hite.
Talking big while safely hiding in Russia
This is the same government, I would like to add, that had the Basij during the Iran-Iraq war. Members were as young as 12, and they would often just march straight into Iraqi defensive positions without support.
So why would they descalate when they still have pre-teens to throw into the grinder should the need arise?
The Iranian regime will do most of its diplomatic work outside of US channels because it puts the strategic initiative into non US channels. Iran wants guarantees that can only come from a consensus of interested powers.
Not that I doubt it was rejected, just doubt it was the guy in a coma they just airlifted to Russia….. lol. Also in all likelihood the last guy calling the shots was killed last night.
So we will see how far they chop till that tune changes, something tells me eventually that tune will change when someone more agreeable is left alive and in charge.
Not joking, this seems to actually be the military strategy at the moment.
Aggrieved parties love capitulating to their aggressors after they’ve killed your family.
Yeah didn’t they blow off his leg? It’s probably personal
How’s Russia right now? Pretty cold I’d imagine.
And I don’t know why they would stop to. The political system in Iran is well established and a big **network** of religion, military , economics and politics. It controls who gains political power and swiftly identifies and ends opposition.
Differing from North Corea (that strongly relies on a person) or Russia (that strongly relies on benefitting elites), Irans glue is ideology.