stg these are all the same video of an ~~IRBM~~ MRBM breaking up from different angles. There’s never impact footage, there’s never an identifiable landmark, there’s been no evidence of a new cluster munition hitting the ground with dispersed explosions, and if you think it’s dispersing flares or something to mess with interceptor guidance you may be brain damaged because interceptor systems are radar guided.
Literally the UFO footage of this subreddit
*Edit:* So far as “evidence” I’ve been linked a CNN article and a traffic cam. The traffic cam shows an explosion, which is not proof of anything other than that something exploded in the road. The CNN article draws some lines over the map and points to, in one instance 5 impacts and in another instance 9 impacts over a range of 7-8 miles. The CNN article cites to no sources other than Iran’s previous use of conventional cluster weapons which *is not* what this footage shows, if this is a real weapon it is novel, a traditional cluster weapon spreads munitions over hundreds of meters, not miles.
This footage shows ~86 objects and the CNN article shows ~74 objects. If those are explosives you would expect to see more than 5-9 impact sites. If those are munitions there’s no reason for them to be glowing. I have yet to see any footage from any distance that shows one of these barrages hitting the ground, I’ve yet to see any footage of any of these barrages going over the horizon and generating anything approximating flashes from over the horizon, which would be expected if these things were landing and exploding.
Both of these are slightly different from what you would expect from an interceptor vs MRBM, the Starship exploded internally so some parts of it were accelerated forward and some backward, leading to the debris field being laterally spread out. The Columbia didn’t strictly speaking explode so much as break up, so friction is playing a significant role in spreading things out.
What these shots *do* have in common with what we’re seeing is that the debris/munitions do not have uniform sizes or speeds, although their trajectories are roughly the same which you would expect if a missile was intercepted during its terminal phase.
What we also do not see are any interceptors being fired at these things, which is exactly what you would expect to see if **the interceptor has already been fired and already destroyed the projectile**
Not to mention the fact that you wouldn’t go through the trouble of building a ballistic missile that’s exceedingly unlikely to hit/damage anything of value. Your choices are either to be fairly certain that you’ll put a 1000kg warhead within a few blocks of where you were aiming or spread, as CNN claims, 60-80 5KG munitions over 9 miles.
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Just debris burning up on decent.
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bird killers they call it
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I love how there’s still bots trying to deny these exist lol
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Here is a [show and tell video](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jKN0Ydh1luE?t=37) with a closeup of one of the submunitions from such missiles. It is said to weigh about 20 kg, only a small fraction (a few kg) of which would be the explosives.
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that is scary looking
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Do interceptors even bother with them?
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We have seen endless weapons of war, of which many were used for terror but to see something specifically designed purly for civilian targets. That is something else.
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Ya know, they do make for interesting fireworks. The sucky kind, but still. /s
#SilverLinings
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No video of impact?
Are those WP decoys?
stg these are all the same video of an ~~IRBM~~ MRBM breaking up from different angles. There’s never impact footage, there’s never an identifiable landmark, there’s been no evidence of a new cluster munition hitting the ground with dispersed explosions, and if you think it’s dispersing flares or something to mess with interceptor guidance you may be brain damaged because interceptor systems are radar guided.
Literally the UFO footage of this subreddit
*Edit:* So far as “evidence” I’ve been linked a CNN article and a traffic cam. The traffic cam shows an explosion, which is not proof of anything other than that something exploded in the road. The CNN article draws some lines over the map and points to, in one instance 5 impacts and in another instance 9 impacts over a range of 7-8 miles. The CNN article cites to no sources other than Iran’s previous use of conventional cluster weapons which *is not* what this footage shows, if this is a real weapon it is novel, a traditional cluster weapon spreads munitions over hundreds of meters, not miles.
This footage shows ~86 objects and the CNN article shows ~74 objects. If those are explosives you would expect to see more than 5-9 impact sites. If those are munitions there’s no reason for them to be glowing. I have yet to see any footage from any distance that shows one of these barrages hitting the ground, I’ve yet to see any footage of any of these barrages going over the horizon and generating anything approximating flashes from over the horizon, which would be expected if these things were landing and exploding.
This is a photo of a SpaceX Starship after suffering an internal explosion: [SpaceX’s Starship 33 explodes mid-flight creating space debris shower – Space News – News – Daily Express US](https://www.the-express.com/news/space-news/160727/spacexs-starship-33-explodes-mid-flight)
This is a photo of the Space Shuttle Columbia breaking up after heat-burnthrough: [STS-107 – Columbia Disaster – February 1, 2003 – The Black Vault](https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/sts-107-columbia-disaster-february-1-2003/)
Both of these are slightly different from what you would expect from an interceptor vs MRBM, the Starship exploded internally so some parts of it were accelerated forward and some backward, leading to the debris field being laterally spread out. The Columbia didn’t strictly speaking explode so much as break up, so friction is playing a significant role in spreading things out.
What these shots *do* have in common with what we’re seeing is that the debris/munitions do not have uniform sizes or speeds, although their trajectories are roughly the same which you would expect if a missile was intercepted during its terminal phase.
What we also do not see are any interceptors being fired at these things, which is exactly what you would expect to see if **the interceptor has already been fired and already destroyed the projectile**
Not to mention the fact that you wouldn’t go through the trouble of building a ballistic missile that’s exceedingly unlikely to hit/damage anything of value. Your choices are either to be fairly certain that you’ll put a 1000kg warhead within a few blocks of where you were aiming or spread, as CNN claims, 60-80 5KG munitions over 9 miles.
Just debris burning up on decent.
bird killers they call it
I love how there’s still bots trying to deny these exist lol
Here is a [show and tell video](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jKN0Ydh1luE?t=37) with a closeup of one of the submunitions from such missiles. It is said to weigh about 20 kg, only a small fraction (a few kg) of which would be the explosives.
that is scary looking
Do interceptors even bother with them?
We have seen endless weapons of war, of which many were used for terror but to see something specifically designed purly for civilian targets. That is something else.
Ya know, they do make for interesting fireworks. The sucky kind, but still. /s
#SilverLinings
it looks pretty cool
What are these ?
Have they been broken up or still operational?
I heard Iran is winning. Is this true?