Well, SA Labor’s TPP was even better against ON than the Libs
Nippys4 on
Is the only party that can defeat one nation, one nation when they collapse themselves?
Sakilla07 on
I don’t know if I buy that a vote for One Nation is a vote against current issues when other parties exist, specificity a strong(ish) third party in the Greens, who have (by comparison) much more radical, but evidence based ideas towards improving Australian life in transportation, energy security, cost of living, etc.
Neelu86 on
Give it a few months. They will mimic Reform in the U.K, both in ascension and in collapse. Populism is easy, governing is the hard part. Reality will set in soon enough. This problem will be over much faster if the media stopped fanning the flames and actually let it extinguish.
If you were actually worried about her, you would be giving her failures like her fealty to Trump and support for the Iran war endless airtime instead trying to champion her success over the Liberals in SA. Counterintuitive reporting for a media that claims PHON are a threat to Australia.
zasedok on
Unfortunately I don’t remember the source, but some time ago I read a very interesting take on Trump’s victory in 2024. It was a criticism of the US Democrats but it applies to the ALP perfectly.
The author made the point that when Obama ran and won the presidency with the “Yes we can!” slogan, it was a very powerful slogan and a great example of political marketing but ever since, the Left actually became the party of “No we can’t”. In the Australian context, it’s spot on. No we can’t really, visibly cut immigration because reasons. No we can’t have cheap and abundant energy because the government owes answers to the UN, not to the Australian people. No we can’t have not just “affordable” but **cheap** housing because ideology. No we can’t have the cars we actually want. No we can’t have privacy and government transparency. Etc. Then there was the time when the ALP and Greens rolled into Clermont like conquerors to explain to the local Deplorables that no, they can’t have jobs.
But surely, when populists like ON score points, it’s all because voters are too stupid, right? Right?
DefinitionOfAsleep on
>But any hope the pollsters were wrong, that people would not vote the way they said they would, turned out to be misplaced.
Demos was wrong though, so were a few others.
You need to dig down into polling methodology to see which polls are reputable.
>But there is only one party with the ability to tangibly address those feelings in the next few years: not just to take advantage of them but to assuage them and prevent us entering a new political era. Because it is in government, that is the federal Labor Party. This means that Anthony Albanese may be the most consequential prime minister of our time.
The people voting for One Nation are not, in a million years, voting for Labor.
They are overwhelming in the radicalised regions, who think the cities are overrun with machete wielding foreigners.
The only area Labor has a hope of doing anything is the disadvantaged Urban fringe.
But the way to improve those areas lies with the states… the federal government has little impact there.
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Well, SA Labor’s TPP was even better against ON than the Libs
Is the only party that can defeat one nation, one nation when they collapse themselves?
I don’t know if I buy that a vote for One Nation is a vote against current issues when other parties exist, specificity a strong(ish) third party in the Greens, who have (by comparison) much more radical, but evidence based ideas towards improving Australian life in transportation, energy security, cost of living, etc.
Give it a few months. They will mimic Reform in the U.K, both in ascension and in collapse. Populism is easy, governing is the hard part. Reality will set in soon enough. This problem will be over much faster if the media stopped fanning the flames and actually let it extinguish.
If you were actually worried about her, you would be giving her failures like her fealty to Trump and support for the Iran war endless airtime instead trying to champion her success over the Liberals in SA. Counterintuitive reporting for a media that claims PHON are a threat to Australia.
Unfortunately I don’t remember the source, but some time ago I read a very interesting take on Trump’s victory in 2024. It was a criticism of the US Democrats but it applies to the ALP perfectly.
The author made the point that when Obama ran and won the presidency with the “Yes we can!” slogan, it was a very powerful slogan and a great example of political marketing but ever since, the Left actually became the party of “No we can’t”. In the Australian context, it’s spot on. No we can’t really, visibly cut immigration because reasons. No we can’t have cheap and abundant energy because the government owes answers to the UN, not to the Australian people. No we can’t have not just “affordable” but **cheap** housing because ideology. No we can’t have the cars we actually want. No we can’t have privacy and government transparency. Etc. Then there was the time when the ALP and Greens rolled into Clermont like conquerors to explain to the local Deplorables that no, they can’t have jobs.
But surely, when populists like ON score points, it’s all because voters are too stupid, right? Right?
>But any hope the pollsters were wrong, that people would not vote the way they said they would, turned out to be misplaced.
Demos was wrong though, so were a few others.
You need to dig down into polling methodology to see which polls are reputable.
>But there is only one party with the ability to tangibly address those feelings in the next few years: not just to take advantage of them but to assuage them and prevent us entering a new political era. Because it is in government, that is the federal Labor Party. This means that Anthony Albanese may be the most consequential prime minister of our time.
The people voting for One Nation are not, in a million years, voting for Labor.
They are overwhelming in the radicalised regions, who think the cities are overrun with machete wielding foreigners.
The only area Labor has a hope of doing anything is the disadvantaged Urban fringe.
But the way to improve those areas lies with the states… the federal government has little impact there.