I think the analysis and overthinking of this podcast appearance is completely overblown. We didn’t see this same analysis or discussion when Carney went on the Daily Show.
CanadianMultigun on
Is this based on people who actually listened to the whole podcast or people who just heard about him existing on the podcast?
SledgexHammer on
Unfortunately for Poilievre hes been banging the same drum for far too long to expect that anybody is going to change their opinion of him at this point. He can use his friendly voice and say things with a smile but hes not picking up any new voters, the only hope he has is Liberal fatigue. He appeared a lot more personable on Rogan, but it doesnt change the fact that he hasnt brought forward a meaningful solution in 20 years. The current climate should make it clear to the CPC that they need fundamental change, but they refuse to accept that and instead just want to tweak the messaging.
turudd on
The people who listen to Rogan are the same people that are probably gonna vote conservative anyway. I’m not sure how much influence it would actually have.
brad7811 on
I can’t imagine many people who aren’t already Pollievre/Rogan fans tuned in to this podcast. In my mind it would be normal for positive reactions to be higher than negative ones in this situation.
RespectAltruistic815 on
Irrelevant.
It only gave boners to his base. That’s it. It won’t matter the next time there’s an election anyhow.
If his supporters got excited about the softest of uninformed softball questions by a brain dead American tinfoil hat MAGAT who knows absolutely nothing about Canadian politics, that tracks.
Simplest explanation is that any Canadian loves to see their Canadian hero “validated” by any American media. “The Tragically Hip on SNL? Hooray, they noticed us”
This is that but for convoy bro’s
JoyofCookies on
For all the hype this was getting on Twitter from Coletto, the lede here seems to be buried in the write-up:
> His appearance on Rogan’s podcat didn’t reset how Canadians see Poilievre. It didn’t transform his coalition. But it also didn’t hurt him.
The recurrent problem for Poilievre is that Canadians have seen time and time again a pattern of reinventions and new leafs being turned, only for Poilievre to sprint back to hackneyed culture war drivel if only to rile up the Maple MAGA crowd.
It’s why despite Tories trying to remind people that Poilievre did in fact condemn Donald Trump during last year’s campaign, Canadians aren’t foolish enough to just set aside that not only were these condemnations completely ineffectual—like telling a neighbour moving their lawn at 6 in the morning in a a Saturday to piss off—it’s also that Poilievre’s style, rhetoric, and tone have consistently matched that of Donald Trump. One cannot have been raging about defunding the CBC, attacking diversity and inclusion, and having a party issue nonsense petitions about eating bugs to not see the resemblance.
It’s not really surprising that the effect of this is only modest, considering that Poilievre still is trying to read Carney as the same beast as Trudeau. Sure, it was a sensible interview, but the average Canadian likely looks at this says: ‘Great he’s learning his lesson, but I like Mark Carney as Prime Minister’
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I think the analysis and overthinking of this podcast appearance is completely overblown. We didn’t see this same analysis or discussion when Carney went on the Daily Show.
Is this based on people who actually listened to the whole podcast or people who just heard about him existing on the podcast?
Unfortunately for Poilievre hes been banging the same drum for far too long to expect that anybody is going to change their opinion of him at this point. He can use his friendly voice and say things with a smile but hes not picking up any new voters, the only hope he has is Liberal fatigue. He appeared a lot more personable on Rogan, but it doesnt change the fact that he hasnt brought forward a meaningful solution in 20 years. The current climate should make it clear to the CPC that they need fundamental change, but they refuse to accept that and instead just want to tweak the messaging.
The people who listen to Rogan are the same people that are probably gonna vote conservative anyway. I’m not sure how much influence it would actually have.
I can’t imagine many people who aren’t already Pollievre/Rogan fans tuned in to this podcast. In my mind it would be normal for positive reactions to be higher than negative ones in this situation.
Irrelevant.
It only gave boners to his base. That’s it. It won’t matter the next time there’s an election anyhow.
If his supporters got excited about the softest of uninformed softball questions by a brain dead American tinfoil hat MAGAT who knows absolutely nothing about Canadian politics, that tracks.
Simplest explanation is that any Canadian loves to see their Canadian hero “validated” by any American media. “The Tragically Hip on SNL? Hooray, they noticed us”
This is that but for convoy bro’s
For all the hype this was getting on Twitter from Coletto, the lede here seems to be buried in the write-up:
> His appearance on Rogan’s podcat didn’t reset how Canadians see Poilievre. It didn’t transform his coalition. But it also didn’t hurt him.
The recurrent problem for Poilievre is that Canadians have seen time and time again a pattern of reinventions and new leafs being turned, only for Poilievre to sprint back to hackneyed culture war drivel if only to rile up the Maple MAGA crowd.
It’s why despite Tories trying to remind people that Poilievre did in fact condemn Donald Trump during last year’s campaign, Canadians aren’t foolish enough to just set aside that not only were these condemnations completely ineffectual—like telling a neighbour moving their lawn at 6 in the morning in a a Saturday to piss off—it’s also that Poilievre’s style, rhetoric, and tone have consistently matched that of Donald Trump. One cannot have been raging about defunding the CBC, attacking diversity and inclusion, and having a party issue nonsense petitions about eating bugs to not see the resemblance.
It’s not really surprising that the effect of this is only modest, considering that Poilievre still is trying to read Carney as the same beast as Trudeau. Sure, it was a sensible interview, but the average Canadian likely looks at this says: ‘Great he’s learning his lesson, but I like Mark Carney as Prime Minister’