136,000 is a tiny fraction of the total number of firearms affected by these bans. That is basically only enough to cover the number of previously-Restricted class firearms, which are all registered to a specific owner, for a confiscation program these are the gimmie’s. IIRC, the number of AR15’s alone was about 100k.
The bulk of the firearms affected by the bans were previously-NonRestricted(able to be used outside of just the range), and were much more popular and widely owned than the Restricted firearms. Many of these have been flying off shelves for decades. A reasonable estimate would be in the millions.
Not even getting half of that low number signed up is pathetic, but they did that to themselves by telling everyone they had a very small chance of being compensated at all.
Solid_Occasion_6992 on
The limited scope of the buyback is what hurts it the most. Let estates who have no interest in firearms ensure they stay off the street (obviously prior to the oic’s they could generally be sold), let those who have actual illegal firearms turn them in with amnesty. But political activism forces this to fall into the laps of those who play by the rules to start with.
Let’s not forget certain firearms have been created into prohibs since this whole debacle started, and never showed up on the compensation list… almost like it’s not about safety, or fairness.
This file is Carneys chance to shine and actually win over some right leaning voters.
Ov3rReadKn1ght0wl on
At the end of the day, the LPC tried harder to sell the buyback to the public than sell it to gun owners. Selling it to gun owners would involve convincing them that they aren’t being used as scapegoats, that the banned firearms were weapons of war, that it would be a safer world if they just turned them in, and that there was truly a floor to the grabber agenda. The last task they might’ve been able to achieve, but the rest, good luck.
It’s hard to be convinced when the government’s messaging is a lie at every turn. They keep mentioning the AR15 when it’s only one gun on a list that plainly includes rimfire firearms, bolt action firearms and other stuff that is plainly not an AR15. You can mention one model, but when you banned thousands of others, bringing up the one isn’t an effective mask anymore. They repeatedly peddled the notion that these are weapons designed for the battlefield… Then why didn’t Ukraine want them? Oh right, because they are recreation, not military grade. Wrap that up with the notion that gun owners are supposedly all the worst mega criminals ever while also ‘confused’ just makes for an inconsistency that is hard to take. They aren’t complying with the buyback because they are confused. They aren’t complying because they want the government’s purely politically motivated stunt to be an awkward failure with a high price tag along with the fact that the buyback was really more of a buy-maybe. Compensation wasn’t even guaranteed per the government’s own website!
They had several off ramps for this, including rolling back some of the dumber banned items to keep the program budget under control, guaranteeing compensation, giving a floor to their willingness to scapegoat and even grandfathering. But they chose to continue which just shows either a buy in to zealotry on the subject, the need to buy political patronage or both.
Dokrogersphd on
The problem really is with the compensation. So many of the banned modules are being offered zero compensation. Why go through all the hassle for nothing when there is a slim chance you might be able to keep it.
Efficient_Tonight_40 on
Nathalie Provost and PolySeSouvient have been running the biggest racket in Canada for decades at this point, and have somehow convinced the entire liberal establishment that guns are a huge issue in Canada that needs billions of dollars shovelled into it. The reality though is that guns (especially legal guns) are not an issue in this country, and this is just about the biggest waste of money and political capital the government could possibly engage in
roadhammer2 on
Little brown Hitler says he sending RCMP door to door,good luck with that. Liberals trying to make lawful gun owners criminals ,again, fuck off already ! Most cops do not want any part of it.
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136,000 is a tiny fraction of the total number of firearms affected by these bans. That is basically only enough to cover the number of previously-Restricted class firearms, which are all registered to a specific owner, for a confiscation program these are the gimmie’s. IIRC, the number of AR15’s alone was about 100k.
The bulk of the firearms affected by the bans were previously-NonRestricted(able to be used outside of just the range), and were much more popular and widely owned than the Restricted firearms. Many of these have been flying off shelves for decades. A reasonable estimate would be in the millions.
Not even getting half of that low number signed up is pathetic, but they did that to themselves by telling everyone they had a very small chance of being compensated at all.
The limited scope of the buyback is what hurts it the most. Let estates who have no interest in firearms ensure they stay off the street (obviously prior to the oic’s they could generally be sold), let those who have actual illegal firearms turn them in with amnesty. But political activism forces this to fall into the laps of those who play by the rules to start with.
Let’s not forget certain firearms have been created into prohibs since this whole debacle started, and never showed up on the compensation list… almost like it’s not about safety, or fairness.
This file is Carneys chance to shine and actually win over some right leaning voters.
At the end of the day, the LPC tried harder to sell the buyback to the public than sell it to gun owners. Selling it to gun owners would involve convincing them that they aren’t being used as scapegoats, that the banned firearms were weapons of war, that it would be a safer world if they just turned them in, and that there was truly a floor to the grabber agenda. The last task they might’ve been able to achieve, but the rest, good luck.
It’s hard to be convinced when the government’s messaging is a lie at every turn. They keep mentioning the AR15 when it’s only one gun on a list that plainly includes rimfire firearms, bolt action firearms and other stuff that is plainly not an AR15. You can mention one model, but when you banned thousands of others, bringing up the one isn’t an effective mask anymore. They repeatedly peddled the notion that these are weapons designed for the battlefield… Then why didn’t Ukraine want them? Oh right, because they are recreation, not military grade. Wrap that up with the notion that gun owners are supposedly all the worst mega criminals ever while also ‘confused’ just makes for an inconsistency that is hard to take. They aren’t complying with the buyback because they are confused. They aren’t complying because they want the government’s purely politically motivated stunt to be an awkward failure with a high price tag along with the fact that the buyback was really more of a buy-maybe. Compensation wasn’t even guaranteed per the government’s own website!
They had several off ramps for this, including rolling back some of the dumber banned items to keep the program budget under control, guaranteeing compensation, giving a floor to their willingness to scapegoat and even grandfathering. But they chose to continue which just shows either a buy in to zealotry on the subject, the need to buy political patronage or both.
The problem really is with the compensation. So many of the banned modules are being offered zero compensation. Why go through all the hassle for nothing when there is a slim chance you might be able to keep it.
Nathalie Provost and PolySeSouvient have been running the biggest racket in Canada for decades at this point, and have somehow convinced the entire liberal establishment that guns are a huge issue in Canada that needs billions of dollars shovelled into it. The reality though is that guns (especially legal guns) are not an issue in this country, and this is just about the biggest waste of money and political capital the government could possibly engage in
Little brown Hitler says he sending RCMP door to door,good luck with that. Liberals trying to make lawful gun owners criminals ,again, fuck off already ! Most cops do not want any part of it.