congress has reviewed the petition, and decided no, they won’t be docking their own pay.
bigbusta on
I love the idea, but these chuckle fucks aren’t going to honor a petition
MPFarmer on
DO it.
forthewatch39 on
It’s a good idea, but kind of an empty gesture for many of them who are already wealthy and make money elsewhere.
Salmonberry234 on
This only affects the few actual middle class Representatives. The millionaires who are the problem are not going to be affected.
CurrentlyLucid on
Cut trump off from golfing as president during shutdowns, watch it stop fast.
Raspberries-Are-Evil on
Instead of this, organize in swing districts to vote Republicans out.
KulaanDoDinok on
The only people that will be affected by this are the good politicians. The corrupt ones aren’t relying on their congressional salaries to survive. Y’all gotta think beyond your gut instinct.
Physical_Gift7572 on
I like this idea on first thought but then I think it could be weaponized. It would mean that the rich can hold out while the non-rich need to give in in order to get paid. It could have serious ramifications.
snoo_spoo on
TBH, I don’t think that would nearly as useful an incentive as declaring the Congress has to stay in session, twelve hours a day, seven days a week, until the shutdown is resolved. Nobody leaves town, and no press conferences.
tacs97 on
We should make these people in power lose pay when they shut the government down. No back pay. No furlough. Nothing!! Take away theirs and they’ll stop trying to take away ours!!
Blind0ne on
The people pretending they still have power in their new dictatorship.
DerAlteGraue on
People acting like they are still living in a democracy is kind of cute.
KoRaZee on
Definitely not essential
JPenniman on
I have a better proposal, 100% capital gains tax for congress members during a government shutdown.
bludvein on
Not sure I agree with this petition. On first glance it’s great but that would give a lot of leverage to rich members of congress over those who rely on their salary. I prefer a no-confidence motion similar to the uk that forces an election for all if the government can’t pass a spending plan. That would be a better and more equal incentive to not play stupid games.
Chacco66 on
Instead of docking them pay, they should be forced to sell all their stock and pay capital gains (not that they should be allowed to have it anyway)
soliddeuce on
That incentivizes more corruption since this only effects congressmen playing by the rules.
WildlySkeptical on
Better yet, why dont we just codify the eliminations of shutdowns altogether, so that everyone still gets paid.
This can all be solved by it being that law that if there is no new budget agreed upon by 1 October, the gov automatically defaults to the most recently agreed upon budget. It really is that simple, but these shitbag politicians would rather use the citizens as pawns at our own expense.
Fit-Significance-436 on
This is a cute idea, but let’s be honest, they make all their money grifting, trading on insider info and living free on taxpayer dime.
Fit-Significance-436 on
This is a cute idea, but let’s be honest, they most make their money grifting, trading on insider info and living free on taxpayer dime.
usernamescifi on
Can we also strip them and other elected/appointed members of the federal government of their free healthcare as well?
If we should all have to pay for our own healthcare, then so should they.
E1M1_DOOM on
This is a great example of something that sounds like a solution, but, in reality, only makes things worse.
This only punishes congressmen who aren’t on the take.
Miserable-Surprise67 on
We NEED this. Also, stop their health benefits!
rdking647 on
it would require a constiutional amendment. which im in favor of. my idea would be if the government shuts down congressmen lose 3x their salary for the shutdown
e_t_ on
It’s really way too hard for representatives to lose their jobs. Failure to pass a budget should be grounds for snap elections. People who lose their seats *automatically* stop getting paid and a new slate of representatives might be more reasonable.
DreariestComa on
I upvoted, but thought for a second that if this were the case, the winner would be decided by who has the largest pocketbook, who can go without pay the longest, instead of perhaps a group or party that refuses to fund a government that no longer serves their constituents.
I hope people read this, I hope they point out where I’m wrong, or if I’m right, that they’d consider how dangerous that case would be.
Broken_Toad_Box on
Like anyone in congress relies on their actual paycheck.
Turckish on
Those people don’t earn money from salary, they earn from insider trading
theScherrif on
Who cares about their pay. Put them all up for reelection whenever there is a shutdown. They clearly can’t do their job
SlipDizzy on
Include any benefits, access to their offices, any use of government facilities, and any use of government electronics. No security team or drivers.
g2g079 on
This is a terrible idea and will hurt the honest ones the most. Personally, I don’t think Congress should be able to take money before, after, or during from 3rd parties for any work they did while they were serving the people.
yahskapar on
This feels like something that could easily get some solid bipartisan support, at least amongst voters :). Perhaps even throw some financial penalties in there – sure, sounds extreme, but something has to change in terms of disincentivizing the kind of showmanship that occurs in politics (especially during shutdowns) and better incentivizing actual problem solving.
chritenen on
It wouldnt even hurt them…
Their salary is the smallest portion of their wealth accumulation in office.
Ban trading for Congress and it will actually rattle some cages.
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Where’s it at!? I’ll sign it
congress has reviewed the petition, and decided no, they won’t be docking their own pay.
I love the idea, but these chuckle fucks aren’t going to honor a petition
DO it.
It’s a good idea, but kind of an empty gesture for many of them who are already wealthy and make money elsewhere.
This only affects the few actual middle class Representatives. The millionaires who are the problem are not going to be affected.
Cut trump off from golfing as president during shutdowns, watch it stop fast.
Instead of this, organize in swing districts to vote Republicans out.
The only people that will be affected by this are the good politicians. The corrupt ones aren’t relying on their congressional salaries to survive. Y’all gotta think beyond your gut instinct.
I like this idea on first thought but then I think it could be weaponized. It would mean that the rich can hold out while the non-rich need to give in in order to get paid. It could have serious ramifications.
TBH, I don’t think that would nearly as useful an incentive as declaring the Congress has to stay in session, twelve hours a day, seven days a week, until the shutdown is resolved. Nobody leaves town, and no press conferences.
We should make these people in power lose pay when they shut the government down. No back pay. No furlough. Nothing!! Take away theirs and they’ll stop trying to take away ours!!
The people pretending they still have power in their new dictatorship.
People acting like they are still living in a democracy is kind of cute.
Definitely not essential
I have a better proposal, 100% capital gains tax for congress members during a government shutdown.
Not sure I agree with this petition. On first glance it’s great but that would give a lot of leverage to rich members of congress over those who rely on their salary. I prefer a no-confidence motion similar to the uk that forces an election for all if the government can’t pass a spending plan. That would be a better and more equal incentive to not play stupid games.
Instead of docking them pay, they should be forced to sell all their stock and pay capital gains (not that they should be allowed to have it anyway)
That incentivizes more corruption since this only effects congressmen playing by the rules.
Better yet, why dont we just codify the eliminations of shutdowns altogether, so that everyone still gets paid.
This can all be solved by it being that law that if there is no new budget agreed upon by 1 October, the gov automatically defaults to the most recently agreed upon budget. It really is that simple, but these shitbag politicians would rather use the citizens as pawns at our own expense.
This is a cute idea, but let’s be honest, they make all their money grifting, trading on insider info and living free on taxpayer dime.
This is a cute idea, but let’s be honest, they most make their money grifting, trading on insider info and living free on taxpayer dime.
Can we also strip them and other elected/appointed members of the federal government of their free healthcare as well?
If we should all have to pay for our own healthcare, then so should they.
This is a great example of something that sounds like a solution, but, in reality, only makes things worse.
This only punishes congressmen who aren’t on the take.
We NEED this. Also, stop their health benefits!
it would require a constiutional amendment. which im in favor of. my idea would be if the government shuts down congressmen lose 3x their salary for the shutdown
It’s really way too hard for representatives to lose their jobs. Failure to pass a budget should be grounds for snap elections. People who lose their seats *automatically* stop getting paid and a new slate of representatives might be more reasonable.
I upvoted, but thought for a second that if this were the case, the winner would be decided by who has the largest pocketbook, who can go without pay the longest, instead of perhaps a group or party that refuses to fund a government that no longer serves their constituents.
I hope people read this, I hope they point out where I’m wrong, or if I’m right, that they’d consider how dangerous that case would be.
Like anyone in congress relies on their actual paycheck.
Those people don’t earn money from salary, they earn from insider trading
Who cares about their pay. Put them all up for reelection whenever there is a shutdown. They clearly can’t do their job
Include any benefits, access to their offices, any use of government facilities, and any use of government electronics. No security team or drivers.
This is a terrible idea and will hurt the honest ones the most. Personally, I don’t think Congress should be able to take money before, after, or during from 3rd parties for any work they did while they were serving the people.
This feels like something that could easily get some solid bipartisan support, at least amongst voters :). Perhaps even throw some financial penalties in there – sure, sounds extreme, but something has to change in terms of disincentivizing the kind of showmanship that occurs in politics (especially during shutdowns) and better incentivizing actual problem solving.
It wouldnt even hurt them…
Their salary is the smallest portion of their wealth accumulation in office.
Ban trading for Congress and it will actually rattle some cages.
Stop their health care!