They’re already in disarray, regardless of their reaction to this protest. That’s just how things go when Trump is your party leader and standard-bearer.
wewantedthefunk on
I’m genuinely concerned that MAGA are going to go back to their tried-and-true tactics of violence against protestors because they can’t handle their fee-fees or criticism for their dear leader. I predict a ridiculous and unnecessary as ever ICE presence, more masked men in vans causing chaos, and at least one MAGA domestic terrorist trying to drive their car into a crowd.
gGfsF5Sz2 on
Sounds like they are perfectly organized in their approach: _make shit up._
Rock-n-roll-Kevin on
Scott Bessent went on Fox News and rolled out the new MAGA “slogan”:
“No Kings equals no paychecks”
We should be thanking the think tank that developed this for them. What a gift.
FormerInstruction745 on
American’s with a brain hate MAGA!
TintedApostle on
I am waiting to see how MAGA denounces Thomas Paine’s Common Sense.
– “Because a body of men, holding themselves accountable
to nobody, ought not to be trusted by anybody.”
Shido_Ohtori on
“No Kings” is antithetical to conservatism, as the *sole* value of conservatism is respect for and obedience to [one’s perception of] traditionally established hierarchy, and hierarchy dictates that those on top (in-groups) are rightfully idolized and receive privileges, credibility, and resources, while those on the bottom (out-groups) are demonized/dehumanized and/or bound by restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources.
To them, the second-greatest injustice imaginable is for those [they perceive to be] on the bottom [of social hierarchy] to have access to the rights, credibility, and resources reserved for those on top. The first greatest injustice is for those on top to be bound by the restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources reserved for those on the bottom.
[Conservatism](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conservatism) — by definition — is “a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, **stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutions** (such as religion, the family, **and class structure**), and preferring gradual development to abrupt change”.
>Rational conservatives maintain that a community with a **hierarchy of authority is most conducive to human well-being**.
>Confucius is another possible precursor. His concern with the breakdown of contemporary political institutions led to a cautious, conservative political outlook; **his stress on authority and hierarchy prefigures central conservative themes**.
>With the Enlightenment, the natural order or **social hierarchy, previously largely accepted, was questioned**.
Western conservatism is a product from the Age of Enlightenment — specifically, a [Counter-Enlightenment](https://assets.press.princeton.edu/chapters/i7705.pdf), [a reactionary challenge to the concepts of Humanism](https://engelsbergideas.com/essays/counter-enlightenment/). Its philosophers inherently *reject[ed]* a society governed by logic and reason, human rights and dignity, science and democracy, as its ideology *solely appeal* to the authority of traditionally established hierarchies.
>Burke shocked his contemporaries by insisting with brutal frankness that **“illusions” and “prejudices” are socially necessary**. He believed that most **human beings are innately depraved, steeped in original sin, and unable to better themselves with their feeble reason**. Better, he said, to rely on the “latent wisdom” of prejudice, which accumulates slowly through the years, than to “put men to live and trade each on his own private stock of reason.” **Among such prejudices are those that favour an established church and a landed aristocracy**; members of the latter, according to Burke, are the “great oaks” and “proper chieftains” of society, provided that they temper their rule with a spirit of timely reform and remain within the constitutional framework.
Conservatism is not just a symptom — but *the worldview* — of those who believe *some people are “more/less” people than others*, as hierarchy isn’t just vital to conservatism, it is the foundation of such.
“Know your place” is their mantra.
Eastern-Rabbit-3696 on
it’s going to be crazy when they try to label 100s of thousands of people Antifa like your grandma lol
KGrizzle88 on
Umm I didn’t even know this was going to happen. We are far from “disarray”. Matter of fact I think we feel as strong as ever. I live in California too, where Newsom wants to disenfranchise the political minority so he can stick it to Texas. Yeah this is just yellow journalism at its finest and people are eating it up. Got to find a way to cope I suppose.
Marvin_Frommars on
They’re going to have to update their history books and paint the Boston Tea Party as anti-American.
CurrentlyLucid on
All that public support against their agenda must be getting to them.
The_Navarone on
“No Kings” is a complete joke. Republicans aren’t in *that* much of a disarray. How are they in disarray when they are controlling the House, Senate, and Supreme Court, have the most popular social media influencers, are allied with the richest man in the world, abusing their power with the federal agents and military, wiping their butt with the U.S. Constitution, implementing Project 2025 in real time, actually doing everything they promised, and still have a ton of support? The worst part is that the majority of people that actually voted in the United States actually *chose* this. This isn’t something that happened because we got conquered and were forced into a regime. Americans literally had the easiest choice at the voting booth, and they willingly *chose* this. The Republicans and ultraconservatives finally have the power that they always wanted, and they are pushing for even stronger white supremacy. Let’s not pretend that these friendly little gatherings will directly challenge the white supremacy plaguing this nation right now. Even the Republicans know it. The performative white liberals planning to attend these No Kings festivals aren’t serious at all by any means. It’s all just a big meme to most of them. We’d probably see more people playing around in costumes again while the Trump regime abuses its power.
Elon_is_a_Nazi on
Of course they hate people exercising their constitutional rights. The Republican Terrorist and Pedophile Party of America hates our constitution and basic American rights.
HaxanWriter on
I wish. But they’re not “in disarray.” They’re consolidating more fascist power everyday and this country is facing an existential crisis.
tracyinge on
They didn’t even notice the first one in June but this one has them doing somersaults
What_About_What on
If you’re going, please consider bringing American flags to fly. Bring your posters as well, but if we have a crowd of American flag waving people with anti Trump signs it’s going to be far harder for them to call the gathering unpatriotic. We need to take back the flag and use it to show we’re not anti American like they’re trying to label everyone that doesn’t agree with them.
oneseason2000 on
In fairness, millionaire professional football players kneeling had Republicans in Disarray. They fear peaceful protests. They characterize freedom of expression they disagree with as unpatriotic, and encourage insurrection when it suits them.
Dismal-Sail1027 on
My prediction is that the Insurrection Act will be deployed. Ugh. I hate fascism.
teamdiabetes11 on
I would love to see colorful, playful, inflatable frogs, hippos, dinosaurs, unicorns, sharks, and axolotls everywhere this weekend. Amazon suddenly had a rush on these like a week ago, so I’m hoping it happens. I want to see the entire country getting weird like Portland did and highlighting the absurdity of Trump’s bullshit.
Competitive-Ad-9404 on
Fox News will be talking about the No Kings protests while showing videos of soccer hooligan clashes with police from 10 years ago.
DharmaKarmaBrahma on
Republican’t get anything done.
cptngabozzo on
I kind of highly doubt that
Crommach on
Just to keep score here, MAGA is anti-antifascist, and now they’re saying “no” to the idea of “no kings”. Unless double negatives have suddenly changed…
rickee_martin on
I’m not trying to argue with you that’s the issue. I’m trying to see where you are coming from and from what I can gather you are not happy with the way people are speaking up. Understood.
space_manatee on
Ngl, the Republicans seem pretty lock step in order organized, not in disarray and this is part of their strategy to broadly denounce these protests.
pl487 on
Most people don’t even know there’s a protest, or care.
The Republicans know but understand that it poses absolutely no threat to them.
Everything is fine, and going exactly according to plan. We will be at war soon.
Icy_Struggle_7291 on
republicans stand for complete control over our lives our bodies and our minds. they are all up trumps rectum .
we the people are tired of sycophants handing over control of our democracy and completely abandoning their responsibilities to check and balance power to a wannabe king .
we are making sure we are heard by all in our representative government . every congressperson represents the constituents in their districts we want to make sure they hear us loud and clear !
ChiliCop on
Do any of these MAGA folks celebrate July 4th?
auroch81 on
MAGA Royalists want to tax us and take away our representation.
chessandspoonmaker on
this will be a bloodless revoultution so as the left allows it be..
hertiage foundation
unpanny_valley on
Crazy how little coverage we’re seeing of this.
JemmaMimic on
Keeping in mind what’s going on in other countries right now, of course this authoritarian administration is scared. The only thing stopping many on the Right from joining is the decades of Fox and other hate news demonizing the Left. Real America is against what Trump is doing.
Sufficient_Steak_839 on
I hate all of them but they aren’t in disarray at all, get real yall.
IrrelevantLeprechaun on
No they’re not. They literally have everything they could have ever wanted. They’re only pushing terrorist rhetoric against protestors and the Left because they want *more*. But they are by no means in disarray.
These headlines are promoting a false narrative that MAGA is failing because said narrative convinces people that things are self correcting on their own and don’t require any intervention from the populace. It keeps them complacent and sitting at home
BillNyeCreampieGuy on
No it doesn’t
Ultimo_Ninja on
Trump is elected. He won the popular vote and the electoral college. He is not even close to being a king.
xHourglassx on
And thus we live in a day when the people who consider themselves the most patriotic Americans are up in arms because the rest of us don’t want to live in a monarchy. History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
Henryhendrix on
50 people could topple the administration
verugan on
Peaceful protest is one of the most American things you can do. In dictatorships it’s not allowed.
Dat_Harass on
Been alive since the 80’s haven’t seen a protest do a damn thing in my lifetime except increase authoritarianism and police spending. Don’t get me wrong I still go when i can but man… each and every time I leave disheartened and feeling like we’ve accomplished nothing.
How exactly does this have them in disarray?
Fake Edit: I love seeing Thomas Paine quotes. More of that please.
ideamotor on
Being against having a king is something I think most Republicans will come around to. Not sure what bad shit will happen before that happens though.
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They’re already in disarray, regardless of their reaction to this protest. That’s just how things go when Trump is your party leader and standard-bearer.
I’m genuinely concerned that MAGA are going to go back to their tried-and-true tactics of violence against protestors because they can’t handle their fee-fees or criticism for their dear leader. I predict a ridiculous and unnecessary as ever ICE presence, more masked men in vans causing chaos, and at least one MAGA domestic terrorist trying to drive their car into a crowd.
Sounds like they are perfectly organized in their approach: _make shit up._
Scott Bessent went on Fox News and rolled out the new MAGA “slogan”:
“No Kings equals no paychecks”
We should be thanking the think tank that developed this for them. What a gift.
American’s with a brain hate MAGA!
I am waiting to see how MAGA denounces Thomas Paine’s Common Sense.
– “Because a body of men, holding themselves accountable
to nobody, ought not to be trusted by anybody.”
“No Kings” is antithetical to conservatism, as the *sole* value of conservatism is respect for and obedience to [one’s perception of] traditionally established hierarchy, and hierarchy dictates that those on top (in-groups) are rightfully idolized and receive privileges, credibility, and resources, while those on the bottom (out-groups) are demonized/dehumanized and/or bound by restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources.
To them, the second-greatest injustice imaginable is for those [they perceive to be] on the bottom [of social hierarchy] to have access to the rights, credibility, and resources reserved for those on top. The first greatest injustice is for those on top to be bound by the restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources reserved for those on the bottom.
[Conservatism](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/conservatism) — by definition — is “a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability, **stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutions** (such as religion, the family, **and class structure**), and preferring gradual development to abrupt change”.
Likewise, from [Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy](https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/conservatism/):
>Rational conservatives maintain that a community with a **hierarchy of authority is most conducive to human well-being**.
>Confucius is another possible precursor. His concern with the breakdown of contemporary political institutions led to a cautious, conservative political outlook; **his stress on authority and hierarchy prefigures central conservative themes**.
>With the Enlightenment, the natural order or **social hierarchy, previously largely accepted, was questioned**.
Western conservatism is a product from the Age of Enlightenment — specifically, a [Counter-Enlightenment](https://assets.press.princeton.edu/chapters/i7705.pdf), [a reactionary challenge to the concepts of Humanism](https://engelsbergideas.com/essays/counter-enlightenment/). Its philosophers inherently *reject[ed]* a society governed by logic and reason, human rights and dignity, science and democracy, as its ideology *solely appeal* to the authority of traditionally established hierarchies.
From the [Intellectual Roots of Conservatism: The Burkean Foundations](https://www.britannica.com/topic/conservatism/Intellectual-roots-of-conservatism), the man who is considered to be the founder of modern day Western conservatism had such to say about his ideology:
>Burke shocked his contemporaries by insisting with brutal frankness that **“illusions” and “prejudices” are socially necessary**. He believed that most **human beings are innately depraved, steeped in original sin, and unable to better themselves with their feeble reason**. Better, he said, to rely on the “latent wisdom” of prejudice, which accumulates slowly through the years, than to “put men to live and trade each on his own private stock of reason.” **Among such prejudices are those that favour an established church and a landed aristocracy**; members of the latter, according to Burke, are the “great oaks” and “proper chieftains” of society, provided that they temper their rule with a spirit of timely reform and remain within the constitutional framework.
Conservatism is not just a symptom — but *the worldview* — of those who believe *some people are “more/less” people than others*, as hierarchy isn’t just vital to conservatism, it is the foundation of such.
“Know your place” is their mantra.
it’s going to be crazy when they try to label 100s of thousands of people Antifa like your grandma lol
Umm I didn’t even know this was going to happen. We are far from “disarray”. Matter of fact I think we feel as strong as ever. I live in California too, where Newsom wants to disenfranchise the political minority so he can stick it to Texas. Yeah this is just yellow journalism at its finest and people are eating it up. Got to find a way to cope I suppose.
They’re going to have to update their history books and paint the Boston Tea Party as anti-American.
All that public support against their agenda must be getting to them.
“No Kings” is a complete joke. Republicans aren’t in *that* much of a disarray. How are they in disarray when they are controlling the House, Senate, and Supreme Court, have the most popular social media influencers, are allied with the richest man in the world, abusing their power with the federal agents and military, wiping their butt with the U.S. Constitution, implementing Project 2025 in real time, actually doing everything they promised, and still have a ton of support? The worst part is that the majority of people that actually voted in the United States actually *chose* this. This isn’t something that happened because we got conquered and were forced into a regime. Americans literally had the easiest choice at the voting booth, and they willingly *chose* this. The Republicans and ultraconservatives finally have the power that they always wanted, and they are pushing for even stronger white supremacy. Let’s not pretend that these friendly little gatherings will directly challenge the white supremacy plaguing this nation right now. Even the Republicans know it. The performative white liberals planning to attend these No Kings festivals aren’t serious at all by any means. It’s all just a big meme to most of them. We’d probably see more people playing around in costumes again while the Trump regime abuses its power.
Of course they hate people exercising their constitutional rights. The Republican Terrorist and Pedophile Party of America hates our constitution and basic American rights.
I wish. But they’re not “in disarray.” They’re consolidating more fascist power everyday and this country is facing an existential crisis.
They didn’t even notice the first one in June but this one has them doing somersaults
If you’re going, please consider bringing American flags to fly. Bring your posters as well, but if we have a crowd of American flag waving people with anti Trump signs it’s going to be far harder for them to call the gathering unpatriotic. We need to take back the flag and use it to show we’re not anti American like they’re trying to label everyone that doesn’t agree with them.
In fairness, millionaire professional football players kneeling had Republicans in Disarray. They fear peaceful protests. They characterize freedom of expression they disagree with as unpatriotic, and encourage insurrection when it suits them.
My prediction is that the Insurrection Act will be deployed. Ugh. I hate fascism.
I would love to see colorful, playful, inflatable frogs, hippos, dinosaurs, unicorns, sharks, and axolotls everywhere this weekend. Amazon suddenly had a rush on these like a week ago, so I’m hoping it happens. I want to see the entire country getting weird like Portland did and highlighting the absurdity of Trump’s bullshit.
Fox News will be talking about the No Kings protests while showing videos of soccer hooligan clashes with police from 10 years ago.
Republican’t get anything done.
I kind of highly doubt that
Just to keep score here, MAGA is anti-antifascist, and now they’re saying “no” to the idea of “no kings”. Unless double negatives have suddenly changed…
I’m not trying to argue with you that’s the issue. I’m trying to see where you are coming from and from what I can gather you are not happy with the way people are speaking up. Understood.
Ngl, the Republicans seem pretty lock step in order organized, not in disarray and this is part of their strategy to broadly denounce these protests.
Most people don’t even know there’s a protest, or care.
The Republicans know but understand that it poses absolutely no threat to them.
Everything is fine, and going exactly according to plan. We will be at war soon.
republicans stand for complete control over our lives our bodies and our minds. they are all up trumps rectum .
we the people are tired of sycophants handing over control of our democracy and completely abandoning their responsibilities to check and balance power to a wannabe king .
we are making sure we are heard by all in our representative government . every congressperson represents the constituents in their districts we want to make sure they hear us loud and clear !
Do any of these MAGA folks celebrate July 4th?
MAGA Royalists want to tax us and take away our representation.
this will be a bloodless revoultution so as the left allows it be..
hertiage foundation
Crazy how little coverage we’re seeing of this.
Keeping in mind what’s going on in other countries right now, of course this authoritarian administration is scared. The only thing stopping many on the Right from joining is the decades of Fox and other hate news demonizing the Left. Real America is against what Trump is doing.
I hate all of them but they aren’t in disarray at all, get real yall.
No they’re not. They literally have everything they could have ever wanted. They’re only pushing terrorist rhetoric against protestors and the Left because they want *more*. But they are by no means in disarray.
These headlines are promoting a false narrative that MAGA is failing because said narrative convinces people that things are self correcting on their own and don’t require any intervention from the populace. It keeps them complacent and sitting at home
No it doesn’t
Trump is elected. He won the popular vote and the electoral college. He is not even close to being a king.
And thus we live in a day when the people who consider themselves the most patriotic Americans are up in arms because the rest of us don’t want to live in a monarchy. History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
50 people could topple the administration
Peaceful protest is one of the most American things you can do. In dictatorships it’s not allowed.
Been alive since the 80’s haven’t seen a protest do a damn thing in my lifetime except increase authoritarianism and police spending. Don’t get me wrong I still go when i can but man… each and every time I leave disheartened and feeling like we’ve accomplished nothing.
How exactly does this have them in disarray?
Fake Edit: I love seeing Thomas Paine quotes. More of that please.
Being against having a king is something I think most Republicans will come around to. Not sure what bad shit will happen before that happens though.