The Honor System only works if the people involved are honorable and humble enough to believe that they are a small part of something greater than themselves.
Travelerdude on
The office of the president is an honor system assuming the holder is honorable. Trump, a convicted felon and confirmed rapist and suspected pedophile is anything but honorable.
ETPRODITORES on
Cool , so much for that ballroom and the Arc de Trumpreich then. Wreck em day one.
Antipolemic on
It helps if one understands Trump fashions himself (unwittingly since he’s never read any Philosophy I’m sure) as a Nietzschean “Übermensch.” He transcends traditional ethics and morality, only following his own code, in an attempt to realize what he considers a grand mission he’s set for himself. Breaking all the rules is okay if the end is important and noble enough (in his mind). But, like many of Russian writer Dostoyevsky’s famous characters who try to transcend universal moral precepts, he is doomed to fail and instead, bring about only destruction and death and suffering from his efforts.
TintedApostle on
If you all haven’t noticed the entire republic is an honor system.
cjwidd on
I think they should destroy the whole WH, it would be emblematic of the administration.
RedSpecter22 on
It is deeply stupid to have so many “norms” instead of shit codified. Not that people like Trump care about the law, but law over handshakes and “understandings” is absolutely the way to go with all things. I’m not even talking about the White House and the ballroom exclusively, because I don’t care about that. I mean that, from his first term and his second term, we have all seen how many things in DC operate off of “norms”. To repeat myself, that is deeply stupid.
It’s wild just how much the legislative branch of our government has relegated itself to being a second-tier branch at the federal level over the past 25 years alone either giving the Executive more and more power on paper or just thinking that “norms” will save them or stop things that might be bad, etc.
WinterXORmute on
No. It’s not. It’s a legally protected monument. He just broke the law.
bubbasass on
The checks and balances of the entire government are an honor system.
ChiliSama on
There are actual rules and procedures for doing these things; but the problem is there isn’t any sanction when those rules are broken. So they are, in effect, pointless.
NoSwimmers45 on
Let’s be fair here. Trump doesn’t know what day it is but people around him “noticed” and put him up to it.
charliej102 on
All laws, even The Constitution, are essentially an “honor system”, with complete Right of the People to alter or abolish them. Let me repeat “all laws”.
“Governments are instituted among Men (sic), deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”
History is replete with examples of governments that no longer exist due to dissolution of the “social contract” or changes in consent among the People.
Persons have the right to challenge the current government as well.
pilot2969 on
Democracy was an honor system. Trump noticed.
DrRealName on
Yeah since 2016 I have learned that everyone in power has an honor system for accountability while everyone under them has hard rules enforced to the maximum. That shit needs to change. I believe people in power should be held accountable even MORE so than the average person. In fact in you are in a position of authority and break the rules or the law, you should face a minimum of three times the consequences the average person would face because being in power you definitely know better than to break rules or laws.
I’m at the point where I think its time to end America as it was and create a whole new America with new laws and a new constitution. The old ways have destroyed us all. There is no reason to keep doing what we are doing anymore. Might as well try something new.
spaceninj on
Trump figured this out about the Constitution too.
twitch_delta_blues on
Turns out, most of government is on the honor system. It’s time to curtail the office of the president and codify procedures, like conforming Supreme Court nominees. Surprise surprise, you can’t trust politicians to have honor.
AstroBullivant on
Trump wants the White House to look like the Palace at Versailles.
space_cow_girl on
He also had a luncheon for senate republicans on the ~~rose garden~~ concrete slab, while plumes of asbestos were being released from the piss poor demolition of the east wing.
ZuesMyGoose on
Honor and decorum are unavailable to the MaGats and the GOP
SeductiveSunday on
Trump isn’t just demolishing the East wing, his plan is to demolish the entire White House and morph it into the typical dictator image.
>Domestic interiors reveal how people want to be seen. But they also reveal something about the owners’ inner lives, their cultural reference points and how they relate to other people. With its marble-inlaid dining table, painted ceilings and gold flourishes quite literally everywhere, Trump’s aesthetic puts him more in the visual tradition of Turkmenistan President Saparmurat Niyazov, who erected a massive rotating golden statue of himself in Ashgabat, than the self-effacing gray-suited conventions of Western democratic leaders. Atop Trump Tower, Trump’s apartment projects a kind of power that bypasses all the boring checks and balances of collaboration and mutual responsibility and first-among-equals. It is about a single dominant personality.
>This, of course, is a startlingly un-American idea. The Trump look is miles from the architectural tradition of Washington, D.C., a city kept deliberately low-rise in its center, and whose neoclassical public buildings evoke stability and trustworthiness through their restraint. From the White House to the monuments, the American capital was designed to avoid Europe’s autocratic excesses, projecting a message of simplicity, democracy and egalitarianism—precisely the opposite of the new brand in town. https://archive.ph/z6ijk
With no one actually vested in stopping Trump, Trump will destroy the entire White House. That’s the current Republican parties platform. Remaking the US into a monarchy for Trump and his family.
This is all going to get costly for tax payers. Trump’s ballroom alone is headed towards $1 billion ++ alone.
Torrsall on
Hmmm…. Coming from the man with no honor
FaithlessnessWhich18 on
He always notices or some sycophant points it out. Like a snake slithering into your home through a crack you haven’t noticed.
physical0 on
Honestly, we need to gut the building after he gets evicted. There is no telling how compromised the place is.
ArchitectureNstuff91 on
After CW2 is over and won, we’re gonna need a system of real, heavy consequences for all levels and branches of government.
Vanilla_Either on
He has no honour.
Due-Egg4743 on
I actually had to Google if the White House has a McDonald’s. It just seems like something he would’ve added by now.
AceofKnaves44 on
How many things has Trump gotten away with/been allowed to do because nobody explicitly thought to make them illegal since they assumed it would go without saying?
KiwDaWabbit2 on
Yet, when a Democrat eventually tries to undo this mess, Republicans will do their best performance art about wasteful spending.
manofmystry on
Too bad Trump has no honor.
JohnAStark on
No honor in this one…
Upset-Government-856 on
The “greatest democracy on earth” turned out to be an honor system.
juanjung on
And he has no honor so the White House is fucked.
veracity8_ on
The entire government is an honor system. All of law is an honor system. Trump is proof that all of government is just words and paper unless it’s enforced.
128-NotePolyVA on
😂 no kidding – welcome to Lincoln’s gold and marble thrown room.
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The Honor System only works if the people involved are honorable and humble enough to believe that they are a small part of something greater than themselves.
The office of the president is an honor system assuming the holder is honorable. Trump, a convicted felon and confirmed rapist and suspected pedophile is anything but honorable.
Cool , so much for that ballroom and the Arc de Trumpreich then. Wreck em day one.
It helps if one understands Trump fashions himself (unwittingly since he’s never read any Philosophy I’m sure) as a Nietzschean “Übermensch.” He transcends traditional ethics and morality, only following his own code, in an attempt to realize what he considers a grand mission he’s set for himself. Breaking all the rules is okay if the end is important and noble enough (in his mind). But, like many of Russian writer Dostoyevsky’s famous characters who try to transcend universal moral precepts, he is doomed to fail and instead, bring about only destruction and death and suffering from his efforts.
If you all haven’t noticed the entire republic is an honor system.
I think they should destroy the whole WH, it would be emblematic of the administration.
It is deeply stupid to have so many “norms” instead of shit codified. Not that people like Trump care about the law, but law over handshakes and “understandings” is absolutely the way to go with all things. I’m not even talking about the White House and the ballroom exclusively, because I don’t care about that. I mean that, from his first term and his second term, we have all seen how many things in DC operate off of “norms”. To repeat myself, that is deeply stupid.
It’s wild just how much the legislative branch of our government has relegated itself to being a second-tier branch at the federal level over the past 25 years alone either giving the Executive more and more power on paper or just thinking that “norms” will save them or stop things that might be bad, etc.
No. It’s not. It’s a legally protected monument. He just broke the law.
The checks and balances of the entire government are an honor system.
There are actual rules and procedures for doing these things; but the problem is there isn’t any sanction when those rules are broken. So they are, in effect, pointless.
Let’s be fair here. Trump doesn’t know what day it is but people around him “noticed” and put him up to it.
All laws, even The Constitution, are essentially an “honor system”, with complete Right of the People to alter or abolish them. Let me repeat “all laws”.
“Governments are instituted among Men (sic), deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.”
History is replete with examples of governments that no longer exist due to dissolution of the “social contract” or changes in consent among the People.
Persons have the right to challenge the current government as well.
Democracy was an honor system. Trump noticed.
Yeah since 2016 I have learned that everyone in power has an honor system for accountability while everyone under them has hard rules enforced to the maximum. That shit needs to change. I believe people in power should be held accountable even MORE so than the average person. In fact in you are in a position of authority and break the rules or the law, you should face a minimum of three times the consequences the average person would face because being in power you definitely know better than to break rules or laws.
I’m at the point where I think its time to end America as it was and create a whole new America with new laws and a new constitution. The old ways have destroyed us all. There is no reason to keep doing what we are doing anymore. Might as well try something new.
Trump figured this out about the Constitution too.
Turns out, most of government is on the honor system. It’s time to curtail the office of the president and codify procedures, like conforming Supreme Court nominees. Surprise surprise, you can’t trust politicians to have honor.
Trump wants the White House to look like the Palace at Versailles.
He also had a luncheon for senate republicans on the ~~rose garden~~ concrete slab, while plumes of asbestos were being released from the piss poor demolition of the east wing.
Honor and decorum are unavailable to the MaGats and the GOP
Trump isn’t just demolishing the East wing, his plan is to demolish the entire White House and morph it into the typical dictator image.
>Domestic interiors reveal how people want to be seen. But they also reveal something about the owners’ inner lives, their cultural reference points and how they relate to other people. With its marble-inlaid dining table, painted ceilings and gold flourishes quite literally everywhere, Trump’s aesthetic puts him more in the visual tradition of Turkmenistan President Saparmurat Niyazov, who erected a massive rotating golden statue of himself in Ashgabat, than the self-effacing gray-suited conventions of Western democratic leaders. Atop Trump Tower, Trump’s apartment projects a kind of power that bypasses all the boring checks and balances of collaboration and mutual responsibility and first-among-equals. It is about a single dominant personality.
>This, of course, is a startlingly un-American idea. The Trump look is miles from the architectural tradition of Washington, D.C., a city kept deliberately low-rise in its center, and whose neoclassical public buildings evoke stability and trustworthiness through their restraint. From the White House to the monuments, the American capital was designed to avoid Europe’s autocratic excesses, projecting a message of simplicity, democracy and egalitarianism—precisely the opposite of the new brand in town. https://archive.ph/z6ijk
With no one actually vested in stopping Trump, Trump will destroy the entire White House. That’s the current Republican parties platform. Remaking the US into a monarchy for Trump and his family.
This is all going to get costly for tax payers. Trump’s ballroom alone is headed towards $1 billion ++ alone.
Hmmm…. Coming from the man with no honor
He always notices or some sycophant points it out. Like a snake slithering into your home through a crack you haven’t noticed.
Honestly, we need to gut the building after he gets evicted. There is no telling how compromised the place is.
After CW2 is over and won, we’re gonna need a system of real, heavy consequences for all levels and branches of government.
He has no honour.
I actually had to Google if the White House has a McDonald’s. It just seems like something he would’ve added by now.
How many things has Trump gotten away with/been allowed to do because nobody explicitly thought to make them illegal since they assumed it would go without saying?
Yet, when a Democrat eventually tries to undo this mess, Republicans will do their best performance art about wasteful spending.
Too bad Trump has no honor.
No honor in this one…
The “greatest democracy on earth” turned out to be an honor system.
And he has no honor so the White House is fucked.
The entire government is an honor system. All of law is an honor system. Trump is proof that all of government is just words and paper unless it’s enforced.
😂 no kidding – welcome to Lincoln’s gold and marble thrown room.