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  1. They’re getting played if they actually want the ACA extension.

    The deal is to vote for the Republican house package as it is and Thune will allow a separate vote on ACA extensions.

    I’m so sick of these couple centrist Democrats always giving everything away for nothing in return.

    I’m guessing what they actually want is Republicans to cause more suffering so they can run against it, rather than to deliver anything for the people.

  2. The Democrats caved. They had a winning hand and threw it away. Now Republicans will screw them over and the Dems will pretend to be oh so shocked that they were lied to.

    Fuck this.

  3. fullmetalforeign on

    The moderate democrats caved without getting anything. Congrats republicans! I am tonights biggest loser being a democrat. This party sucks and they are cowards. All the dems that will vote for this need to be primaried asap.

  4. oven_toasted_bread on

    They just showed that they will always eventually give in. Trump will be celebrated as a master negotiator. Pathetic.

  5. MawsonAntarctica on

    The news is still hot and freshmen so far it looks like three senators have gone rogue and possibly could be on their own. Nothing is set nd everyone is reacting without reading.

  6. This is tentative and going on some old info still. It said Schumer would vote “yes”… BUT

    Schumer most recently said he’d vote ‘no’:

    After Democrats met for over two hours to discuss the proposal, Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer emerged to say he would vote “no.”

    [https://apnews.com/article/government-shutdown-congress-trump-641e7e2324f261da72395b604d9540e8](https://apnews.com/article/government-shutdown-congress-trump-641e7e2324f261da72395b604d9540e8)

  7. Never underestimate the Democrats ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    How pathetic.

  8. Party polling showed Democratic voters wanted them to hold out and not cave. Polling across the nation showed people blamed Republicans and Trump.

    Literally not a single good reason to do this, and so many good reasons to keep fighting. This is the kind of shit that turns people away from the Democratic Party. Fully earning that “do nothing Democrat” nickname right now.

  9. What Democrats are doing is giving up

    And putting Republicans on vote record in December voting No to extend subsidies.

    And in the end, the subsidies won’t be renewed, screwing over tens of millions of people and putting the entire country through all of this for nothing

    ….all because these defector Democrats think they can use the Republican vote record to their advantage in the mid-terms.

    What a disgrace. An absolute disgrace.

  10. It really was all for nothing. This right here…this is why people fucking give up on democracy and accept corruption and autocracy as inevitable endpoints of society. This is why so many people in younger generations have become cynical, nihilistic, and radicalized.

    And yet…was it really ever going to end any differently? Republicans made it clear they were completely fine with holding the country hostage indefinitely and didn’t care how much it hurt Americans. Democrats are the ones supposed to actually care about Americans. We always knew who was going to blink first.

    It really was a “heads I win, tails you lose” scenario in Trump’s favor.

  11. Oh so they’ll put the extension to a vote at a later date? This is like being elementary school gullible. You know they are going to vote no in unison. How could you fall for that?

  12. Schmetterlingus on

    I’m so happy I’ve never been a member of the Democratic Party. I may vote with them almost all the time but they are the most spineless politicians imaginable

  13. TheMoorNextDoor on

    Primary every democrat that voted for this.

    Every single one needs to be out of office.

    Their time of service is over.

  14. Thebestphysique on

    This is so frustrating. The pain from the shutdown is now in vain because they may as well have caved 35 days ago. Why can the Democratic Party never stick to their guns when it counts the most.

  15. unaskthequestion on

    So tired of this, make a stand or don’t.

    From what I’ve read it’s a ‘promise’ to vote on the subsidies ‘sometime’ in December and a CR that will keep the gov open until Jan.

    So we go a couple of months and then have another fight. The republicans already got their tax cuts for billionaires and gutted programs the less well off rely on to live.

    The democrats will get nothing.

  16. A pinkie-promise for a vote that on a bill that will never cross 60 votes. Way to fucking go. Oh boy, you showed ’em.

  17. danappropriate on

    This is why the Democratic Party is weak and continues to get rolled over. Moderates don’t have the stomach.

  18. MyPickleWillTickle on

    >“This legislation will protect federal workers from baseless firings, reinstate those who have been wrongfully terminated during the shutdown, and ensure federal workers receive back pay, as required by a law I got passed in 2019,” Mr. Kaine said in a statement. “That’s a critical step.”

    I know I am not the brightest star in the galaxy, but can someone please enlighten me what the fuck he actually accomplished since these firings were illegal and should be reversed anyway, and the backpay for furloughed feds is already guaranteed by a 2019 law?

  19. lifeuh_finds_a_way on

    Keep in mind that the Dems who are pushing for this are doing this just as they got more leverage – snap benefits were half returned.

    Kick these fucks out of the Congress and out of the democratic party. They are Republicans – and it’s never been more obvious than right now.

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