Can we start assigning the real names behind every legislation?
Colonel-Mooseknuckle on
*“Call it Trumpcare, call it whatever you want to call it. Anything but Obamacare. Obamacare is a disaster, just like he was as a president,”*
Such a petty little bitch.
-CJF- on
That’s not even a healthcare plan.
thenewrepublic on
>As the government shutdown begins to wind down, with some Democrats backing off their bid to extend subsidies under the Affordable Care Act, the president has started waxing on about his own vision for a new system of American health care.
>“I want instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into an account for people, where the people buy their own health insurance. It’s so good. The insurance will be better. It’ll cost less. Everybody’s gonna be happy. They’re gonna feel like entrepreneurs,” Trump said during a Fox News interview Monday night. “They’re actually gonna be able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance. And they can use it only for that reason, that’s the beauty—only for that purpose.
>…
>“This is, unsurprisingly, nonsensical. Is he suggesting eliminating health insurance and giving people a few thousand dollars instead? And then when they get a cancer diagnosis they just go bankrupt?” Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy wrote on X Sunday.
>Currently, Obamacare enrollees never see the funds from their tax credits, which instead are sent directly to insurers. Trump figures that consumers would rather see the money themselves, what little of it there is. His plan purports to take the burden of negotiating insurance rates away from health care providers and large companies, and place it on individuals.
belisario262 on
wow, Trump would’ve loved the Wild West. I mean that’s what he’s proposing at least.
Interesting_Trip395 on
So a marketplace where you directly negotiate with the insurance company? Sounds like you’d have more leverage if you could join with others in a marketplace that spread the risk across more policies… Wait, that sounds familiar
CJDistasio on
“I want instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into an account for people, where the people buy their own health insurance. It’s so good. The insurance will be better. It’ll cost less. Everybody’s gonna be happy. They’re gonna feel like entrepreneurs,” Trump said during a Fox News interview Monday night. “They’re actually gonna be able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance. And they can use it only for that reason, that’s the beauty—only for that purpose.”
No insurance company is gonna “negotiate” with Bill from fucking Montana on what healthcare insurance rates he gets. Companies will charge whatever high prices they want and people will like it
ResidentKelpien on
From the article:
>“I want instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into an account for people, where the people buy their own health insurance. It’s so good. The insurance will be better. It’ll cost less. Everybody’s gonna be happy. They’re gonna feel like entrepreneurs,” Trump [said](https://x.com/atrupar/status/1988035966632599763?s=20) during a Fox News interview Monday night. “They’re actually gonna be able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance. And they can use it only for that reason, that’s the beauty—only for that purpose.
We want to be healthy – not feel freaking stressed like an entrepreneur.
janewp on
Old man Trump is delusional.
Otherwise-Sun2486 on
universal healthcare please
epidemica on
My employers health plan went up 60%, and the dental plan went up 200%.
Fuck the whole system. Let it burn.
sugarlessdeathbear on
Trump’s plans to increase likeability are giving people money from the government. A thing that any other time conservatives scream about and how it’s about buying votes. Not that consistency is any part of conservatism.
Seraphim99 on
Johnson was on Fox this morning talking about their healthcare plan, and he said “We’ve got notebooks full of ideas.” 🤦🏻♀️
ZonghZonghZongh on
I think an audacious group of Democrats should seize on this moment, and make overtures to Trump about implementing a public option to compete with these “greedy insurance companies”. We’ll call it the Donald J Trump Premium USA Gold Patriot Plan.
Since we’re stuck with the sonofabitch, I don’t why more Democrats don’t make appeals to Trump’s vanity to get concessions. Try something new. 🤷♂️
GatewayArcher on
“It’s gonna cost less.”
– proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump has no clue how health insurance companies price their plans.
nickitynock on
IDK, has anyone thought of going to one of the 36 out of 37 other developed nations on the planet and ask how they do it?
I mean since they’ve all had it for decades and we still haven’t figured it out…
imjustsurfin on
It should be called the “We’re Pretending We Care (but we don’t really) Act”
Verum_Orbis on
We know what the solution is. It’s universal healthcare but the billionaire and opulent class are preventing this. So many of the problems and hardships in this country, the richest country in human history, would be solved by this. It would have positive effects on society that would reverberate for generations. For profit healthcare in the richest country on Earth is cruel and barbaric.
zirky on
>person: let me negotiate my healthcare plan!
>insurance company: lol get fucked. here’s your option
Plebian401 on
Geez, every “idea” this guy has includes extra steps which adds costs.
dxyqer on
He talks like a 5 year old. His plan isn’t even at that level though.
Apprehensive_Ad_4359 on
No doubt the insurance companies would offer some base plan not worth shit that would cost whatever subsidy you receive from the government and then price gouge “upgrades “ that would still have high deductibles and out of pocket costs.
In other words you can bet the insurance co will get that government money from you for nothing.
Esunari on
There is no way this Republican government, who have hated ACA from the beginning because of Obama, would ever give every American the amount of money necessary to purchase a quality insurance plan on their own. The sharks (insurance companies) are smelling the blood in the water and are now planning how to take us all to the cleaners with high costs, no preexisting conditions coverage, co-pays, and deductibles, and less coverage. I can’t believe the Democrats caved.
AcanthisittaNo6653 on
>”Everybody’s gonna be happy. They’re gonna feel like entrepreneurs,”
I can’t imagine being an entrepreneur while the economy crumbles during trump’s regime. It would be better to hide your money in your mattress.
Thin-Competition3018 on
Been in the insurance industry for some time.
So, we can liken his proposal to homeowners for quick problem identity. if we were to have homeowners develop a fund to be used to offset any losses.
Problem with this approach, costs may exceed the fund in the earlier years. And in the event of catastrophic event, the balance would not be able to absorb the cost of a home. So, you will have negative balances, potentially, if not those could even be allowed.
Now, the difference here is that with your car insurance and your HO insurance, the value of the property is the max of the policy, but with HC, have you seen what a transplant costs, or these GLP-1s? Not your copay, not your deductible: COSTS! Breaking an arm may exhaust the fund. Don’t have children and if you have a catastrophic event, which can be more common than you think, this approach is DOOMED!
This solution was developed after a conversation between two toddlers and to say they have no understanding of the problem is simply a misstatement. The man HAS NO CLUE!
cire1184 on
And the 8 democrats that caved still think they got a shot with voting for the extension when Trump wants to ram this through like he would with a teenage beauty pageant contestant? Why the fuck are centrist dems so fucking delusional?
bonafidehooligan on
I got looped around to three different departments, simply trying to get an answer if my plans once a year eye exam falls under medical or optical. I couldn’t imagine the pain and suffering I’d endure to “negotiate” my fucking rates.
Zombull on
His plan is what Republicans plans always are. If you’re rich, you’ll be fine. If you’re poor, don’t get sick. If you get sick, die quickly.
LostBob on
Wow! I can negotiate with insurance companies myself? That’ll be so awesome.
Me: Hi, I’d like to negotiate better rates.
Insurance: No.
JoeFTPgamerIOS on
It doesn’t matter how bad it is. It’s going to pass easier than the ACA even if there actually are death panels included. Not hyperbole, literal rules for how the team for the literal death panels will be formed and how they are to vote.
The_Frostweaver on
Republicans give 3 billion a year to israel, they have universal healthcare
Republicans give 40 billion to argentina, they have universal health care
Republicans when americans ask for universal healthcare: THAT’S SOCIALISM! WE CAN’T AFFORD IT!
Republicans: hand 1 trillion dollars in tax breaks to rich companies and richest 1%
Average american voter: immigrants and brown people took my job and my healthcare, thats what the fair and balanced fox news and facebook told me!
may1nster on
What if… now hold on… we all paid into one big pot and then the government gives us health insurance that is good anywhere in the US? Damn, maybe it could work.
OrbeaSeven on
Can you imagine elderly or persons with disabilities negotiating for health care? Children with disabilities?
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Lol. “Trump’s” plan?
Can we start assigning the real names behind every legislation?
*“Call it Trumpcare, call it whatever you want to call it. Anything but Obamacare. Obamacare is a disaster, just like he was as a president,”*
Such a petty little bitch.
That’s not even a healthcare plan.
>As the government shutdown begins to wind down, with some Democrats backing off their bid to extend subsidies under the Affordable Care Act, the president has started waxing on about his own vision for a new system of American health care.
>“I want instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into an account for people, where the people buy their own health insurance. It’s so good. The insurance will be better. It’ll cost less. Everybody’s gonna be happy. They’re gonna feel like entrepreneurs,” Trump said during a Fox News interview Monday night. “They’re actually gonna be able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance. And they can use it only for that reason, that’s the beauty—only for that purpose.
>…
>“This is, unsurprisingly, nonsensical. Is he suggesting eliminating health insurance and giving people a few thousand dollars instead? And then when they get a cancer diagnosis they just go bankrupt?” Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy wrote on X Sunday.
>Currently, Obamacare enrollees never see the funds from their tax credits, which instead are sent directly to insurers. Trump figures that consumers would rather see the money themselves, what little of it there is. His plan purports to take the burden of negotiating insurance rates away from health care providers and large companies, and place it on individuals.
wow, Trump would’ve loved the Wild West. I mean that’s what he’s proposing at least.
So a marketplace where you directly negotiate with the insurance company? Sounds like you’d have more leverage if you could join with others in a marketplace that spread the risk across more policies… Wait, that sounds familiar
“I want instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into an account for people, where the people buy their own health insurance. It’s so good. The insurance will be better. It’ll cost less. Everybody’s gonna be happy. They’re gonna feel like entrepreneurs,” Trump said during a Fox News interview Monday night. “They’re actually gonna be able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance. And they can use it only for that reason, that’s the beauty—only for that purpose.”
No insurance company is gonna “negotiate” with Bill from fucking Montana on what healthcare insurance rates he gets. Companies will charge whatever high prices they want and people will like it
From the article:
>“I want instead of going to the insurance companies, I want the money to go into an account for people, where the people buy their own health insurance. It’s so good. The insurance will be better. It’ll cost less. Everybody’s gonna be happy. They’re gonna feel like entrepreneurs,” Trump [said](https://x.com/atrupar/status/1988035966632599763?s=20) during a Fox News interview Monday night. “They’re actually gonna be able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance. And they can use it only for that reason, that’s the beauty—only for that purpose.
We want to be healthy – not feel freaking stressed like an entrepreneur.
Old man Trump is delusional.
universal healthcare please
My employers health plan went up 60%, and the dental plan went up 200%.
Fuck the whole system. Let it burn.
Trump’s plans to increase likeability are giving people money from the government. A thing that any other time conservatives scream about and how it’s about buying votes. Not that consistency is any part of conservatism.
Johnson was on Fox this morning talking about their healthcare plan, and he said “We’ve got notebooks full of ideas.” 🤦🏻♀️
I think an audacious group of Democrats should seize on this moment, and make overtures to Trump about implementing a public option to compete with these “greedy insurance companies”. We’ll call it the Donald J Trump Premium USA Gold Patriot Plan.
Since we’re stuck with the sonofabitch, I don’t why more Democrats don’t make appeals to Trump’s vanity to get concessions. Try something new. 🤷♂️
“It’s gonna cost less.”
– proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump has no clue how health insurance companies price their plans.
IDK, has anyone thought of going to one of the 36 out of 37 other developed nations on the planet and ask how they do it?
I mean since they’ve all had it for decades and we still haven’t figured it out…
It should be called the “We’re Pretending We Care (but we don’t really) Act”
We know what the solution is. It’s universal healthcare but the billionaire and opulent class are preventing this. So many of the problems and hardships in this country, the richest country in human history, would be solved by this. It would have positive effects on society that would reverberate for generations. For profit healthcare in the richest country on Earth is cruel and barbaric.
>person: let me negotiate my healthcare plan!
>insurance company: lol get fucked. here’s your option
Geez, every “idea” this guy has includes extra steps which adds costs.
He talks like a 5 year old. His plan isn’t even at that level though.
No doubt the insurance companies would offer some base plan not worth shit that would cost whatever subsidy you receive from the government and then price gouge “upgrades “ that would still have high deductibles and out of pocket costs.
In other words you can bet the insurance co will get that government money from you for nothing.
There is no way this Republican government, who have hated ACA from the beginning because of Obama, would ever give every American the amount of money necessary to purchase a quality insurance plan on their own. The sharks (insurance companies) are smelling the blood in the water and are now planning how to take us all to the cleaners with high costs, no preexisting conditions coverage, co-pays, and deductibles, and less coverage. I can’t believe the Democrats caved.
>”Everybody’s gonna be happy. They’re gonna feel like entrepreneurs,”
I can’t imagine being an entrepreneur while the economy crumbles during trump’s regime. It would be better to hide your money in your mattress.
Been in the insurance industry for some time.
So, we can liken his proposal to homeowners for quick problem identity. if we were to have homeowners develop a fund to be used to offset any losses.
Problem with this approach, costs may exceed the fund in the earlier years. And in the event of catastrophic event, the balance would not be able to absorb the cost of a home. So, you will have negative balances, potentially, if not those could even be allowed.
Now, the difference here is that with your car insurance and your HO insurance, the value of the property is the max of the policy, but with HC, have you seen what a transplant costs, or these GLP-1s? Not your copay, not your deductible: COSTS! Breaking an arm may exhaust the fund. Don’t have children and if you have a catastrophic event, which can be more common than you think, this approach is DOOMED!
This solution was developed after a conversation between two toddlers and to say they have no understanding of the problem is simply a misstatement. The man HAS NO CLUE!
And the 8 democrats that caved still think they got a shot with voting for the extension when Trump wants to ram this through like he would with a teenage beauty pageant contestant? Why the fuck are centrist dems so fucking delusional?
I got looped around to three different departments, simply trying to get an answer if my plans once a year eye exam falls under medical or optical. I couldn’t imagine the pain and suffering I’d endure to “negotiate” my fucking rates.
His plan is what Republicans plans always are. If you’re rich, you’ll be fine. If you’re poor, don’t get sick. If you get sick, die quickly.
Wow! I can negotiate with insurance companies myself? That’ll be so awesome.
Me: Hi, I’d like to negotiate better rates.
Insurance: No.
It doesn’t matter how bad it is. It’s going to pass easier than the ACA even if there actually are death panels included. Not hyperbole, literal rules for how the team for the literal death panels will be formed and how they are to vote.
Republicans give 3 billion a year to israel, they have universal healthcare
Republicans give 40 billion to argentina, they have universal health care
Republicans when americans ask for universal healthcare: THAT’S SOCIALISM! WE CAN’T AFFORD IT!
Republicans: hand 1 trillion dollars in tax breaks to rich companies and richest 1%
Average american voter: immigrants and brown people took my job and my healthcare, thats what the fair and balanced fox news and facebook told me!
What if… now hold on… we all paid into one big pot and then the government gives us health insurance that is good anywhere in the US? Damn, maybe it could work.
Can you imagine elderly or persons with disabilities negotiating for health care? Children with disabilities?