> Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Wednesday called out Senate Democrats as a whole after eight lawmakers sided with Republicans on a deal to reopen the government.
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> Ocasio-Cortez told reporters that blame for the situation extends beyond Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who met a heap of criticism from other Democrats over the deal’s passage.
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> “There’s a lot of focus rightfully on Leader Schumer, but I do think that when it comes to the Senate, it is Senate Democrats that select their leadership,” Ocasio-Cortez told Politico. “And so I actually think this problem is much bigger than Leader Schumer.”
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> She added that the Senate failed “to develop, to deliver on health care subsidies.”
Keikobad on
An AOC primary challenge to Schumer will be interesting to see, if it happens
reddittorbrigade on
Democrats need YOUNGER leaders like AOC and Mamdani.
They asked Biden to resign because of old age, about time for them like Chuck to do the same.
WorkingRecording4863 on
Schumer may not have been the problem, but he’s absolutely a symptom of the problem. These boomers who folded are out of touch with the needs of the struggling younger generations. Stop electing old people.
KAY-toe on
This is what happens when you don’t have a majority, if it didn’t end this way they would’ve lost some other way. She’s certainly right that the problem is much bigger than Schumer, but pointing out that Senate Dems select their leadership misses the more important fact that voters elect Senators, and until very recently Dems have not been successful at winning over voters.
ThisOneGoesElven on
How much bigger? Like 6’6″? Does it wear a hoodie? Did it have a stroke and then turn right-wing? Is it from Pennsylvania?
captcha_trampstamp on
I cannot wait to see her get out in front and finally shake off the people holding the Dems back. We have so much fresh and youthful energy and they have utterly squandered it by trying to play both sides.
LuigiTheTweak_eth on
The Senate has become nothing more than an extension of the House but with a parliamentarian gimmicks like the filibuster meant to give the appearance of higher thinking but ultimately after multiple decades of failing to deliver legislation that would actually help the American public voters are finally waking up to the fact that Senate leadership stinks.
Reminder: no where in the constitution does it mention Senate majority/minority leaders as it’s a made up position to infest Senate decorum with petty politics reminiscent of the House of Representatives. Party caucuses were never meant to have so much control in the higher chamber…
ginbear on
Dick Durbin is the minority whip. He needs to be removed from that position.
Tim Kaine is the ranking member of two subcommittees. He needs to be removed from those positions.
Chuck Schumer as minority leader is doing none of that. He needs to be removed from that position.
That’s the minimum
TheRagingAmish on
Democrats have a major systemic emphasis as a party on seniority. That has become a problem ever since people started living into their 90s and the boomers started entering retirement age.
Inevitably experience means age. Without representation from members under 50, the party has become frustratingly out of touch to generations who came of age AFTER the housing crisis.
Cheddar-Goblin-1312 on
Democrats are a dying, if not dead, party.
Hungry-External-7812 on
The problem is… It only takes one senator to call for a vote to remove schmuck Schumer and not a one will do it. I love my senator Elizabeth Warren but even she won’t buck the system. Not a one will come out and say what really happened, that corporate donors influenced them to capitulate.
We’ve seen this tactic many times over decades, where they offer up a sacrificial lamb whose retiring or not up for reelection so they can deprive us of consequential social legislation.
Remember Build Back Better? When it was Joe Manchin gumming up the works. Parental leave and free community college and such. Nothing we could do about that either, only there was, they had leverage against him and chose not to use it. Heather Bresch his daughter was implicated in the epipen scandal in which she colluded with phizer to create a monopoly and split the profits. She could have been indicted, should have been regardless but it could have been used against Manchin had they really wanted to get him onboard. ( Btw, she resigned from Mylan with a $30 million golden parachute).
We’ve been betrayed and duped again. They claim they’re fighting for our democracy and ask us to take to the streets. Give inspiring public speeches but behind closed doors when the lobbyists tell them their bill is due, they surrender.
It’s a big club, and we ain’t in it. (George Carlin)
Google it.
rysker6 on
We need healthcare like other first world countries
1. Simple to navigate
2. No HMO PPO C-3PO
3. No deductible
4. No medical debt
We are the richest country in the world. How republicans convinced people that universal healthcare is satanic socialism is insane
Vegetable-Error-2068 on
Vote Blue No Matter Who directly led to a Congress full of cowards and appeasers.
Why wouldn’t it? What did people think would happen when they threatened and brow-beat everyone into abandoning all standards for their politicians?
Have standards. Withhold your vote and your money from cowards and appeasers.
16ozbuddz on
Shes playing the long game, she didn’t take the bait
IFHelper on
If she’s not getting ready for a Senate run, I’d be surprised.
I’d love to see a progressive take NY.
IJourden on
She’s not wrong. So much of the focus is on the eight who flipped But they are just the tip of the iceberg. They weren’t eight senators who decided to flip, they were the eight specifically chosen because they are the most insulated from consequences.
The rot runs deep among senate Democrats.
TheDwellingHeart on
Standing against fascism should be within their nature. It clearly is not.
TheMoorNextDoor on
Democratic House vs Democratic Senate. I love it.
If AOC is going to primary him at least let Ro Khanna or Cory Booker be the leaders of the Democratic Party. Booker isn’t perfect but I don’t believe he would’ve allowed them to cave either.
If the dems were truly smart at this point after concocting this fraud of a plan they would’ve had Chuck resign already as a way to appease the party followers but of course, the average man/woman doesn’t matter in their eyes, the corporate overlords is the most important thing overall.
Oceanbreeze871 on
From what i understand the deal was brokered by an 81 yr old independent whose seat is safe until 2030 snd several retiring senators. They are all on record as all take huge lobbyist donations from the Airline industry.
Lobbyist favors were called in and they issued orders.
GeneralOptimal10 on
I don’t get the Schumer hate.
Trump was not going to budge. He still doesn’t want to fund SNAP and we know he doesn’t care about Federal workers.
The Democrats didn’t have the vote and had no leverage. They thought the country would demand that SNAP be funded, but nobody gave a shit.
The last polls I saw said that only 42% of Americans blamed the GOP for the shutdown. The Democrats had a crap hand and folded.
NonesuchAndSuch77 on
Schumer can be forced out as minority lead, and the process isn’t insurmountable (10 votes to call the meeting, get a nominee, 24 votes to oust Schumer). She’s correct that Schumer isn’t the sole problem, but throwing him on his own sword would be a good start (followed immediately by consequences of some kind for the eight collaborators in the Senate and six in the House).
Impossible_Plate_348 on
She sees an opening to help the progressive side of her party. All of the Democratic Party is responsible for the aca loss of subsidies. Elections have consequences. What those senators did is put country before power
Tekhnology on
Schumer opposed ending the shutdown. This isn’t his fault at all. Also, ending the shutdown is getting us the Epstein files released, which is what everyone her wanted, right? The shutdown itself was causing more damage than the lack of healthcare subsidies. Thousands of people were getting furloughed or laid off and losing their healthcare coverage, or being forced to work with no pay. Is that what the progressive movement wants? I thought they were all about socialism and public service, but shutting down the government is the opposite of that.
All of this was orchestrated by the Republicans, but the progressive movement has found their scapegoat. The progressive movement constantly demonizes the Democratic party and ends up helping the Republicans. Sometimes I wonder whether the progressives are actually there to implement progressive ideals or just to sabotage the Democratic party on behalf of Russia in order to help the Republicans (also Russia’s friends). There are many signs that the progressive movement is inauthentic and doesn’t really believe in progressive ideology. It seems like a movement controlled by Russia, because they always end up supporting policies that help Russia or its allies (which include the Republican party, Iran, Hamas, etc). For example, they want to lower the US defense budget and defund US allies at a time when Russia, China and Iran are attacking or preparing to attack our allies. I don’t trust the progressive movement. I think they’re pretending to be progressive just to get votes and donations, but when in power support non-progressive policies and movements.
seanisdown on
This is basically what Bernie said when asked about replacing Chuck. Replace him with who? One of the other 40 conservative democrat senators?
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A bit from the article:
> Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) on Wednesday called out Senate Democrats as a whole after eight lawmakers sided with Republicans on a deal to reopen the government.
>
> Ocasio-Cortez told reporters that blame for the situation extends beyond Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who met a heap of criticism from other Democrats over the deal’s passage.
>
> “There’s a lot of focus rightfully on Leader Schumer, but I do think that when it comes to the Senate, it is Senate Democrats that select their leadership,” Ocasio-Cortez told Politico. “And so I actually think this problem is much bigger than Leader Schumer.”
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> She added that the Senate failed “to develop, to deliver on health care subsidies.”
An AOC primary challenge to Schumer will be interesting to see, if it happens
Democrats need YOUNGER leaders like AOC and Mamdani.
They asked Biden to resign because of old age, about time for them like Chuck to do the same.
Schumer may not have been the problem, but he’s absolutely a symptom of the problem. These boomers who folded are out of touch with the needs of the struggling younger generations. Stop electing old people.
This is what happens when you don’t have a majority, if it didn’t end this way they would’ve lost some other way. She’s certainly right that the problem is much bigger than Schumer, but pointing out that Senate Dems select their leadership misses the more important fact that voters elect Senators, and until very recently Dems have not been successful at winning over voters.
How much bigger? Like 6’6″? Does it wear a hoodie? Did it have a stroke and then turn right-wing? Is it from Pennsylvania?
I cannot wait to see her get out in front and finally shake off the people holding the Dems back. We have so much fresh and youthful energy and they have utterly squandered it by trying to play both sides.
The Senate has become nothing more than an extension of the House but with a parliamentarian gimmicks like the filibuster meant to give the appearance of higher thinking but ultimately after multiple decades of failing to deliver legislation that would actually help the American public voters are finally waking up to the fact that Senate leadership stinks.
Reminder: no where in the constitution does it mention Senate majority/minority leaders as it’s a made up position to infest Senate decorum with petty politics reminiscent of the House of Representatives. Party caucuses were never meant to have so much control in the higher chamber…
Dick Durbin is the minority whip. He needs to be removed from that position.
Tim Kaine is the ranking member of two subcommittees. He needs to be removed from those positions.
Chuck Schumer as minority leader is doing none of that. He needs to be removed from that position.
That’s the minimum
Democrats have a major systemic emphasis as a party on seniority. That has become a problem ever since people started living into their 90s and the boomers started entering retirement age.
Inevitably experience means age. Without representation from members under 50, the party has become frustratingly out of touch to generations who came of age AFTER the housing crisis.
Democrats are a dying, if not dead, party.
The problem is… It only takes one senator to call for a vote to remove schmuck Schumer and not a one will do it. I love my senator Elizabeth Warren but even she won’t buck the system. Not a one will come out and say what really happened, that corporate donors influenced them to capitulate.
We’ve seen this tactic many times over decades, where they offer up a sacrificial lamb whose retiring or not up for reelection so they can deprive us of consequential social legislation.
Remember Build Back Better? When it was Joe Manchin gumming up the works. Parental leave and free community college and such. Nothing we could do about that either, only there was, they had leverage against him and chose not to use it. Heather Bresch his daughter was implicated in the epipen scandal in which she colluded with phizer to create a monopoly and split the profits. She could have been indicted, should have been regardless but it could have been used against Manchin had they really wanted to get him onboard. ( Btw, she resigned from Mylan with a $30 million golden parachute).
We’ve been betrayed and duped again. They claim they’re fighting for our democracy and ask us to take to the streets. Give inspiring public speeches but behind closed doors when the lobbyists tell them their bill is due, they surrender.
It’s a big club, and we ain’t in it. (George Carlin)
Google it.
We need healthcare like other first world countries
1. Simple to navigate
2. No HMO PPO C-3PO
3. No deductible
4. No medical debt
We are the richest country in the world. How republicans convinced people that universal healthcare is satanic socialism is insane
Vote Blue No Matter Who directly led to a Congress full of cowards and appeasers.
Why wouldn’t it? What did people think would happen when they threatened and brow-beat everyone into abandoning all standards for their politicians?
Have standards. Withhold your vote and your money from cowards and appeasers.
Shes playing the long game, she didn’t take the bait
If she’s not getting ready for a Senate run, I’d be surprised.
I’d love to see a progressive take NY.
She’s not wrong. So much of the focus is on the eight who flipped But they are just the tip of the iceberg. They weren’t eight senators who decided to flip, they were the eight specifically chosen because they are the most insulated from consequences.
The rot runs deep among senate Democrats.
Standing against fascism should be within their nature. It clearly is not.
Democratic House vs Democratic Senate. I love it.
If AOC is going to primary him at least let Ro Khanna or Cory Booker be the leaders of the Democratic Party. Booker isn’t perfect but I don’t believe he would’ve allowed them to cave either.
If the dems were truly smart at this point after concocting this fraud of a plan they would’ve had Chuck resign already as a way to appease the party followers but of course, the average man/woman doesn’t matter in their eyes, the corporate overlords is the most important thing overall.
From what i understand the deal was brokered by an 81 yr old independent whose seat is safe until 2030 snd several retiring senators. They are all on record as all take huge lobbyist donations from the Airline industry.
Lobbyist favors were called in and they issued orders.
I don’t get the Schumer hate.
Trump was not going to budge. He still doesn’t want to fund SNAP and we know he doesn’t care about Federal workers.
The Democrats didn’t have the vote and had no leverage. They thought the country would demand that SNAP be funded, but nobody gave a shit.
The last polls I saw said that only 42% of Americans blamed the GOP for the shutdown. The Democrats had a crap hand and folded.
Schumer can be forced out as minority lead, and the process isn’t insurmountable (10 votes to call the meeting, get a nominee, 24 votes to oust Schumer). She’s correct that Schumer isn’t the sole problem, but throwing him on his own sword would be a good start (followed immediately by consequences of some kind for the eight collaborators in the Senate and six in the House).
She sees an opening to help the progressive side of her party. All of the Democratic Party is responsible for the aca loss of subsidies. Elections have consequences. What those senators did is put country before power
Schumer opposed ending the shutdown. This isn’t his fault at all. Also, ending the shutdown is getting us the Epstein files released, which is what everyone her wanted, right? The shutdown itself was causing more damage than the lack of healthcare subsidies. Thousands of people were getting furloughed or laid off and losing their healthcare coverage, or being forced to work with no pay. Is that what the progressive movement wants? I thought they were all about socialism and public service, but shutting down the government is the opposite of that.
All of this was orchestrated by the Republicans, but the progressive movement has found their scapegoat. The progressive movement constantly demonizes the Democratic party and ends up helping the Republicans. Sometimes I wonder whether the progressives are actually there to implement progressive ideals or just to sabotage the Democratic party on behalf of Russia in order to help the Republicans (also Russia’s friends). There are many signs that the progressive movement is inauthentic and doesn’t really believe in progressive ideology. It seems like a movement controlled by Russia, because they always end up supporting policies that help Russia or its allies (which include the Republican party, Iran, Hamas, etc). For example, they want to lower the US defense budget and defund US allies at a time when Russia, China and Iran are attacking or preparing to attack our allies. I don’t trust the progressive movement. I think they’re pretending to be progressive just to get votes and donations, but when in power support non-progressive policies and movements.
This is basically what Bernie said when asked about replacing Chuck. Replace him with who? One of the other 40 conservative democrat senators?