Good. Giving Russia everything they want is not a “peace deal”.
FaithlessnessDull336 on
The EU will have to sit down and take the D sooner or later. Not because I support Russia, but because EU is struggling to support their own country each. They ain’t supporting Ukraine for shit, just thought and prayer 🙏
Chrono_Convoy on
Nor should they
NoUnderstanding2291 on
Good. It’s likely not a good deal for anyone but russia
mischief_scallywag on
And why does US dictate what Ukraine should and shouldn’t do? Whats EU doing?
Prestigious-Car-4877 on
It’s basically just a surrender. What’s the point of this “deal”? It’s not a deal when you freeze out one of the two combatants anyway.
MightyTaur on
These are not US boardes, so Trump should stop trying to give away land that is not his to give, or Putins to take.
Nor31 on
How can Trump even suggest this deal? Wtf?
D-MAN-FLORIDA on
The EU needs to tell Donnie to stop acting like Chamberlain.
ddkAh1 on
That’s a deal and deals are compromises. Von der Leyen is not even powerful enough to make deals to Russia, because not even every country in Europe is behind the same strategy.
And Ukraine is losing more and more territories.
Without the US, Europe is not even capable of continuing to supply weapons and upgrade their own military.
I think it is a good deal for US and for Russia, but not for Ukraine or Europe if you look at territories.
But it will lead to a stop of the war and laws which prohibit new aggressions. And that’s what we need and what I like.
Russia is in full war mode, with massive weapons factories and a population which supports this war. You also need consider this.
IceAndRecordBreaker on
The capitulation proposal. Putin’s puppet is back at it again.
alec83 on
What worries me, this is a stalling tactic by Russia or would look for a smaller target
hotweiss on
Let’s offer the US a US-Venezuela deal where the US doesn’t attack Venezuela…
Western-Corner-431 on
Good.
Fastluck83 on
Yeah, sorry, but we Europeans are kinda having a hard time framing your betrayal as some hot shit.
Try again, piggy.
wannacumnbeatmeoff on
I’m starting to think that Zelensky would be better served by doing deals with China at this point.
The only “security guarantee” would be the risk of the US imposing sanctions on Russia and Russian oil again… Which basically means nothing. Those sanctions are in place now and the war is raging unabated.
This “peace deal” is obviously written by the Russians and won’t go anywhere.
Also, for all the bots whining about how Ukraine must accept “reality”… If the West is willing to accept a little bit of pain, our capacity to inflict pain on Russia is basically infinite. For example, [Perun did a video early in the war talking about this](https://youtu.be/aEpk_yGjn0E?t=1321). Basically, NATOs economy is 28x the size of Russias. If we spent as much on defence as during the Cold War *our defence expenditure alone* would dwarf the entire GDP of Russia.
Taodaching on
Good. Ridiculous.
chaz4224 on
Thats funny Trump has no say in this, is Putins nick name bubba
Negative-Departure-1 on
And what are they going to do about it?
jcrestor on
We would be lobotomized crack monkeys to accept the forced surrender of Ukraine and the opening up of an easy avenue of annexation of the whole country.
local6962 on
imagine looking at those demands, and saying: “yea, this seems good”
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Good. Giving Russia everything they want is not a “peace deal”.
The EU will have to sit down and take the D sooner or later. Not because I support Russia, but because EU is struggling to support their own country each. They ain’t supporting Ukraine for shit, just thought and prayer 🙏
Nor should they
Good. It’s likely not a good deal for anyone but russia
And why does US dictate what Ukraine should and shouldn’t do? Whats EU doing?
It’s basically just a surrender. What’s the point of this “deal”? It’s not a deal when you freeze out one of the two combatants anyway.
These are not US boardes, so Trump should stop trying to give away land that is not his to give, or Putins to take.
How can Trump even suggest this deal? Wtf?
The EU needs to tell Donnie to stop acting like Chamberlain.
That’s a deal and deals are compromises. Von der Leyen is not even powerful enough to make deals to Russia, because not even every country in Europe is behind the same strategy.
And Ukraine is losing more and more territories.
Without the US, Europe is not even capable of continuing to supply weapons and upgrade their own military.
I think it is a good deal for US and for Russia, but not for Ukraine or Europe if you look at territories.
But it will lead to a stop of the war and laws which prohibit new aggressions. And that’s what we need and what I like.
Russia is in full war mode, with massive weapons factories and a population which supports this war. You also need consider this.
The capitulation proposal. Putin’s puppet is back at it again.
What worries me, this is a stalling tactic by Russia or would look for a smaller target
Let’s offer the US a US-Venezuela deal where the US doesn’t attack Venezuela…
Good.
Yeah, sorry, but we Europeans are kinda having a hard time framing your betrayal as some hot shit.
Try again, piggy.
I’m starting to think that Zelensky would be better served by doing deals with China at this point.
One of the points, [according to The Telegraph](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/11/20/revealed-trump-and-putins-28-point-peace-plan-for-ukraine/), requires NATO to not accept *any* new members. Ever. I.e. Austria, Ireland, Bosnia and Herzegovina among others won’t be ever allowed to join.
The only “security guarantee” would be the risk of the US imposing sanctions on Russia and Russian oil again… Which basically means nothing. Those sanctions are in place now and the war is raging unabated.
This “peace deal” is obviously written by the Russians and won’t go anywhere.
Also, for all the bots whining about how Ukraine must accept “reality”… If the West is willing to accept a little bit of pain, our capacity to inflict pain on Russia is basically infinite. For example, [Perun did a video early in the war talking about this](https://youtu.be/aEpk_yGjn0E?t=1321). Basically, NATOs economy is 28x the size of Russias. If we spent as much on defence as during the Cold War *our defence expenditure alone* would dwarf the entire GDP of Russia.
Good. Ridiculous.
Thats funny Trump has no say in this, is Putins nick name bubba
And what are they going to do about it?
We would be lobotomized crack monkeys to accept the forced surrender of Ukraine and the opening up of an easy avenue of annexation of the whole country.
imagine looking at those demands, and saying: “yea, this seems good”