I’m not a lawyer, but I always thought kidnapping people was illegal in this country.
Historical_Bend_2629 on
Pretty sure the question has been asked and answered, on various fronts, for many, many years. The answer from Republicans congress, in 2020, was yes, and we are o.k. with it. Emoluments, Hatch, pardoning power, seeking self-enrichment through the power of the office, rape, fraud.
The really big thing is trying to overturn an election. But they all count as articles of impeachment.
Nobody “blew a question wide open.”
SwvellyBents on
I think the summary execution of foreign nationals in international waters without due process qualifies as an illegal order.
Spottswoodeforgod on
FFS – Is Trump Giving Illegal Orders? Is Trump a rapist? Is trump a conman? Is Trump stupid? Yes, the answer is always yes.
Xalazi on
How many orders have been overturned by the courts already? Many.
TopHighway7425 on
Only according to every circuit court judge and appeals court judges and defense attorneys and 80 million citizens. These are illegal orders by fact and by conscience. They are seditious injuries against humanity. The administration has no moral defense.
Do not equivocate when it comes to existential threats. Defend yourself and then explain yourself later. In a fascism the only thing that matters is political bias . Trust your instincts. The media and the administration need obedient victims so their entire campaign will be designed to make you question your right to life and liberty, which are inalienable.
Predators always rely on hesitation in their victims. Do not hesitate. If it looks like a genocidal fascism murdering and kidnapping then it is exactly that . Act decisively. Get organized.
MJcorrieviewer on
Pretty sure it’s not legal to blow up boats off the coast of the Venezuela, even if they are drug smugglers.
literallytwisted on
Yes using the military to attack civilians is the very definition of an illegal order, It really doesn’t even matter if they are smuggling drugs as they are still civilians.
Its no different than hitting a car thief in another country with a cruise missile, There is no justification and it is murder which is actually a worse crime than smuggling drugs.
And I am so sick of the “war on drugs” perpetuated by country where liquor is available to every adult.
Mr_Magoo1969 on
His troop deployments to US cities, not to mention his extrajudicial executions in international waters are *all* unquestionably illegal.
CrabMasc on
he famously loves following the law
ElysiumSprouts on
It would be bold to assume he hasn’t already given illegal orders.
Why else would there be this outrage?
West_Boot7246 on
The question is, when has he done anything legal?
hopefeedsthespirit on
Yes, yes and yes again.
Negative_Gravitas on
It. Was. NEVER. A. Question.
Jesus Christ.
Mr_Meng on
The real question isn’t ‘is Trump giving illegal orders?’ the real question is ‘who’s going to stop him if the courts and congress won’t hold him accountable?’.
bananastand512 on
I’m no scholar, but repeatedly bombing foreign boats in foreign waters because you *suspect* they are drug traffickers (which isn’t even a crime punishable by death as far as I’m aware) sounds highly illegal.
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p0rty-Boi on
Start building a big ass jail right now. We’re gonna need it.
DixonButz on
Donald Trump is disqualified from holding public office under the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution, so any order he gives is an unlawful order.
CMG30 on
Pretty sure issuing an order to blow up a random boat in international waters is illegal.
outdoor19170 on
Always has
128-NotePolyVA on
What can be done? This Scotus plainly stated that this president, not any before him and unlikely any after him, has a broad immunity for actions taken as related to the job of being president. That decision alone was a blank check for Trump to do whatever he likes.
Variable_Change on
Can Trump order an Administration wide pardon so none of his current cabinet members would face any charges for his term?
Jetta5371 on
attacking civilians in the ocean without congressional approval is already illegal.
bleat_bleat_bleat on
He did blow Bubba
Coconutrugby on
Why don’t we ask Leavitt if somehow she upset trump and he decided to use a drone to tomahawk missile her car on the way home from work would be a lawful order?
dumbTroll420 on
How dare the other branches try to balance the president… big trash
clickmagnet on
I thought that disgusting sea hag (with respect) Leavitt blew it open when she asserted that *all* Trump administration orders were legal. If that were the case, what’s the big deal? The ad was just telling soldiers to disobey orders that were illegal, and hence they were orders from Democrats, by definition. Yet Trump is losing so much shit they’ll bury him in a matchbox. Why? Does he not *realize* all his orders are legal? Or is pinched-faced grandpa fucker (with respect) counting on everyone to be as thudfuck stupid as her boss is?
diverareyouokay on
According to Leavitt yesterday, *any* order the president gives is inherently lawful.
In other words, a president’s order cannot be considered illegal regardless of the substance of that order.
I wish I was making this up.
m1j2p3 on
Murdering civilians at sea is a war crime and thus 100% illegal. There is no wiggle room there. Even if you’re 100% certain they are drug smugglers you still need to arrest them and give them due process.
Fascists don’t care about following the law because in their twisted minds the law is what they say it is.
Let’s hope these fools are held accountable.
TheGardenBlinked on
I think the right question is has he done anything legal, period? Beyond wearing clothes in public
ezoobeson_drunk on
As a 34 time convicted felon, you’d think he would know what was illegal and what isn’t.
snakelygiggles on
remember when “im saying when the president does it its not illegal!” was a big enough statement that it tanked a president?
S_A_R_K on
For ancient astronaut theorists, the answer is a resounding YES
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I guess that depends on whether murder is legal.
Yes
I’m not a lawyer, but I always thought kidnapping people was illegal in this country.
Pretty sure the question has been asked and answered, on various fronts, for many, many years. The answer from Republicans congress, in 2020, was yes, and we are o.k. with it. Emoluments, Hatch, pardoning power, seeking self-enrichment through the power of the office, rape, fraud.
The really big thing is trying to overturn an election. But they all count as articles of impeachment.
Nobody “blew a question wide open.”
I think the summary execution of foreign nationals in international waters without due process qualifies as an illegal order.
FFS – Is Trump Giving Illegal Orders? Is Trump a rapist? Is trump a conman? Is Trump stupid? Yes, the answer is always yes.
How many orders have been overturned by the courts already? Many.
Only according to every circuit court judge and appeals court judges and defense attorneys and 80 million citizens. These are illegal orders by fact and by conscience. They are seditious injuries against humanity. The administration has no moral defense.
Do not equivocate when it comes to existential threats. Defend yourself and then explain yourself later. In a fascism the only thing that matters is political bias . Trust your instincts. The media and the administration need obedient victims so their entire campaign will be designed to make you question your right to life and liberty, which are inalienable.
Predators always rely on hesitation in their victims. Do not hesitate. If it looks like a genocidal fascism murdering and kidnapping then it is exactly that . Act decisively. Get organized.
Pretty sure it’s not legal to blow up boats off the coast of the Venezuela, even if they are drug smugglers.
Yes using the military to attack civilians is the very definition of an illegal order, It really doesn’t even matter if they are smuggling drugs as they are still civilians.
Its no different than hitting a car thief in another country with a cruise missile, There is no justification and it is murder which is actually a worse crime than smuggling drugs.
And I am so sick of the “war on drugs” perpetuated by country where liquor is available to every adult.
His troop deployments to US cities, not to mention his extrajudicial executions in international waters are *all* unquestionably illegal.
he famously loves following the law
It would be bold to assume he hasn’t already given illegal orders.
Why else would there be this outrage?
The question is, when has he done anything legal?
Yes, yes and yes again.
It. Was. NEVER. A. Question.
Jesus Christ.
The real question isn’t ‘is Trump giving illegal orders?’ the real question is ‘who’s going to stop him if the courts and congress won’t hold him accountable?’.
I’m no scholar, but repeatedly bombing foreign boats in foreign waters because you *suspect* they are drug traffickers (which isn’t even a crime punishable by death as far as I’m aware) sounds highly illegal.
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Start building a big ass jail right now. We’re gonna need it.
Donald Trump is disqualified from holding public office under the 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution, so any order he gives is an unlawful order.
Pretty sure issuing an order to blow up a random boat in international waters is illegal.
Always has
What can be done? This Scotus plainly stated that this president, not any before him and unlikely any after him, has a broad immunity for actions taken as related to the job of being president. That decision alone was a blank check for Trump to do whatever he likes.
Can Trump order an Administration wide pardon so none of his current cabinet members would face any charges for his term?
attacking civilians in the ocean without congressional approval is already illegal.
He did blow Bubba
Why don’t we ask Leavitt if somehow she upset trump and he decided to use a drone to tomahawk missile her car on the way home from work would be a lawful order?
How dare the other branches try to balance the president… big trash
I thought that disgusting sea hag (with respect) Leavitt blew it open when she asserted that *all* Trump administration orders were legal. If that were the case, what’s the big deal? The ad was just telling soldiers to disobey orders that were illegal, and hence they were orders from Democrats, by definition. Yet Trump is losing so much shit they’ll bury him in a matchbox. Why? Does he not *realize* all his orders are legal? Or is pinched-faced grandpa fucker (with respect) counting on everyone to be as thudfuck stupid as her boss is?
According to Leavitt yesterday, *any* order the president gives is inherently lawful.
In other words, a president’s order cannot be considered illegal regardless of the substance of that order.
I wish I was making this up.
Murdering civilians at sea is a war crime and thus 100% illegal. There is no wiggle room there. Even if you’re 100% certain they are drug smugglers you still need to arrest them and give them due process.
Fascists don’t care about following the law because in their twisted minds the law is what they say it is.
Let’s hope these fools are held accountable.
I think the right question is has he done anything legal, period? Beyond wearing clothes in public
As a 34 time convicted felon, you’d think he would know what was illegal and what isn’t.
remember when “im saying when the president does it its not illegal!” was a big enough statement that it tanked a president?
For ancient astronaut theorists, the answer is a resounding YES