So WTF was the shutdown about? Fucking clown show…
NamelessResearcher on
Yeah, it turns out that the majority of subjects who live under your rule will be pissed off if you start taking away their healthcare benefits. Who would have guessed?
unital_subalgebra on
It’s honestly baffling, if Trump was willing to extend ACA credits in the first place, why did he cause millions to worry about missing their SNAP payments and force over a million federal employees to miss their paychecks? If he was open to meeting Democrats’ demands on ACA credits, why the fuck didn’t he just do that in the first place?
THE-LORD-RETURNS on
The dumbest president and administration ever.
Romano16 on
And just like that the Democrats now can pin the shutdown back on Trump.
Man, I don’t mean to both sides this but both sides political speaking are short sighted and just.. dumb
-CJF- on
An extension with new limitations on who is eligible for the subsidies, elimination of $0 premiums and a provision that says “anyone who downgrades their coverage under the new proposals would see the difference in costs distributed to a “Health Savings Account” provided with taxpayer dollars.”
So it’s an extension with some minor tweaks to make it look like they had a genuine reason for blocking the extension in the first place. 🤦♂️
WhiteSpots on
not sure if dems won exactly but it sure makes repubs look stupid
monkeywithgun on
>two years…
Strategically positioning it for use as a political football for the next presidential campaign
danceswithporn on
>The president could unveil his new proposal as early as Monday … presenting a new healthcare framework and calling on Congress to send a bill to the Oval Office for his signature as soon as possible.
He’s still in the “concepts of a plan” stage.
InfinityComplexxx on
So the GOP shut the country down for nothing.
Also, Trump & Co. have been in panic mode since the recent elections, so this is probably a result of that. Still baffling, though, how they thought the GOP brand *wasn’t* ruined, and needed the recent elections as proof. Trump doesn’t care about the rest of the GOp, but someone is forcing him to do this.
omerome83 on
This POS administration ruined millions of people’s lives for over 40 days of shutdown, just to give them what the Democrats were asking for from the very beginning.
Squeekydink on
Too bad my insurance already doubled for next year. I’m happy for those under ACA though.
WetFinsFine on
ACA works better than anything this current two bit dog n pony show can drum up
The congressional stalemate (shutdown) that lasted as long as it did? that was in order to scrub the Epstein files prior to the vote to release them which they knew was coming down the pike
my 2 cents.
AcanthisittaNo6653 on
That was the deal schumer offered during the shutdown, not that trump shouldn’t take full credit of course..
centexgoodguy on
The Rs said, time and time again, that the Dems wanted the extensions to pay for the healthcare of illegals and trans people.
debugprint on
So his healthcare plan is now to extend the ACA?
Brilliant leadership /s.
PracticalChipmunk789 on
So now extending the ACA subsidies is suddenly “his plan?”
Specialist-Bug1592 on
See here’s the thing. Congress passed the BBB and which did not extend the credits. For them to be extended, Congress must pass a bill, which is in no way guaranteed. There is a pretty high likelihood that a poison pill will be inserted into the bill which will guarantee its failure and Republicans will blame the Democrats.
There is zero intention by the Republicans to actually extend the credits.
hospitallers on
So that’s the vaunted republican plan…to keep Obamacare?
hopefulskeptik on
So let me get this straight, president was unwilling to extend the benefits and have the government shut down for a month and a half. Now the same president is solving a problem that didn’t need to exist that he created a month and a half later. Why the f*** do we have a government if it just creates problems so it can solve it later?
readerf52 on
So, he shut down the government and shut down bipartisan discussion of the ACA extended tax credit for what?
Yes, I know. It was a diversion from Epstein.
But he does crazy shit all the time to divert interest in important stuff, did he have to cause so much economic chaos to stroke his ego?
What a putz.
qdobe on
Why not a title like “Trump bends the knee to Democrat demands to fund ACA tax Credits for two years due to recent polling numbers”?
This outcome is exactly what Democrats wanted and the opposite of what Republicans wanted during the shutdown…like complete opposite. No mention of flip flopping? Come on now…sane washing insane politics.
Like this line really pisses me off:
> President Donald Trump planning intervention to stop expiration of Obamacare subsidies sending insurance premiums skyrocketing for millions of Americans
An intervention wouldn’t be necessary if Trump and the GOP simply never existed in the first place. This intervention is necessary specifically because of Trump and the GOP.
Yarzu89 on
My guess is that he tried to blame the shutdown on the dems, but the longer it went on the more people questioned it, saw the premiums spike for next year and put 2 and 2 together. That and the “its for illegals” thing didn’t work out… I guess blaming immigrants for everything starts to have diminishing returns. So they were then left with fall out from the shutdown as well as fallout from people’s healthcare doubling or more.
nightfall2021 on
I wonder how this will get sold to the Cult?
The GOP has been pounding the drum that the ACA is why their premiums were so high for the last month, and now Agolf Tweetler again just says something that contradicts the party and tosses them for a loop.
Shane606 on
It’s almost like they spent 40 days scrubbing through files and this was all for nothing
Catspaw129 on
Ummm…
Doesn’t congress then have to vote this in?
Or am I having a “silly me” moment?
Nwcray on
Are you shitting me?
Are you fucking shitting me?
This asshat shut down the government for 43 days, causing untold pain and billions of dollars in economic damage, by refusing to ‘compromise’ and stretch these subsidies out for 1 year, so that instead he can single handedly do it for 2 years? So the shutdown wasn’t actually about the subsidies, it was just about hurting people – having a little fun inflicting pain before the holidays?
Are you fucking shitting me?
Xero_space on
Arsonist pisses on housefire he started, demands to be called a hero.
fenderputty on
The GOP has already said this is DOA
Ok_Door_9720 on
Republicans told me that these subsidies are being used to cover Healthcare for undocumented immigrants.
Why would Trump support such a totally-real-and-not-made-up thing?
ohyeahsure11 on
Let’s all sing it together, TACO, TACO, TACO.
sfearing91 on
Great, so why was there a shutdown. Oh right the pedo protectors!
TheInfiniteSlash on
So Democrats are getting what they want?
Democrats snatched defeat from the jaws of victory after ending the shutdown, only for Trump to come along and say “Nah you earns this win?”
What the heck is going in the year 2025?
Gentleman_Villain on
This bullshit was about him getting *credit* wasn’t it?
Fuck the people, fuck the chaos; he gets to have people say what a “great man” he is for the “help” he’s given.
Zickened on
Completely on brand for Trump.
Someone wants to do something that’s a good thing, Trump shuts it down.
15 minutes later, Trump announces a good thing as something he’s spearheading so that people can look and say, “thank you so much Mr. Trump! What a great idea!”
From what I was reading in a separate article, its part of the reason a lot of Republican Congresspeople want to quit: Trump puts the brakes on anything they are doing or will jump on their idea to take credit for it.
Even_Establishment95 on
So he can take the credit for what Democrats were asking for. Fucking unbelievable piece of shit.
thatirishguyyyyy on
Trump says things and is usually lying.
This would require a bill to go in front of congress. They passed the BBB without the credits.
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So WTF was the shutdown about? Fucking clown show…
Yeah, it turns out that the majority of subjects who live under your rule will be pissed off if you start taking away their healthcare benefits. Who would have guessed?
It’s honestly baffling, if Trump was willing to extend ACA credits in the first place, why did he cause millions to worry about missing their SNAP payments and force over a million federal employees to miss their paychecks? If he was open to meeting Democrats’ demands on ACA credits, why the fuck didn’t he just do that in the first place?
The dumbest president and administration ever.
And just like that the Democrats now can pin the shutdown back on Trump.
Man, I don’t mean to both sides this but both sides political speaking are short sighted and just.. dumb
An extension with new limitations on who is eligible for the subsidies, elimination of $0 premiums and a provision that says “anyone who downgrades their coverage under the new proposals would see the difference in costs distributed to a “Health Savings Account” provided with taxpayer dollars.”
So it’s an extension with some minor tweaks to make it look like they had a genuine reason for blocking the extension in the first place. 🤦♂️
not sure if dems won exactly but it sure makes repubs look stupid
>two years…
Strategically positioning it for use as a political football for the next presidential campaign
>The president could unveil his new proposal as early as Monday … presenting a new healthcare framework and calling on Congress to send a bill to the Oval Office for his signature as soon as possible.
He’s still in the “concepts of a plan” stage.
So the GOP shut the country down for nothing.
Also, Trump & Co. have been in panic mode since the recent elections, so this is probably a result of that. Still baffling, though, how they thought the GOP brand *wasn’t* ruined, and needed the recent elections as proof. Trump doesn’t care about the rest of the GOp, but someone is forcing him to do this.
This POS administration ruined millions of people’s lives for over 40 days of shutdown, just to give them what the Democrats were asking for from the very beginning.
Too bad my insurance already doubled for next year. I’m happy for those under ACA though.
ACA works better than anything this current two bit dog n pony show can drum up
The congressional stalemate (shutdown) that lasted as long as it did? that was in order to scrub the Epstein files prior to the vote to release them which they knew was coming down the pike
my 2 cents.
That was the deal schumer offered during the shutdown, not that trump shouldn’t take full credit of course..
The Rs said, time and time again, that the Dems wanted the extensions to pay for the healthcare of illegals and trans people.
So his healthcare plan is now to extend the ACA?
Brilliant leadership /s.
So now extending the ACA subsidies is suddenly “his plan?”
See here’s the thing. Congress passed the BBB and which did not extend the credits. For them to be extended, Congress must pass a bill, which is in no way guaranteed. There is a pretty high likelihood that a poison pill will be inserted into the bill which will guarantee its failure and Republicans will blame the Democrats.
There is zero intention by the Republicans to actually extend the credits.
So that’s the vaunted republican plan…to keep Obamacare?
So let me get this straight, president was unwilling to extend the benefits and have the government shut down for a month and a half. Now the same president is solving a problem that didn’t need to exist that he created a month and a half later. Why the f*** do we have a government if it just creates problems so it can solve it later?
So, he shut down the government and shut down bipartisan discussion of the ACA extended tax credit for what?
Yes, I know. It was a diversion from Epstein.
But he does crazy shit all the time to divert interest in important stuff, did he have to cause so much economic chaos to stroke his ego?
What a putz.
Why not a title like “Trump bends the knee to Democrat demands to fund ACA tax Credits for two years due to recent polling numbers”?
This outcome is exactly what Democrats wanted and the opposite of what Republicans wanted during the shutdown…like complete opposite. No mention of flip flopping? Come on now…sane washing insane politics.
Like this line really pisses me off:
> President Donald Trump planning intervention to stop expiration of Obamacare subsidies sending insurance premiums skyrocketing for millions of Americans
An intervention wouldn’t be necessary if Trump and the GOP simply never existed in the first place. This intervention is necessary specifically because of Trump and the GOP.
My guess is that he tried to blame the shutdown on the dems, but the longer it went on the more people questioned it, saw the premiums spike for next year and put 2 and 2 together. That and the “its for illegals” thing didn’t work out… I guess blaming immigrants for everything starts to have diminishing returns. So they were then left with fall out from the shutdown as well as fallout from people’s healthcare doubling or more.
I wonder how this will get sold to the Cult?
The GOP has been pounding the drum that the ACA is why their premiums were so high for the last month, and now Agolf Tweetler again just says something that contradicts the party and tosses them for a loop.
It’s almost like they spent 40 days scrubbing through files and this was all for nothing
Ummm…
Doesn’t congress then have to vote this in?
Or am I having a “silly me” moment?
Are you shitting me?
Are you fucking shitting me?
This asshat shut down the government for 43 days, causing untold pain and billions of dollars in economic damage, by refusing to ‘compromise’ and stretch these subsidies out for 1 year, so that instead he can single handedly do it for 2 years? So the shutdown wasn’t actually about the subsidies, it was just about hurting people – having a little fun inflicting pain before the holidays?
Are you fucking shitting me?
Arsonist pisses on housefire he started, demands to be called a hero.
The GOP has already said this is DOA
Republicans told me that these subsidies are being used to cover Healthcare for undocumented immigrants.
Why would Trump support such a totally-real-and-not-made-up thing?
Let’s all sing it together, TACO, TACO, TACO.
Great, so why was there a shutdown. Oh right the pedo protectors!
So Democrats are getting what they want?
Democrats snatched defeat from the jaws of victory after ending the shutdown, only for Trump to come along and say “Nah you earns this win?”
What the heck is going in the year 2025?
This bullshit was about him getting *credit* wasn’t it?
Fuck the people, fuck the chaos; he gets to have people say what a “great man” he is for the “help” he’s given.
Completely on brand for Trump.
Someone wants to do something that’s a good thing, Trump shuts it down.
15 minutes later, Trump announces a good thing as something he’s spearheading so that people can look and say, “thank you so much Mr. Trump! What a great idea!”
From what I was reading in a separate article, its part of the reason a lot of Republican Congresspeople want to quit: Trump puts the brakes on anything they are doing or will jump on their idea to take credit for it.
So he can take the credit for what Democrats were asking for. Fucking unbelievable piece of shit.
Trump says things and is usually lying.
This would require a bill to go in front of congress. They passed the BBB without the credits.
I’ll believe this when i see a bill.