There really is nothing we can do huh? We really are without recourse in any way.
humptydumptyclamchip on
sick shit. this country is fucked.
just1nurse on
There has always been a separate code of justice for rich white men. There should be a single code for all where no one is above the law. Period. Unfortunately SCOTUS disagrees.
Running_From_Zombies on
>The woman, Maria Farmer, has for years said that she had called federal investigators in the summer of 1996, but the F.B.I. had never publicly acknowledged her original report, even to Ms. Farmer. **Some people following the Epstein case had accused her of inventing the story.**
dokikod on
James Comey’s daughter, Maureen, is one of hundreds of prosecutors who have seen the files. She was the lead prosecutor in the case against Ghislaine Maxwell. She secured her conviction in December 2021. Trump fired Comey on July 16, 2025. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out why. Anyone with eyes and a brain already knows Trump is guilty as hell. I feel better knowing the good guys know the truth.
GuerreroUltimo on
I am not shocked. We know this has a lot, and this is a LOT, of wealthy people.
Look, Clinton knew. He showed some of his colors with the Lewinsky shit. But it certainly did not stop there. Would not be shocked if he was all over the Epstein files. Certainly we have seen him with some of the girls. Like it or not that stuff with Lewinsky is only gonna fuel it. Maybe he is innocent but I have my doubts.
And look, we know Trump is heavily involved. We have seen photos and videos of him with some of these women. His entire history of shit like “grabby them by the”, the sick shit about his own daughter, and much more.
So the real deal is why are we not seeing more of this stuff. Well, the answer seems to be that it involves many of the world’s most wealthy. Many of the power figures. The fallout would be huge. British royal family, certainly has deeper ties than just Andrew.
Going to be so many.
And lets look at it politically. Democrats will come down on theirs for this stuff. Republicans? No, they will point fingers and say “But Clinton….” and so on. And I would guess more of them are involved than most would guess. Thing is, most of the ones not involved know they win elections by the ignorance of their voters. How that would likely change in terms of their vote if it was all outed. They would lose seats to the point of Democrats being in full control.
And, just using the ACA, if they did not hurt every piece of Democrat legislation they may never win again. That is, at least, part of their thinking. Had a guy I know who is a former state rep. who is good friends with a few of our federal reps telling me that “If Democrats ever got enough control and can get universal healthcare there is no going back.” And they realize it can be done. Some just view it as bad for reasons. Hell, even had one tell me it would help too many sinners and that we need to be pushing to get GOD back into our country.
I think I view it like a woman I know who was abused, raped, sodomized, and all that as a child. It is worse to be anonymous and let them get away with it. She speaks up now but it is too late. The guys lived their lives wealthy and apparently happily. And they apparently had other victims after. Get up there, give your names, and if the victims are not needing protected from release there is no excuse.
It needs to be said that those like Epstein with access to very powerful men in political office and top security apparatus fields (Mossad, CIA, etc) who are tied to sexual exploitation of girls, young women (and boys) is unfortunately actually quite common and goes back a long ways. We tend to hear or remember the average sex scandals like Russian red sparrow honeypots, which the tabloids will cover endlessly until someone’s forced to step down or be fired. Like the famous Profumo affair in England in the 1960’s that toppled a liked and trusted Secretary of State for War thanks to Christine Keeler being tied to a Russian spy as well, and Russian spy Maria Butina during Trumps first term who inserted herself into Republican and NRA insider groups to infiltrate and exploit them.
In recent times (the last 2 decades) our free and fair media (with real journalists!) covered exploitation but in small ways as to not upset the VIP elites boat.. censoring info was always done and keeping things hush hush a must. What was very dark had to be leaked out anonymously or told via independent sites or publishers willing to face lawsuits, heavy threats and criticism, but there’s been scandals before that managed to get out that rocked some elites, also suicides, harassment, extortion and murders. No doubt a few we’ll never know of but others were confirmed.
One prior decades scandal tied to Republicans directly, George Bush Sr and the CIA was the infamous Washington DC Call Boy Scandal. That did reach the public for a short time before they managed to hush that up. Read about it and Lawrence “Larry” E. King Jr, the pedophile who sang the National Anthem at the 1984 Dallas GOP convention. He also ran the Omaha Franklin Credit Union, was busted and imprisoned for years for embezzling roughly $40 Million. There were many claims at the same time he ran a child trafficking ring of mostly orphan/troubled/abused/runaway kids in the general Omaha area (who were linked to the Boy Scouts and charity groups). Charges were conveniently never filed by his pals who were the top law enforcement officials in the state who called the accusations a hoax. Seems adults just didn’t believe credible claims or would investigate a few boys had who told of exact same exploitation and could identify certain VIPs they were forced to have sex with and were abused by. They gave proof, names, dates and still weren’t believed. We’ve heard that ‘it’s a hoax’ recently and if it feels the same it’s because it is. Once out of prison Larry King Jr was quickly made editor of the Omaha World Herald Newspaper, a handy role to silence critics and shut the raging scandal down.
Some things never change, until they do. This era has Trump and Epstein/Ghislaine. So far only Epstein has truly paid the price.
Pencil-Sketches on
Saying the DoJ actually released the Epstein files is like saying George R. R. Martin released Winds of Winter. We may get bits and pieces, but we’ll never get the whole thing
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There really is nothing we can do huh? We really are without recourse in any way.
sick shit. this country is fucked.
There has always been a separate code of justice for rich white men. There should be a single code for all where no one is above the law. Period. Unfortunately SCOTUS disagrees.
>The woman, Maria Farmer, has for years said that she had called federal investigators in the summer of 1996, but the F.B.I. had never publicly acknowledged her original report, even to Ms. Farmer. **Some people following the Epstein case had accused her of inventing the story.**
James Comey’s daughter, Maureen, is one of hundreds of prosecutors who have seen the files. She was the lead prosecutor in the case against Ghislaine Maxwell. She secured her conviction in December 2021. Trump fired Comey on July 16, 2025. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out why. Anyone with eyes and a brain already knows Trump is guilty as hell. I feel better knowing the good guys know the truth.
I am not shocked. We know this has a lot, and this is a LOT, of wealthy people.
Look, Clinton knew. He showed some of his colors with the Lewinsky shit. But it certainly did not stop there. Would not be shocked if he was all over the Epstein files. Certainly we have seen him with some of the girls. Like it or not that stuff with Lewinsky is only gonna fuel it. Maybe he is innocent but I have my doubts.
And look, we know Trump is heavily involved. We have seen photos and videos of him with some of these women. His entire history of shit like “grabby them by the”, the sick shit about his own daughter, and much more.
So the real deal is why are we not seeing more of this stuff. Well, the answer seems to be that it involves many of the world’s most wealthy. Many of the power figures. The fallout would be huge. British royal family, certainly has deeper ties than just Andrew.
Going to be so many.
And lets look at it politically. Democrats will come down on theirs for this stuff. Republicans? No, they will point fingers and say “But Clinton….” and so on. And I would guess more of them are involved than most would guess. Thing is, most of the ones not involved know they win elections by the ignorance of their voters. How that would likely change in terms of their vote if it was all outed. They would lose seats to the point of Democrats being in full control.
And, just using the ACA, if they did not hurt every piece of Democrat legislation they may never win again. That is, at least, part of their thinking. Had a guy I know who is a former state rep. who is good friends with a few of our federal reps telling me that “If Democrats ever got enough control and can get universal healthcare there is no going back.” And they realize it can be done. Some just view it as bad for reasons. Hell, even had one tell me it would help too many sinners and that we need to be pushing to get GOD back into our country.
I think I view it like a woman I know who was abused, raped, sodomized, and all that as a child. It is worse to be anonymous and let them get away with it. She speaks up now but it is too late. The guys lived their lives wealthy and apparently happily. And they apparently had other victims after. Get up there, give your names, and if the victims are not needing protected from release there is no excuse.
Hey! Who was the president at that time??
Gift link:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/19/us/epstein-fbi-complaint-1996-maria-farmer.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-E8.Zy7w.-7BfOI7TK5kA&smid=url-share
Looks like that page missed a giant black box
Law enforcement for decades has failed.
It needs to be said that those like Epstein with access to very powerful men in political office and top security apparatus fields (Mossad, CIA, etc) who are tied to sexual exploitation of girls, young women (and boys) is unfortunately actually quite common and goes back a long ways. We tend to hear or remember the average sex scandals like Russian red sparrow honeypots, which the tabloids will cover endlessly until someone’s forced to step down or be fired. Like the famous Profumo affair in England in the 1960’s that toppled a liked and trusted Secretary of State for War thanks to Christine Keeler being tied to a Russian spy as well, and Russian spy Maria Butina during Trumps first term who inserted herself into Republican and NRA insider groups to infiltrate and exploit them.
In recent times (the last 2 decades) our free and fair media (with real journalists!) covered exploitation but in small ways as to not upset the VIP elites boat.. censoring info was always done and keeping things hush hush a must. What was very dark had to be leaked out anonymously or told via independent sites or publishers willing to face lawsuits, heavy threats and criticism, but there’s been scandals before that managed to get out that rocked some elites, also suicides, harassment, extortion and murders. No doubt a few we’ll never know of but others were confirmed.
One prior decades scandal tied to Republicans directly, George Bush Sr and the CIA was the infamous Washington DC Call Boy Scandal. That did reach the public for a short time before they managed to hush that up. Read about it and Lawrence “Larry” E. King Jr, the pedophile who sang the National Anthem at the 1984 Dallas GOP convention. He also ran the Omaha Franklin Credit Union, was busted and imprisoned for years for embezzling roughly $40 Million. There were many claims at the same time he ran a child trafficking ring of mostly orphan/troubled/abused/runaway kids in the general Omaha area (who were linked to the Boy Scouts and charity groups). Charges were conveniently never filed by his pals who were the top law enforcement officials in the state who called the accusations a hoax. Seems adults just didn’t believe credible claims or would investigate a few boys had who told of exact same exploitation and could identify certain VIPs they were forced to have sex with and were abused by. They gave proof, names, dates and still weren’t believed. We’ve heard that ‘it’s a hoax’ recently and if it feels the same it’s because it is. Once out of prison Larry King Jr was quickly made editor of the Omaha World Herald Newspaper, a handy role to silence critics and shut the raging scandal down.
Some things never change, until they do. This era has Trump and Epstein/Ghislaine. So far only Epstein has truly paid the price.
Saying the DoJ actually released the Epstein files is like saying George R. R. Martin released Winds of Winter. We may get bits and pieces, but we’ll never get the whole thing