Young guy on our street been learning to weld for the last couple of years. He told me that there are a lot of jobs available, and on good money. He also told me that most don’t even stay on the course for more than a few weeks, or even days. Those who leave say its because it’s often cold or it’s hard, heavy work.
Could become a problem in the near future.
Opposite_Boot_6903 on
Tecforce are a great company. Anyone around Derby looking for a solid trade, I recommend looking into this.
Fearless-King3399 on
Fibre Laser Welder – once these become mainstream in a couple of years anyone with five minutes experience will be able to do the job better than most experienced mig/ tig welders today
The only skill will be ability to read drawings
Just_Match_2322 on
It doesn’t help that apprenticeships are still chaotic. You simply don’t know if the training you get from one company will make you employable by another.
InformationNew66 on
Whatever happened to “AI will take all the jobs” in news Today?
qwerty_1965 on
I guess we’re assuming robots will do all the trade skills and with no tea breaks.
nearlyFried on
It’s the same problem as every other industry. Companies want experienced people only and they’re unwilling to take people who can weld but don’t have two years experience.
Just to highlight the ludicrousness, I did a welding night class for three months, mig, tig and mma welding. I also have verbal agreement that a local community development fund are willing to pay my entire wage at a welding job for some amount of time. But the companies I’ve contacted with help from someone at Enable are yet to take us up on this offer of a free welder.
Scotland btw.
AxelFastlane on
If it’s needed, wages will rise until the jobs can be filled. More people will train and it’ll balance out.
thercoon on
I work in the welding industry. The vast majority of fabricator shops are abysmal, freezing cold, absolute garbage air quality, miserably dirty work and overall crap working conditions. As a man in my 30s I’d rather stack shelves in asda for half the wage than work in a fab shop. Nobody will do the job until conditions improve.
NostrilWarbler on
Unfortunately a lot of bigger companies gave next to no opportunities to people for a decade or two. Despite being warned the management done nothing and are now playing catch up for skills and experience depletion that’s happening to their work forces
hadawayandshite on
My nephew just got a job in this- lucrative. He’s not going to be far off higher tax band as a teenager
DanHarold on
I hope in the future more companies offer shorter weeks, I found it really physically demanding full time plus companies always want you to do overtime and work Saturday’s which is just depressing, don’t think I would go back into it unless it was part time, the amount of hazards you are exposed to aswell, is it really worth it?
Georgist-Minarchist on
if schools didn’t push UNI so much then people would go to trades , being told apprenticeship aren’t worth it and UNI is the best option constantly doesn’t help
inevitable_dave on
It’s easy to see this as being the problem of a “soft” generation, but the job is inherently dangerous, physically demanding, and the wages at the entry level are pitiful if not insulting – nowhere near enough to be liveable.
regprenticer on
> A welding firm in Derby has launched an in-house training facility in an attempt tackle a declining and ageing workforce.
This is the way it was up until the 90s.
Employers needed staff, they trained them up to do their job and many jobs were for life.
If you went back in time no one would believe that in the future it would be a revolutionary idea.
stevielfc76 on
I work in this field and our production manager was complaining about not being able to hire apprentices or young, qualified welders,
I put it like this – you could get into welding but even in a decent fab shop it’s cold in winter, roasting in summer, noisy, dirty, loud and full of fume (even with good LEV system there’ll be residual fume despite what people think) or you could work in a call centre on better money, AC in the summer, heating in the winter, no H&S issues (not in comparison anyways).
The only way we can get younger people into the industry is more pay (overtime is a necessity to get decent money), better work life balance and overall better conditions.
funfuse1976 on
Just go slinging and lifting,it’s the same money and much easier to learn.
buggerthatforagame on
Was a welder, 5 year pipe fitting apentiship, I looked my instructors , middle age men coughing up there lungs , and realised there are no old Welders , good ones yes , but no old ones ..so I swapped over to domestic central heating service, repairs…fiberglass is as bad
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Young guy on our street been learning to weld for the last couple of years. He told me that there are a lot of jobs available, and on good money. He also told me that most don’t even stay on the course for more than a few weeks, or even days. Those who leave say its because it’s often cold or it’s hard, heavy work.
Could become a problem in the near future.
Tecforce are a great company. Anyone around Derby looking for a solid trade, I recommend looking into this.
Fibre Laser Welder – once these become mainstream in a couple of years anyone with five minutes experience will be able to do the job better than most experienced mig/ tig welders today
The only skill will be ability to read drawings
It doesn’t help that apprenticeships are still chaotic. You simply don’t know if the training you get from one company will make you employable by another.
Whatever happened to “AI will take all the jobs” in news Today?
I guess we’re assuming robots will do all the trade skills and with no tea breaks.
It’s the same problem as every other industry. Companies want experienced people only and they’re unwilling to take people who can weld but don’t have two years experience.
Just to highlight the ludicrousness, I did a welding night class for three months, mig, tig and mma welding. I also have verbal agreement that a local community development fund are willing to pay my entire wage at a welding job for some amount of time. But the companies I’ve contacted with help from someone at Enable are yet to take us up on this offer of a free welder.
Scotland btw.
If it’s needed, wages will rise until the jobs can be filled. More people will train and it’ll balance out.
I work in the welding industry. The vast majority of fabricator shops are abysmal, freezing cold, absolute garbage air quality, miserably dirty work and overall crap working conditions. As a man in my 30s I’d rather stack shelves in asda for half the wage than work in a fab shop. Nobody will do the job until conditions improve.
Unfortunately a lot of bigger companies gave next to no opportunities to people for a decade or two. Despite being warned the management done nothing and are now playing catch up for skills and experience depletion that’s happening to their work forces
My nephew just got a job in this- lucrative. He’s not going to be far off higher tax band as a teenager
I hope in the future more companies offer shorter weeks, I found it really physically demanding full time plus companies always want you to do overtime and work Saturday’s which is just depressing, don’t think I would go back into it unless it was part time, the amount of hazards you are exposed to aswell, is it really worth it?
if schools didn’t push UNI so much then people would go to trades , being told apprenticeship aren’t worth it and UNI is the best option constantly doesn’t help
It’s easy to see this as being the problem of a “soft” generation, but the job is inherently dangerous, physically demanding, and the wages at the entry level are pitiful if not insulting – nowhere near enough to be liveable.
> A welding firm in Derby has launched an in-house training facility in an attempt tackle a declining and ageing workforce.
This is the way it was up until the 90s.
Employers needed staff, they trained them up to do their job and many jobs were for life.
If you went back in time no one would believe that in the future it would be a revolutionary idea.
I work in this field and our production manager was complaining about not being able to hire apprentices or young, qualified welders,
I put it like this – you could get into welding but even in a decent fab shop it’s cold in winter, roasting in summer, noisy, dirty, loud and full of fume (even with good LEV system there’ll be residual fume despite what people think) or you could work in a call centre on better money, AC in the summer, heating in the winter, no H&S issues (not in comparison anyways).
The only way we can get younger people into the industry is more pay (overtime is a necessity to get decent money), better work life balance and overall better conditions.
Just go slinging and lifting,it’s the same money and much easier to learn.
Was a welder, 5 year pipe fitting apentiship, I looked my instructors , middle age men coughing up there lungs , and realised there are no old Welders , good ones yes , but no old ones ..so I swapped over to domestic central heating service, repairs…fiberglass is as bad