Badly need those government ids to make something like this work. Combined with Palantir we can create a ‘machine’ like in Person of Interest where the government can protect us from all relevant threats. There’s no way anyone could use this for nefarious reasons.
audigex on
Ridiculous. It was silly when Australia did it and it would be silly if we do it.
When we give up our freedoms and way of life in the name of hiding from terrorism, the terrorists win
We take away freedom from millions of our own teenagers, and terrorist groups will have found ways round it within a week
And then we wonder why the UK is falling behind on tech. We’re a parody of a nation
mrjohnnymac18 on
Jonathan Hall is a dangerous man:
His father-in-law is a patron of UKLFI
He spends family holidays in Israel and has visited Israeli “counter-terrorism” bodies
He compared Palestine Action to loyalist paramilitaries in Northern Ireland and was on the board that banned it
He said that protesting against PA’s ban would empower supporters of al-Qaeda and Daesh
recursant on
How about first we develop a regulated, double-blind age verification mechanism?
It would have to allow me to verify my age to a website, but without the website knowing who I am, and without the age verification service knowing which site had requested the verification.
All the website would know is that I am some unknown person who is definitely over 16. All the age verification service would know is that they had told some unknown website that I am definitely over 16.
That would protect children without compromising my privacy.
But we all know what will actually happen. Every time I want to access any website I will have to submit a copy of my passport to some or other big US corp, who will know every site I visit online, and who would be legally obliged to share that information with the government, and would also end up sharing that information with criminals when they inevitably get hacked.
We know that will happen because this is nothing to do with protecting children, the government just want to know everything about everybody.
NathanDavie on
Agree with a ban on under 18s using social media. Concurrently, schools need to start working on giving the next generation the critical thinking skills to navigate the internet without believing fake stuff or basing their own sense of self esteem on influencers.
This is a tool for learning, communication and just generally making life easier. Do the bare minimum of following up on sources if you read something that seems dubious.
Lammtarra95 on
Ban under-16s to prevent over-16s being radicalised and going on murderous sprees. Is that the pitch? There are lots of reasons to get children off social media 24×7 but this does not seem to be one of them.
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DSQ on
My issue with the social media ban is that I do agree with it in theory but the reality is until there is proper moderation of these apps and proper parental supervision of children any ban would be pointless.
jenny_905 on
Seems we’re very willing to admit social media is shit… but only for children.
Time to be honest and admit it is as bad if not worse for adults. Either regulate it for content properly or ban it entirely.
RainbowRedYellow on
Honestly social media is the only way to get alot of accurate information about what is going on in the world I see this as a consolidation by corrupt social media sites and legacy media to try and cultivate the opinions of the young… And basically groom them into becoming neo-nazis.
According-Face-3214 on
Always the stick or punishment instead of education and care.
Own-Victory473 on
Always protecting the kids by letting them grow up clueless and isolating them from friends, yeah brilliant, all these groups just want your data nothing else and theyll use any excuse to monitor you
m1ndwipe on
Yeah, it’s really time that these quango heads – the reviewer of Terrorism legislation, the Children’s Commissioner et al – had some accountability for their dumb and incredibly political lobbying put on them.
Why do they accept public money to unaccountably lobby for legal changes? If they want to do that, quit and stand as an MP.
GhostRiders on
Here is a wild idea, how about we actually make the various Social Media Platforms?
Currently they are doing absolute minimum, in many cases even less yet apparently this is fine?
In 2022 over 90% off all CSAM that was reported to the US Law enforcement agencies were on Platforms owned by Meta.
Similar figures can be found in many other countries.
So why are we not demanding that Governments actually make Meta responsible instead introducing draconian measures ?
miku_dominos on
Stepping stone for a digital ID for everyone under the guise of think of the children.
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Badly need those government ids to make something like this work. Combined with Palantir we can create a ‘machine’ like in Person of Interest where the government can protect us from all relevant threats. There’s no way anyone could use this for nefarious reasons.
Ridiculous. It was silly when Australia did it and it would be silly if we do it.
When we give up our freedoms and way of life in the name of hiding from terrorism, the terrorists win
We take away freedom from millions of our own teenagers, and terrorist groups will have found ways round it within a week
And then we wonder why the UK is falling behind on tech. We’re a parody of a nation
Jonathan Hall is a dangerous man:
His father-in-law is a patron of UKLFI
He spends family holidays in Israel and has visited Israeli “counter-terrorism” bodies
He compared Palestine Action to loyalist paramilitaries in Northern Ireland and was on the board that banned it
He said that protesting against PA’s ban would empower supporters of al-Qaeda and Daesh
How about first we develop a regulated, double-blind age verification mechanism?
It would have to allow me to verify my age to a website, but without the website knowing who I am, and without the age verification service knowing which site had requested the verification.
All the website would know is that I am some unknown person who is definitely over 16. All the age verification service would know is that they had told some unknown website that I am definitely over 16.
That would protect children without compromising my privacy.
But we all know what will actually happen. Every time I want to access any website I will have to submit a copy of my passport to some or other big US corp, who will know every site I visit online, and who would be legally obliged to share that information with the government, and would also end up sharing that information with criminals when they inevitably get hacked.
We know that will happen because this is nothing to do with protecting children, the government just want to know everything about everybody.
Agree with a ban on under 18s using social media. Concurrently, schools need to start working on giving the next generation the critical thinking skills to navigate the internet without believing fake stuff or basing their own sense of self esteem on influencers.
This is a tool for learning, communication and just generally making life easier. Do the bare minimum of following up on sources if you read something that seems dubious.
Ban under-16s to prevent over-16s being radicalised and going on murderous sprees. Is that the pitch? There are lots of reasons to get children off social media 24×7 but this does not seem to be one of them.
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My issue with the social media ban is that I do agree with it in theory but the reality is until there is proper moderation of these apps and proper parental supervision of children any ban would be pointless.
Seems we’re very willing to admit social media is shit… but only for children.
Time to be honest and admit it is as bad if not worse for adults. Either regulate it for content properly or ban it entirely.
Honestly social media is the only way to get alot of accurate information about what is going on in the world I see this as a consolidation by corrupt social media sites and legacy media to try and cultivate the opinions of the young… And basically groom them into becoming neo-nazis.
Always the stick or punishment instead of education and care.
Always protecting the kids by letting them grow up clueless and isolating them from friends, yeah brilliant, all these groups just want your data nothing else and theyll use any excuse to monitor you
Yeah, it’s really time that these quango heads – the reviewer of Terrorism legislation, the Children’s Commissioner et al – had some accountability for their dumb and incredibly political lobbying put on them.
Why do they accept public money to unaccountably lobby for legal changes? If they want to do that, quit and stand as an MP.
Here is a wild idea, how about we actually make the various Social Media Platforms?
Currently they are doing absolute minimum, in many cases even less yet apparently this is fine?
In 2022 over 90% off all CSAM that was reported to the US Law enforcement agencies were on Platforms owned by Meta.
Similar figures can be found in many other countries.
So why are we not demanding that Governments actually make Meta responsible instead introducing draconian measures ?
Stepping stone for a digital ID for everyone under the guise of think of the children.