Its clear he shot her through the side window when he wasnt in danger. She refused his orders so he acted on impulsive rage by murdering her in cold blood rather than subduing the vehicle by shooting the tires instead or by just letting her drive off like a rational person would do. These guys are untrained, over empowered, and brainwashed. Welcome to the new gestapo.
TheDoctorDB on
Idk all the details of what was happening there or why anyone was there and what they were doing.
But imo we don’t need to. Isn’t the claim that she was blocking traffic or something? Beginning of one of the videos I saw shows the van in the road, and a car going around it just fine. Then the police/ice/whatever truck shows up and blocks the WHOLE road. Solution is already worse than the problem. No one is going around the ice truck parked right in the middle. Their mere arrival has already made it worse.
Everything after looked very aggressive. Whose initial response would really be to try to open the car door and rip out the driver? I feel like under different circumstances, the cult crowd would probably have been cheering for the driver defending themselves against a weirdo trying to assault them in their own vehicle tbh.
ThatDudeJuicebox on
Anyone with a brain and logical thinking knows this was just murder. Plain and simple.
Cheetotiki on
Murder, pure and simple. Unmask the murderer.
oooohshinythingy on
Trump’s sm post about it is disgusting. Nasty pos
asdf333 on
its obvious. lets grow a pair and not be pussies about calling a spade a spade
They’ll sooner make recording ice a crime than do anything about this
Traditional_Sign4941 on
Every single video shows the same thing – ICE set up a deliberate no-win scenario for this person.
A terrorist put itself in front of the vehicle
A second terrorist rapidly approached the vehicle, grabbed the handle, and reached into the vehicle to grab the steering wheel
Their goal was to give the American an impossible choice – be abducted and disappeared, or scare them into driving forward towards the first terrorist to justify a “self defense” murder.
After-Temperature585 on
It’s mad that your President has his own private army going around arresting your citizens. They’re armed. They shoot someone in the face. They approach a woman pulling off her drive. And now you’ll have to worry about which way her wheels were facing.
I really hope we (the UK) don’t back our Trump/Putin bootlicker who imports the stuff you guys are going through.
Crazy country you have people. Got a lot of healing to do what you finally rid yourselves of the nonce
Bag_of_Meat13 on
MAGA will watch the video and flock to conservative echo chambers to find out how to feel about it.
Morons can’t even think for themselves anymore and actually witness something and see it for what it is.
FlyEaglesFlyauggie on
sad. so sad.
Minneapolis live updates: FBI to take over shooting investigation, officials say
The BCA was told that it would no longer have access to the case materials necessary to complete a thorough and independent investigation, according to a statement by BCA Superintendent Drew Evans.
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DistractedPhoenix on
It’s very telling the agent came back white as a ghost and said “call 9-1-1”
I’m sorry aren’t you the police? You can’t radio into dispatch for an ambulance? Whats the code to dispatch an ambulance? The fact they don’t know this nor have the ability shows how unprepared these manchildren are.
insecurestaircase on
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) policy generally prohibits officers from shooting at a moving vehicle unless it is being used to imminently threaten deadly force and no other reasonable defensive option is available. Officers are explicitly instructed to move out of the vehicle’s path if possible.
Key Provisions of the DHS Policy
Prohibition on Firing Solely to Disable a Vehicle: Officers are prohibited from firing at a moving vehicle solely to disable it or stop a fleeing suspect who doesn’t pose an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm.
Deadly Force Justification: Deadly force is only permissible in limited situations: When someone inside the vehicle threatens deadly force using means other than the vehicle itself. When the vehicle is being used to imminently threaten death or serious injury, and no other reasonable defensive option exists.
Prioritizing Safety: Officers are trained to avoid the path of a moving vehicle and to move out of the way as an alternative to using deadly force. Consideration of Hazards: Officers must consider potential risks to bystanders and other personnel before using deadly force.
This policy is consistent with guidance from the Department of Justice and the FBI and aims to reduce the risk of harm associated with shooting at moving vehicles.
curtass7 on
Fuck. You can see him lean into the windshield and intentionally fire his weapon.
keepitcleanforwork on
He also put himself there. There was no danger to himself that he did not create.
tjvond1 on
The agent wanted to shoot her, just need a semblance of a reason. We cannot let this stand.
Homeless_Alex on
It’s so funny going to a certain sub and seeing the headline being completely 180 from this.
People are truly fucking stupid
PuddingXXL on
The fact that people are arguing that if you violate an order you’re good to be executed is insane to me.
At this point Americans might as well chop thieves hand off as a warning as well.
Why not just torture criminals outright? Apparently if you ran a red light you’re good to be executed in the majority of Americans opinion anyhow…
guttanzer on
He was also six feet away and looking directly at her. He had to have seen her turning the wheel as fast as possible to the right. He was aiming at her head, so he had to see her face too. All her actions indicated a desire to get away, so It’s not hard to imagine that she was completely losing it from fright. The car had no speed and it’s trajectory was away from his body. He was objectively not in danger. He fired anyway. It was murder.
And not to be too blunt about it, but these are people enforcing civil laws – paperwork violations. Why are they masked up? Why are they carrying guns? Why are they so quick to draw them? This has nothing to do with immigration or customs enforcement, and everything to do with state-sponsored domestic terrorism.
ocular__patdown on
No shit. Even supposing she was driving at the guy (which she wasnt) any normal humans reaction would have been to dive for safety. This dude 100% just wanted to shoot someone because he could.
Modano9009 on
She was parked, backed up a couple of feet to get room to turn and was attempting to drive away from them. He wasn’t in front of the car, wasn’t in any danger. He simply decided he was going to shoot.
the_erudite_rider on
Why isn’t his name plastered everywhere yet
Individual_Click5252 on
It is amazing to me the many number of MAGA morons that completely contradict what’s seen on the video. If Trump told them 1+1=3, they would parrot that.
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You don’t even need the video. The fact that the shots went through the drivers side window is proof enough he was on the side.
Even if he was, he could have jumped out of the way, and even if he didn’t make it he would have probably been fine.
He bends in toward the vehicle to get a better shot.
[please share – NY Times posted a video analysis of the shooting (graphic warning)](https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html)
The FBI officially shut down the investigation.
Its clear he shot her through the side window when he wasnt in danger. She refused his orders so he acted on impulsive rage by murdering her in cold blood rather than subduing the vehicle by shooting the tires instead or by just letting her drive off like a rational person would do. These guys are untrained, over empowered, and brainwashed. Welcome to the new gestapo.
Idk all the details of what was happening there or why anyone was there and what they were doing.
But imo we don’t need to. Isn’t the claim that she was blocking traffic or something? Beginning of one of the videos I saw shows the van in the road, and a car going around it just fine. Then the police/ice/whatever truck shows up and blocks the WHOLE road. Solution is already worse than the problem. No one is going around the ice truck parked right in the middle. Their mere arrival has already made it worse.
Everything after looked very aggressive. Whose initial response would really be to try to open the car door and rip out the driver? I feel like under different circumstances, the cult crowd would probably have been cheering for the driver defending themselves against a weirdo trying to assault them in their own vehicle tbh.
Anyone with a brain and logical thinking knows this was just murder. Plain and simple.
Murder, pure and simple. Unmask the murderer.
Trump’s sm post about it is disgusting. Nasty pos
its obvious. lets grow a pair and not be pussies about calling a spade a spade
Mirror: [https://archive.ph/GTrjR](https://archive.ph/GTrjR)
They’ll sooner make recording ice a crime than do anything about this
Every single video shows the same thing – ICE set up a deliberate no-win scenario for this person.
A terrorist put itself in front of the vehicle
A second terrorist rapidly approached the vehicle, grabbed the handle, and reached into the vehicle to grab the steering wheel
Their goal was to give the American an impossible choice – be abducted and disappeared, or scare them into driving forward towards the first terrorist to justify a “self defense” murder.
It’s mad that your President has his own private army going around arresting your citizens. They’re armed. They shoot someone in the face. They approach a woman pulling off her drive. And now you’ll have to worry about which way her wheels were facing.
I really hope we (the UK) don’t back our Trump/Putin bootlicker who imports the stuff you guys are going through.
Crazy country you have people. Got a lot of healing to do what you finally rid yourselves of the nonce
MAGA will watch the video and flock to conservative echo chambers to find out how to feel about it.
Morons can’t even think for themselves anymore and actually witness something and see it for what it is.
sad. so sad.
Minneapolis live updates: FBI to take over shooting investigation, officials say
The BCA was told that it would no longer have access to the case materials necessary to complete a thorough and independent investigation, according to a statement by BCA Superintendent Drew Evans.
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It’s very telling the agent came back white as a ghost and said “call 9-1-1”
I’m sorry aren’t you the police? You can’t radio into dispatch for an ambulance? Whats the code to dispatch an ambulance? The fact they don’t know this nor have the ability shows how unprepared these manchildren are.
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) policy generally prohibits officers from shooting at a moving vehicle unless it is being used to imminently threaten deadly force and no other reasonable defensive option is available. Officers are explicitly instructed to move out of the vehicle’s path if possible.
Key Provisions of the DHS Policy
Prohibition on Firing Solely to Disable a Vehicle: Officers are prohibited from firing at a moving vehicle solely to disable it or stop a fleeing suspect who doesn’t pose an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm.
Deadly Force Justification: Deadly force is only permissible in limited situations: When someone inside the vehicle threatens deadly force using means other than the vehicle itself. When the vehicle is being used to imminently threaten death or serious injury, and no other reasonable defensive option exists.
Prioritizing Safety: Officers are trained to avoid the path of a moving vehicle and to move out of the way as an alternative to using deadly force. Consideration of Hazards: Officers must consider potential risks to bystanders and other personnel before using deadly force.
This policy is consistent with guidance from the Department of Justice and the FBI and aims to reduce the risk of harm associated with shooting at moving vehicles.
Fuck. You can see him lean into the windshield and intentionally fire his weapon.
He also put himself there. There was no danger to himself that he did not create.
The agent wanted to shoot her, just need a semblance of a reason. We cannot let this stand.
It’s so funny going to a certain sub and seeing the headline being completely 180 from this.
People are truly fucking stupid
The fact that people are arguing that if you violate an order you’re good to be executed is insane to me.
At this point Americans might as well chop thieves hand off as a warning as well.
Why not just torture criminals outright? Apparently if you ran a red light you’re good to be executed in the majority of Americans opinion anyhow…
He was also six feet away and looking directly at her. He had to have seen her turning the wheel as fast as possible to the right. He was aiming at her head, so he had to see her face too. All her actions indicated a desire to get away, so It’s not hard to imagine that she was completely losing it from fright. The car had no speed and it’s trajectory was away from his body. He was objectively not in danger. He fired anyway. It was murder.
And not to be too blunt about it, but these are people enforcing civil laws – paperwork violations. Why are they masked up? Why are they carrying guns? Why are they so quick to draw them? This has nothing to do with immigration or customs enforcement, and everything to do with state-sponsored domestic terrorism.
No shit. Even supposing she was driving at the guy (which she wasnt) any normal humans reaction would have been to dive for safety. This dude 100% just wanted to shoot someone because he could.
She was parked, backed up a couple of feet to get room to turn and was attempting to drive away from them. He wasn’t in front of the car, wasn’t in any danger. He simply decided he was going to shoot.
Why isn’t his name plastered everywhere yet
It is amazing to me the many number of MAGA morons that completely contradict what’s seen on the video. If Trump told them 1+1=3, they would parrot that.
Never forget how anyone responded to this.
Never. Vote. Republican.