Anthony Albanese is taking an all-or-nothing approach to passing his hate speech legislation, warning if it doesn't get up tomorrow it may not be revisited.
Asked if he'd walk away from the laws if not passed tomorrow, the PM responded: "Correct".
The government is locked in negotiations with the Coalition to try and secure a deal on the stripped-back laws after it failed to secure support to criminalise racial vilification.
The PM was asked if he'd be open to extending that, as put forward by the Greens, to sexuality or disability.
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Honest question to all the Greens supporters here, there’s at least five of you who openly called for the Thomas Sewell neo-Nazi NSN to be banned following the March for Australia and horrific attack on Camp Sovereignty last year. How do you feel now that the Greens are opposing the bill that will ban the Nazis? It won’t eradicate Nazism, but it’ll force them and Hizb-ut-Tahrir to go underground and it’ll be incredibly difficult for them to recruit and campaign. The Greens have spoken out against the specific part about banning terror-lite hate groups. Do you feel embarrassed and ashamed that your favourite party is fighting on behalf of the Nazis?
To be honest, that’s fair.
All sides have bungled the aftermath of Bondi, resulting in this half-arsed legislation.
I’d prefer no hate-speech laws than hate-speech laws that give preferential treatment to a vocal minority group.
They either apply to everyone or no one at all.
The greens are a useless bunch of idealists who don’t know how to pick their battles.
that is not the priority，the cost of living is.
Oh here we go. Classic Albanese. Every time somebody wants to negotiate he has a cry and then accuses the other parties of “blocking” the bill. Dude can’t fathom that something he has come up might be garbage, or at the very least doesn’t appeal to everybody.
And of course Labor die hards will defend this mentality, because for some reason they think other parties exist to rubber stamp every half baked idea Labor throws across the table.
Just scrap the entire thing. Its just a trojan horse for government crackdown on free speech and expression, regardless of how you frame it.
Quite simply, you have the right to offend and be offended under basically all circumstances with the only exception being if you directly and explicitly call for imminent violence (death threats, rape threats, etc).
Obviously the nazis and other types of people are fucking arseholes and retards, but do you seriously think just banning their speech will solve the problem? All it will do is make them go underground and likely be more radical.
Also isn’t it arguably better to have them as a single centralised group that is easier to monitor, instead of a ton of small decentralised groups that are harder to monitor?
Quite frankly, its a massive slippery slope, and I can’t understand how so many people seem to be just willingly giving up their civil liberties to the government. Literally just study history and you’ll understand why its such a bad idea.
Also, once you essentially ban and expel a group of people with certain beliefs and ideas from the free market place of ideas that is free speech and expression, all you are doing is essentially forcing them to pursue other means, and those other means often result in violence. Because that is what free speech prevents, it prevents people from using violence or other means to spread their ideas, and instead allows everyone to discuss it in a peaceful setting (and no, speech and ideas aren’t violent by themselves, violence is action, not ideas).
And if you still somehow support it, just realise that if a different government comes to power with different politics, they can and will absolutely use these laws against you next.
Also you seriously want to give up freedoms to a government (system not politics more so) that covered up Robodebt, jails whistleblowers, and involved us in the lie that was the Iraq war, just to name a few. You trust that government?
This isn’t about tribalistic political BS or culture war slop, its about defending democracy, which everyone should support, regardless of your political beliefs.
Good, let the hate speech stuff disappear. I’d be open to some proper intelligent debate (I’d err on free speech however, and that defamation stuff needs to be looked at btw), but none of this emotional reaction shit with an idiotic timeline.
I get that some people were attacked by terrible people at a beach. It enraged and saddened me greatly. I feel for the families…