It requires like 8 Republicans to grow a spine but sure we can blame Democrats I guess
riverssandsnow on
I’ve been saying this for years only to be screamed at by Democratic voters. If you want to beat Trump, you have to defeat the right wing of the Democratic Party. They are the impasse to real change in this country.
Until then, you’re fucked. If Kamala had won we would still be on the same path. We would’ve just prolonged this outcome a few years.
If you want to prevent movement to the Right, you have to go Left. You can’t compromise with the Right. They’re going to keep pushing until we’re back to feudalism, until you’re a slave living on borrowed land, until people of color are in mass graves, until they’re gang *aping women in the street for fun, and the only entertainment is public executions.
The state has to work for workers. No one else. The economy should exist to improve OUR lives and for no other reason. The more you enrich individual private capital owners, the closer you get to fascism.
Socialism is the only way.
cleanmypenis on
You gave the republicans majorities in all branches. It requires a new population.
Xullister on
What Democratic leadership? Chuck’s imaginary friends?
Gapingthevoid on
We need a new arrangement for the people by the people, unite.
Patsanon1212 on
I’m so tired of these endless think pieces about replacing democratic leadership. I have no idea what purpose they even serve. If leadership are as weak as you think they are, primarying them should be easy. If progressives cannot mount those challenges, they aren’t fit for the big leagues. We endlessly dog democrats for how they are all yap, time for progressives to stop yapping and do the thing.
kittenTakeover on
This is the dumbest take. Instead of tearing down allies people need to focus on contributing themselves. Forget about what other people are doing. Get involved. You’ll find it a lot harder to criticize others if you’re directly involved because you’ll realize things aren’t so easy.
espio_217 on
What leadership?
Maniac_24seven on
Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jefferies are pathetic.
A-Sh1t_sh0w on
Dems better get to work.
Carrie3-po on
Corporatists leadership there I fixed it❤️ain’t nothing changing til prosecution and consequences for all corporatists
Lynda73 on
Sure thing, but at a certain point, these articles start to feel like victim blaming. The Dems aren’t the ones routinely violating the law and the Constitution.
UnfortunatelySimple on
The USA needs to overcome billionaire influence more than any particular party.
Otherwise nothing will change significantly, that what drives people to be turned against each other and their own best interests.
IJustWantCoffeeMan on
I disagree.
Democrats can stay as the right wing party.
Republicans can find other jobs.
bassicallyinsane on
They should have all stepped down last November
KnotSoSalty on
People want a government that equably governs in their interest. They just don’t trust the Democratic Party to deliver it.
PenAndInkAndComics on
What are you all doing to get better Democrats elected in the primary and the general?
witchgrove on
Third way democrats and neoliberalism has been nothing but a failure.
AnonAmbientLight on
The problem that a lot of people are forgetting is that if what Democrats did actually mattered to the voting population, they wouldn’t have voted for Republicans.
I keep saying this but I would bet that 90% of the people reading my post have no fucking clue about HR 1 to HR 10 in 2019 and 2021.
None of you have a single fucking clue about what that legislation was or was trying to do.
So how can you expect the average American re…. voter to understand why they should vote Democrat.
The reason they are always seeming to be middle of the road on issues is that ***THEY’RE NOT TRYING TO GET YOUR FUCKING VOTE***.
They’re trying to get the vote of the ***OTHER PEOPLE*** they need to actually win elections.
Right? Does that make sense?
Look at Mamdani as a good fucking example. I’m glad he won as mayor. He will be good for New York.
But it was ***NOT*** a blow out guys. He won with 50.78% of the fucking vote.
FIFTY ONE PERCENT.
If you have any political sense ***at all*** it would tell you that going hard on things like what Mamdani wants, even in BLUE AS FUCK NEW YORK CITY, only gets you so far – especially for Democrats on the national scale.
So if you’re Democrats, you have to play this weird fucking game where you have to figure out where to thread the needle because the American voter is so unbelievably fucking dumb, they can’t tell what’s actually good for them.
Worry about ***winning elections first*** then worry about what you’ll do after you win.
Win at all costs is the most important thing in this moment.
YouShouldQuitItTho on
Stupid infighting shit every day. Dems didn’t do this, and fixing it isn’t their job. The voters failed. Democracy failed.
Dump them by voting better. That’s how it works. We are in charge
Aggravating_Flow_112 on
And when the republic falls all the lefties can cling to their purity for comfort I suppose.
CoachDT on
I can agree with this to some extent. But its a voting problem.
The people wanted this. They still do. Won’t speak for Schumer but Jeffries will maul any challenger at the moment.
The unfortunate part of progressivism is that they cant accept that most people dont want the shit that they want outside of in an abstract thought. I do, but I understand that populations move at a snails pace.
labnotebook on
CHUCK Schumer!
EnslavedBandicoot on
The primaries are going to be SUPER important this year. Democratic voters need to be aware that we can squash these fascists if we send the right people to the general election. That means NOT always voting for the Democrat currently elected. If your gut is telling you someone else is better then go for that person.
Dismal-Bullfrog-7851 on
The frustration with Democratic leadership being too accommodating to right-wing forces is palpable throughout these discussions. People keep pointing out that we’ve been on this trajectory since at least the Bush era, when similar authoritarian tendencies went unchecked by moderate Democrats. The real issue isn’t just weak leadership but leadership that’s ideologically aligned with maintaining the status quo rather than challenging it. We need to recognize that voting alone isn’t enough when the choices presented are between center-right and far-right options. The lack of viable progressive alternatives creates a vacuum where people feel trapped between bad options. This dynamic explains why some voters might prefer far-left candidates over centrist Democrats when they’re truly dissatisfied with the current system.
voodoodahl on
Instead of talking about getting rid of Democrats, why aren’t we talking about getting rid of fascist Republicans? Who’s side is left media on, exactly?
People need to realize oligarchs and foreign governments can buy left media too. How many leftist media figures have flipped sides already? TYT? Tim Poole? Any of those ring a bell?
If someone is telling you to attack your own at a time like this, they might not really be on your side.
Drabulous_770 on
There’s too many braindead centrist lib lovers who will keep voting and donating to these helpless wastes of space.
vOtE bLuE nO mAtTeR wHo
Every lib who called the Gaza genocide an unreasonable purity test is now wondering why the same AIPAC money sucking blobs don’t care to stop the Gestapo at home.
CivilWay1444 on
Overcoming misinformation will require media with integrity.
LigottiKnows on
“Defeating fascism will require defeating their collaborators”
Correct.
Viseroth on
Yes lets blame this all on Dems and let MAGA off the hook. I know that Democrats’ leadership is garbage, but so is the GOP’s,. this both sides are bad crap is why we are here, say whatever you want about Chuck and Jefferies they are not the ones deploying troops to States and threatening allies and attacking other countries, or as GOP leadership is doing, making up excuses for them to be doing this.
New-Blacksmith7330 on
What is the minority party supposed to do when they do not have enough vote to essentially do anything.
Almost they can do is hold the funding bill hostage.
If you don’t have 60 votes you don’t have anything.
Blame the centrist that voted for trump because both were the same
Demonokuma on
This reads as, if republicans are going to get hurt then democrats also.must get hurt.
Take some responbility for your party for allowing a convicted felon and pedophile to get power. Its so hard to be mad at both parties when one of them is blatantly worse.
ashandrien on
Agree
Minute-Plantain on
Schumer has to go. He’s the Party’s version of whatever the hell Paul Begala was supposed to be on CrossFire.
Morbidly-Obese-Emu on
Overcoming Uselesstarianism
dinosaurkiller on
“We just need to somehow incorporate the correct amount of Fascism into our party” Chuck Schumer probably
NihongoCrypto on
What America actually wants and needs is a left-wing option. There are two right parties.
Advanced_Leader8535 on
We need to send Schumer to the Hague along with every Republican and ICE agent in the nation.
Andovars_Ghost on
Democratic ‘Leadership’, this cabal of nitwitted, self-flagellating, eunuchs could take a veto-proof majority in both chambers and turn it into a policy victory for Trump.
Jack-Tar-Says on
In a time of a real national emergency, enter the opposition who are so inept they care far more about keeping their jobs than saving the country.
Useless twats. They should have fire in their bellies but instead show up with wet handkerchiefs.
History shows they’ll end up in the gulag with those that they fail to support as their enemy views them as being no different to all the other minorities needing to be dealt with.
Single_Job_6358 on
People in congress should only be able to serve a limited number of years. I truly believe that if they stay too long, they start to get off on the power trip and become addicted to the greed. And that is what is ruining our country.
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All the dead weight needs to go.
Not a small roadblock either
It requires like 8 Republicans to grow a spine but sure we can blame Democrats I guess
I’ve been saying this for years only to be screamed at by Democratic voters. If you want to beat Trump, you have to defeat the right wing of the Democratic Party. They are the impasse to real change in this country.
Until then, you’re fucked. If Kamala had won we would still be on the same path. We would’ve just prolonged this outcome a few years.
If you want to prevent movement to the Right, you have to go Left. You can’t compromise with the Right. They’re going to keep pushing until we’re back to feudalism, until you’re a slave living on borrowed land, until people of color are in mass graves, until they’re gang *aping women in the street for fun, and the only entertainment is public executions.
The state has to work for workers. No one else. The economy should exist to improve OUR lives and for no other reason. The more you enrich individual private capital owners, the closer you get to fascism.
Socialism is the only way.
You gave the republicans majorities in all branches. It requires a new population.
What Democratic leadership? Chuck’s imaginary friends?
We need a new arrangement for the people by the people, unite.
I’m so tired of these endless think pieces about replacing democratic leadership. I have no idea what purpose they even serve. If leadership are as weak as you think they are, primarying them should be easy. If progressives cannot mount those challenges, they aren’t fit for the big leagues. We endlessly dog democrats for how they are all yap, time for progressives to stop yapping and do the thing.
This is the dumbest take. Instead of tearing down allies people need to focus on contributing themselves. Forget about what other people are doing. Get involved. You’ll find it a lot harder to criticize others if you’re directly involved because you’ll realize things aren’t so easy.
What leadership?
Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jefferies are pathetic.
Dems better get to work.
Corporatists leadership there I fixed it❤️ain’t nothing changing til prosecution and consequences for all corporatists
Sure thing, but at a certain point, these articles start to feel like victim blaming. The Dems aren’t the ones routinely violating the law and the Constitution.
The USA needs to overcome billionaire influence more than any particular party.
Otherwise nothing will change significantly, that what drives people to be turned against each other and their own best interests.
I disagree.
Democrats can stay as the right wing party.
Republicans can find other jobs.
They should have all stepped down last November
People want a government that equably governs in their interest. They just don’t trust the Democratic Party to deliver it.
What are you all doing to get better Democrats elected in the primary and the general?
Third way democrats and neoliberalism has been nothing but a failure.
The problem that a lot of people are forgetting is that if what Democrats did actually mattered to the voting population, they wouldn’t have voted for Republicans.
I keep saying this but I would bet that 90% of the people reading my post have no fucking clue about HR 1 to HR 10 in 2019 and 2021.
None of you have a single fucking clue about what that legislation was or was trying to do.
So how can you expect the average American re…. voter to understand why they should vote Democrat.
The reason they are always seeming to be middle of the road on issues is that ***THEY’RE NOT TRYING TO GET YOUR FUCKING VOTE***.
They’re trying to get the vote of the ***OTHER PEOPLE*** they need to actually win elections.
Right? Does that make sense?
Look at Mamdani as a good fucking example. I’m glad he won as mayor. He will be good for New York.
But it was ***NOT*** a blow out guys. He won with 50.78% of the fucking vote.
FIFTY ONE PERCENT.
If you have any political sense ***at all*** it would tell you that going hard on things like what Mamdani wants, even in BLUE AS FUCK NEW YORK CITY, only gets you so far – especially for Democrats on the national scale.
So if you’re Democrats, you have to play this weird fucking game where you have to figure out where to thread the needle because the American voter is so unbelievably fucking dumb, they can’t tell what’s actually good for them.
Worry about ***winning elections first*** then worry about what you’ll do after you win.
Win at all costs is the most important thing in this moment.
Stupid infighting shit every day. Dems didn’t do this, and fixing it isn’t their job. The voters failed. Democracy failed.
Dump them by voting better. That’s how it works. We are in charge
And when the republic falls all the lefties can cling to their purity for comfort I suppose.
I can agree with this to some extent. But its a voting problem.
The people wanted this. They still do. Won’t speak for Schumer but Jeffries will maul any challenger at the moment.
The unfortunate part of progressivism is that they cant accept that most people dont want the shit that they want outside of in an abstract thought. I do, but I understand that populations move at a snails pace.
CHUCK Schumer!
The primaries are going to be SUPER important this year. Democratic voters need to be aware that we can squash these fascists if we send the right people to the general election. That means NOT always voting for the Democrat currently elected. If your gut is telling you someone else is better then go for that person.
The frustration with Democratic leadership being too accommodating to right-wing forces is palpable throughout these discussions. People keep pointing out that we’ve been on this trajectory since at least the Bush era, when similar authoritarian tendencies went unchecked by moderate Democrats. The real issue isn’t just weak leadership but leadership that’s ideologically aligned with maintaining the status quo rather than challenging it. We need to recognize that voting alone isn’t enough when the choices presented are between center-right and far-right options. The lack of viable progressive alternatives creates a vacuum where people feel trapped between bad options. This dynamic explains why some voters might prefer far-left candidates over centrist Democrats when they’re truly dissatisfied with the current system.
Instead of talking about getting rid of Democrats, why aren’t we talking about getting rid of fascist Republicans? Who’s side is left media on, exactly?
People need to realize oligarchs and foreign governments can buy left media too. How many leftist media figures have flipped sides already? TYT? Tim Poole? Any of those ring a bell?
If someone is telling you to attack your own at a time like this, they might not really be on your side.
There’s too many braindead centrist lib lovers who will keep voting and donating to these helpless wastes of space.
vOtE bLuE nO mAtTeR wHo
Every lib who called the Gaza genocide an unreasonable purity test is now wondering why the same AIPAC money sucking blobs don’t care to stop the Gestapo at home.
Overcoming misinformation will require media with integrity.
“Defeating fascism will require defeating their collaborators”
Correct.
Yes lets blame this all on Dems and let MAGA off the hook. I know that Democrats’ leadership is garbage, but so is the GOP’s,. this both sides are bad crap is why we are here, say whatever you want about Chuck and Jefferies they are not the ones deploying troops to States and threatening allies and attacking other countries, or as GOP leadership is doing, making up excuses for them to be doing this.
What is the minority party supposed to do when they do not have enough vote to essentially do anything.
Almost they can do is hold the funding bill hostage.
If you don’t have 60 votes you don’t have anything.
Blame the centrist that voted for trump because both were the same
This reads as, if republicans are going to get hurt then democrats also.must get hurt.
Take some responbility for your party for allowing a convicted felon and pedophile to get power. Its so hard to be mad at both parties when one of them is blatantly worse.
Agree
Schumer has to go. He’s the Party’s version of whatever the hell Paul Begala was supposed to be on CrossFire.
Overcoming Uselesstarianism
“We just need to somehow incorporate the correct amount of Fascism into our party” Chuck Schumer probably
What America actually wants and needs is a left-wing option. There are two right parties.
We need to send Schumer to the Hague along with every Republican and ICE agent in the nation.
Democratic ‘Leadership’, this cabal of nitwitted, self-flagellating, eunuchs could take a veto-proof majority in both chambers and turn it into a policy victory for Trump.
In a time of a real national emergency, enter the opposition who are so inept they care far more about keeping their jobs than saving the country.
Useless twats. They should have fire in their bellies but instead show up with wet handkerchiefs.
History shows they’ll end up in the gulag with those that they fail to support as their enemy views them as being no different to all the other minorities needing to be dealt with.
People in congress should only be able to serve a limited number of years. I truly believe that if they stay too long, they start to get off on the power trip and become addicted to the greed. And that is what is ruining our country.
It will involve ending the GOP.
These Dinosaurs need to fuck away.