Trump Team Demands Right to Destroy Evidence in Alex Pretti Shooting | A judge ruled over the weekend that the government is barred from “destroying or altering” evidence related to the investigation.
Trump Team Demands Right to Destroy Evidence in Alex Pretti Shooting | A judge ruled over the weekend that the government is barred from “destroying or altering” evidence related to the investigation.
RICO charges need to be brought against this entire administration once this madness is over.
THE-LORD-RETURNS on
Who’s going to stop them?
InYoScunt on
A judge should not have to rule on destroying evidence. Our government are cartoons.
interwebz_2021 on
Good fucking luck. Enough evidence is already out there and the truth is known. No amount of lying to America and the world is going to be enough. Neither the public nor a jury will ever accept the bullshit they’re trying to feed us. When (not if) the long arm of the law comes for the people who did this, and those who ordered and abetted it, we will already know the truth, and justice WILL be served.
They greatly overestimate the number of Americans who love the taste of their boot leather enough to swallow their lies.
Due-Beautiful-5895 on
reading this like “Trump team demands right to destroy evidence” and I am like………… seriously? never in a million yrs did i think that headline would be real. glad the judge said nope but also like why was this even on the table? this situation overall is just a huge mess.
Comfortable-Tart-775 on
The trials of the entire surviving administration will be the biggest event for schadenfreude in global history.
caitnicrun on
Totally something innocent people would demand.
FluffyPantsMcGee on
Demanding right to destroy evidence… I’m sure they’ll AI up their own evidence
ClimateNuremberg on
Guaranteed that they already destroyed evidence and are asking for permission to do so now. So the judge best be ready to throw them into Guantanamo Bay.
KidKilobyte on
It’s apparently Walz’s fault for not convincing people to not exercise their 1st amendment rights. That is the logic being proposed by the Trump administration.
Time-Cardiologist906 on
That’s actually insane.
Competitive_Yam7702 on
Theyve already done it. THe moaning is a cover up
FastCar2467 on
So what they’re saying is they already destroyed or altered the evidence.
iAMguppy on
The unique thing about our current time and place is that the government is slow and data and people are fast. I’m not saying it’ll prevent anything or everything, but one thing it will do is help with controlling the narrative.
Imagine if nobody had filmed or posted anything that happened. Then they could tamper with evidence, report falsely against what happened, etc.
Make no mistake they’re still trying to do just that, but at least in its modern state, the internet is still disseminating and enabling we the people to provide our own narrative.
sweatengine on
Everyone has already seen enough evidence. Not sure what they are trying to accomplish.
MourningRIF on
Go ahead and destroy it. We have plenty to convict with. You destroying it just makes your case that much weaker. And in what fucking world is it ever necessary to destroy evidence in the first place? It’s one thing to ignore it. It’s another to destroy it. This isn’t a Yacht baby on Lake Michigan.
GeologistOriginal800 on
When the punishment for destroying evidence is less than what would come of the evidence, they will destroy it.
rupert0331 on
I’m telling you we’re gonna need to fire back at some point or this tyranny isn’t going to stop.
brithus on
Their reasoning is basically that they dont want to submit to any oversight or compliance requirements. These people seem to think that this administration is not answerable to anyone. In their own words noone should “boss the federal government around about how it carries on that authority. ”
> Plaintiffs contend that there is no harm to the government from the
> issuance of a TRO in this matter. Not so. Defendants are preserving information related
> to Saturday’s incident consistent with law. Entry of a court order to benefit state and
> local agencies, when they have no legal right to this information, is neither appropriate
> nor reasonable. The Federal government would then be subject to supervision by this
> Court and by Plaintiffs. The requested preservation order also could harm Defendants
> by overlaying their existing obligations with a Court order, creating a risk of potentially burdensome consequences. Compliance disputes could also inappropriately inject the
> Court into Defendants’ records management.
>
>
> > Plaintiffs do not
> > dispute that Defendants have ample authority to collect and maintain the evidence in
> > question and nothing in the Tenth Amendment permits the Plaintiffs to boss the federal
> > government around about how it carries on that authority.
> >
ineligibleUser on
Too late
More-Conversation931 on
So you might as well come out and say that it was a crime.
mspk7305 on
Oh thats cute. They will do it anyhow.
Killersavage on
Destroying evidence is what innocent upstanding people do?
REXIS_AGECKO on
“I would never try to cover my tracks!”
Scorpionoshow on
If not guilty, why destroy evidence?
Temporary-Share5153 on
If everything was on the up-and-up there was no need to destroy anything.
KRHarshee on
I demand the right to bear arms.
ThirdSunRising on
Oh, a court order, I’m sure that’ll stop em
SoggyBoysenberry7703 on
What the fuck?? Get this fucker out of the white house!!
Rfun2024 on
HOW is this even a QUESTION ??? has the world gone mad?
StrigiStockBacking on
Wait, they actually ASKED to destroy evidence???? LOL since when have they asked anyone for any of their backwards neo-colonial bullshit maneuvers???
Abrandnewrapture on
HOW IS THIS EVEN A THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED?
We live in the worst timeline.
ISVenom on
No need to destroy evidence if no wrong doing was done. So are they admitting wrong doing?
Catspaw129 on
Next: ICE wasn’t even there that day, that was just a bunch of libruls cosplaying.
FF36 on
Jesus all you Magats, if dear leader wants to destroy evidence is there a chance you can admit there is guilt on your side? Can you admit being wrong ever?
elijuicyjones on
All of you who voted for Trump now is your chance to chime in and take credit for this.
chester-12 on
What in the actual fuck?
DesignerCorner3322 on
Something is seriously wrong in this world if an administration is demanding they be able to alter evidence and are not getting in trouble for it
Ms_Stepped on
This is not the behavior of innocent people.
Article 2, section 4 NOW!
elementality883 on
“The right to destroy evidence” in a shooting that is only days old should be very telling what said evidence proves.
Wild_Pokemon_Appears on
They’ll do it anyway and there will be zero consequences other than a judge issuing an order of contempt… For which nothing will happen to anyone.
Darth_vaborbactam on
Only guilty people would want to destroy evidence.
Aubusson124 on
The evidence that they are likely destroying is camera footage that shows who fired and when. Also shells that would have fingerprints, indicating who fired shots. ICE collected all of them. The ICE agent who stole Alex Pretti’s firearm has fingerprints all over it, and some say that he fired the weapon, prompting the others to open fire.
If this evidence is destroyed, none of them can be held accountable.
F1BlackFlag on
When KKKaroline keeps saying this administration is the most transparent in history, it means exactly the opposite
JohnAStark on
Super fucking throw the book at these lawless assholes.
fartMachinist on
Is anyone wondering why a judge would even need to do this? Evidence tampering is already illegal. The fact that we need to put this on the record for them is beyond the pale, my fellow Americans.
Slamtilt_Windmills on
Ok, but how do you un-destroy evidence when they ignore the judge?
Miguel-odon on
The government should NEVER be destroying evidence.
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RICO charges need to be brought against this entire administration once this madness is over.
Who’s going to stop them?
A judge should not have to rule on destroying evidence. Our government are cartoons.
Good fucking luck. Enough evidence is already out there and the truth is known. No amount of lying to America and the world is going to be enough. Neither the public nor a jury will ever accept the bullshit they’re trying to feed us. When (not if) the long arm of the law comes for the people who did this, and those who ordered and abetted it, we will already know the truth, and justice WILL be served.
They greatly overestimate the number of Americans who love the taste of their boot leather enough to swallow their lies.
reading this like “Trump team demands right to destroy evidence” and I am like………… seriously? never in a million yrs did i think that headline would be real. glad the judge said nope but also like why was this even on the table? this situation overall is just a huge mess.
The trials of the entire surviving administration will be the biggest event for schadenfreude in global history.
Totally something innocent people would demand.
Demanding right to destroy evidence… I’m sure they’ll AI up their own evidence
Guaranteed that they already destroyed evidence and are asking for permission to do so now. So the judge best be ready to throw them into Guantanamo Bay.
It’s apparently Walz’s fault for not convincing people to not exercise their 1st amendment rights. That is the logic being proposed by the Trump administration.
That’s actually insane.
Theyve already done it. THe moaning is a cover up
So what they’re saying is they already destroyed or altered the evidence.
The unique thing about our current time and place is that the government is slow and data and people are fast. I’m not saying it’ll prevent anything or everything, but one thing it will do is help with controlling the narrative.
Imagine if nobody had filmed or posted anything that happened. Then they could tamper with evidence, report falsely against what happened, etc.
Make no mistake they’re still trying to do just that, but at least in its modern state, the internet is still disseminating and enabling we the people to provide our own narrative.
Everyone has already seen enough evidence. Not sure what they are trying to accomplish.
Go ahead and destroy it. We have plenty to convict with. You destroying it just makes your case that much weaker. And in what fucking world is it ever necessary to destroy evidence in the first place? It’s one thing to ignore it. It’s another to destroy it. This isn’t a Yacht baby on Lake Michigan.
When the punishment for destroying evidence is less than what would come of the evidence, they will destroy it.
I’m telling you we’re gonna need to fire back at some point or this tyranny isn’t going to stop.
Their reasoning is basically that they dont want to submit to any oversight or compliance requirements. These people seem to think that this administration is not answerable to anyone. In their own words noone should “boss the federal government around about how it carries on that authority. ”
From the [filing](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230788/gov.uscourts.mnd.230788.14.0_3.pdf):
> Plaintiffs contend that there is no harm to the government from the
> issuance of a TRO in this matter. Not so. Defendants are preserving information related
> to Saturday’s incident consistent with law. Entry of a court order to benefit state and
> local agencies, when they have no legal right to this information, is neither appropriate
> nor reasonable. The Federal government would then be subject to supervision by this
> Court and by Plaintiffs. The requested preservation order also could harm Defendants
> by overlaying their existing obligations with a Court order, creating a risk of potentially burdensome consequences. Compliance disputes could also inappropriately inject the
> Court into Defendants’ records management.
>
>
> > Plaintiffs do not
> > dispute that Defendants have ample authority to collect and maintain the evidence in
> > question and nothing in the Tenth Amendment permits the Plaintiffs to boss the federal
> > government around about how it carries on that authority.
> >
Too late
So you might as well come out and say that it was a crime.
Oh thats cute. They will do it anyhow.
Destroying evidence is what innocent upstanding people do?
“I would never try to cover my tracks!”
If not guilty, why destroy evidence?
If everything was on the up-and-up there was no need to destroy anything.
I demand the right to bear arms.
Oh, a court order, I’m sure that’ll stop em
What the fuck?? Get this fucker out of the white house!!
HOW is this even a QUESTION ??? has the world gone mad?
Wait, they actually ASKED to destroy evidence???? LOL since when have they asked anyone for any of their backwards neo-colonial bullshit maneuvers???
HOW IS THIS EVEN A THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED?
We live in the worst timeline.
No need to destroy evidence if no wrong doing was done. So are they admitting wrong doing?
Next: ICE wasn’t even there that day, that was just a bunch of libruls cosplaying.
Jesus all you Magats, if dear leader wants to destroy evidence is there a chance you can admit there is guilt on your side? Can you admit being wrong ever?
All of you who voted for Trump now is your chance to chime in and take credit for this.
What in the actual fuck?
Something is seriously wrong in this world if an administration is demanding they be able to alter evidence and are not getting in trouble for it
This is not the behavior of innocent people.
Article 2, section 4 NOW!
“The right to destroy evidence” in a shooting that is only days old should be very telling what said evidence proves.
They’ll do it anyway and there will be zero consequences other than a judge issuing an order of contempt… For which nothing will happen to anyone.
Only guilty people would want to destroy evidence.
The evidence that they are likely destroying is camera footage that shows who fired and when. Also shells that would have fingerprints, indicating who fired shots. ICE collected all of them. The ICE agent who stole Alex Pretti’s firearm has fingerprints all over it, and some say that he fired the weapon, prompting the others to open fire.
If this evidence is destroyed, none of them can be held accountable.
When KKKaroline keeps saying this administration is the most transparent in history, it means exactly the opposite
Super fucking throw the book at these lawless assholes.
Is anyone wondering why a judge would even need to do this? Evidence tampering is already illegal. The fact that we need to put this on the record for them is beyond the pale, my fellow Americans.
Ok, but how do you un-destroy evidence when they ignore the judge?
The government should NEVER be destroying evidence.