Says the company that’s selling out and moving production to the States. GFY bèn dàn
Decent-Gas-7042 on
GM should make better EVs. They were the leader and deliberately gave it up, I have no sympathy
ExtensionParsley4205 on
Cool, maybe don’t shut down plants here and we’ll care what you think.
Professional-Cry8310 on
“Barra made it clear she sees the deal as working against efforts to bolster a strong North American manufacturing base. The underlying concern is one of both economic and strategic security.”
So is it North American economic security you’re after, or just American? Go fuck yourself.
PeanutButterViking on
And they just laid off 1200 workers in Oshawa.
1. Any time our government provides funding (tax breaks, grants, loans, etc) there should be a clawback mechanism that if they can’t guarantee minimum production for X years then the funding must be paid back and the production facility itself is put up as collateral.
2. If you want to sell in Canada, then you must have some investment in Canada. I know we aren’t a huge market but I don’t think this is unreasonable.
I’m so sick of giant corporations privatizing their wins but “socializing” their losses along with blaming everyone except themselves.
FalseZookeepergame15 on
As DJ Khaled said, ” You played yourself!”
Internal_Nothing_389 on
Aw are GM execs worried about how superior the Chinese EVs are compared to the crap GM has been putting out? What a shame. I for one am glad these automakers that have been gouging us with their prices are going to get a wake up call.
Desperate_Leg6274 on
Good. Don’t ever give a cent to these leeches again
Some-Pollution-6781 on
去你的通用汽车，看看我这辆更胜一筹的比亚迪！
Primary-Efficiency91 on
Oh no!!
In other news, water is wet and completely predictable outcomes are completely predictable.
chipdanger168 on
Time to get all our tax money back from GM
Pale_Change_666 on
Has she tried making decent vehicles that are somewhat affordable and doesnt explode even before the warranty is over?
mrduckott on
Why is this framing it like we just went out and did this to spite CUSMA?
Canada was side by side with the US to keep Chinese EVs out of North america, bolster the inter country auto supply chain until you guys elected dementia dony.
Maybe US automakers shouldn’t have gotten on their frickin knees for a fascist regime and pushed back instead.
What’s the difference between Canada and the US. The US has good neighbors.
wrenchedups on
GM not thrilled that they may need to reduce quarterly dividends to remain competitive.
BabadookOfEarl on
No being loyal to people who will never be loyal to you.
TrueTorontoFan on
they dont really want to compete in the EV space and they just cut a shift recently so why do we want ot bow down to what they want
PreettyPreettygood on
Capitalists scream for government to get out of the way except if getting out of the way hurts their profits.
GM (and Chrysler) have been making trash cars for decades. Instead of crying about competition and asking for gov bailouts… maybe make a decent car to compete in the market.
ghost_n_the_shell on
Man.
Get bent.
gwelfguy on
In a nutshell, Barra wants Canadians to buy GM vehicles. She just doesn’t want to build them here.
No-Doubt-3256 on
I don’t get it. You’re abandoning us GM. We have to do something. Those 1200 workers might want to have a word.
Pepakins on
The problem is the big three produce absolute garbage. Maybe more competition will allow innovation. The US wants to bring home manufacturing. So why would we work with them when jobs are actively being shipped south?
According_Comedian69 on
Gm is upset they need to become competitive?
ChristJesusDisciple on
Ughhh, we have soooo much talent in Canada. We csn really step up to fill these voids.
I’m doing my part with my business, and hoping other Canadians do the same.
We are the most educated, lets use that to our advantage. Dont let education prevent you from taking risk.
ballpein on
I can’t wait to hear about everything GM is doing to influence US politics in a positive direction.
Oh wait, they’re not, because capitalism loves fascism.
jpsolberg33 on
Well I wasn’t thrilled they ditched google/apple for their own system which you have to pay for. Not thrilled they ditched Allison for their POS 10 speed transmission. Of course there’s the slow bleeding of cuts to Canadian production here over the past 25 years and the bailout the cried for.
I’d much rather see Asian and Euro brands takeover GM facilities.
Fords new SD plant is HUGE and they’re boosting production and jobs. So clearly Ford can plan long term far better than GM.
Wagoner, Fritz and Bera have been easily the worst CEOs GM has had.
Apprehensive-Mix1863 on
Fuck GM. Remember when they were bailed out on the taxpayer’s dime in 2009, flipped us the finger and then shifted production elsewhere? Fuck GM.
Adventurous-Owl-6085 on
I thought these people were capitalists? Shouldn’t they welcome competition?
govdove on
They’re leaving anyway. Who cares what they think
jackclark1 on
talk about tone deaf they just cuts 1200 Canadian jobs
kachunkk on
Canadians shouldn’t give a shit about GM whining about Chinese trade deals because the company has spent the last two decades treating our tax dollars like an ATM while systematically gutting our towns. It’s a total scam. They extracted a $10.8 billion bailout in 2009 under the guise of saving jobs only to wait for the government to sell its shares (thanks Harper) before shuttering Oshawa. Then they double-dipped in 2022, taking another $259 million for an EV hub that they’ve already started dismantling by killing production in Ingersoll and slashing shifts in Oshawa this month.
GM is bitching about fair competition from China but they authorized $6 billion in share buybacks and aare moving production to Mexico and the States on our dime. They’ve proven they have zero loyalty to the Canadian worker. They have no right to lecture us about who we trade with. If they can offshore our jobs while their pockets are lined with our money then Canadians shouldn’t feel an ounce of guilt for looking at cheaper Chinese options. At the end of the day, GM isn’t worried about the Canadian industry. They’re just worried their taxpayer-funded gravy train is finally hitting the end of the line.
bjm64 on
“Speaking to [GM](https://www.carscoops.com/tag/gm/) employees earlier this week, she addressed the issue head-on. “I can’t explain why the decision was made in Canada,” she said, pointing to what she sees as a risky path forward.”
When you start shrinking your presence in Canada and you make that statement, your either out of touch or gaslighting your employees, Ingersoll deserves better, Oshawa deserves better, industry will fill the void you leave behind
Narrow-Map5805 on
GM boss wants what’s best for major GM shareholders, not what’s best for Canadians.
EvilDan69 on
You know what GM was thrilled about? Accepting funding from the Canadian government, then pulling out a massive amount of Canadian manufacturing.
larry-mack on
They still expect support from Canada when they are destroying our auto industry.
rhunter99 on
F* America. This is the same GM that just killed a shift in Oshawa
Let_me_at_them007 on
That’s great.. are you giving back the 400 plus million that the Federal government handed out to GM?
ParisFood on
Well Canada is not thrilled with the GM Layoffs and would like their subsidies they gave GM back
Positive_Thing_2292 on
“I can’t explain why the decision was made in Canada,” she said,
Hmmmm. North American manufacturing base? She means American manufacturing. That’s not us, sorry.
laxvolley on
So she wants to take all our subsidies, close the plants here and put our people out of work, and then whine we don’t give them more money?
KamiPigeon on
Imagine being the leader of EVs in the 90’s with the EV-1 and then buying back all the leases and crushing the cars because they were too good.
Imagine creating the Volt in 2011 post bankruptcy promising a technologically advanced future, discontinuing the vehicle in 2019 with no real series hybrid follow-up.
Imagine creating the Bolt to compete against the Tesla Model 3 and then giving up… And then bringing it back… And then giving up after 1 reborn model year.
You had 4 chances to continue and build a legacy of increasingly affordable EVs and you keep fumbling it and giving away the market and technology to other OEMs.
With the Oshawa plant going down to two shifts and the CAMI plant being shuttered, the Canadian Government better not bail you out again if/when that time comes.
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Says the company that’s selling out and moving production to the States. GFY bèn dàn
GM should make better EVs. They were the leader and deliberately gave it up, I have no sympathy
Cool, maybe don’t shut down plants here and we’ll care what you think.
“Barra made it clear she sees the deal as working against efforts to bolster a strong North American manufacturing base. The underlying concern is one of both economic and strategic security.”
Yeah okay. Literally this week: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/gm-oshawa-to-lay-off-1-200-workers-friday-9.7065457
So is it North American economic security you’re after, or just American? Go fuck yourself.
And they just laid off 1200 workers in Oshawa.
1. Any time our government provides funding (tax breaks, grants, loans, etc) there should be a clawback mechanism that if they can’t guarantee minimum production for X years then the funding must be paid back and the production facility itself is put up as collateral.
2. If you want to sell in Canada, then you must have some investment in Canada. I know we aren’t a huge market but I don’t think this is unreasonable.
I’m so sick of giant corporations privatizing their wins but “socializing” their losses along with blaming everyone except themselves.
As DJ Khaled said, ” You played yourself!”
Aw are GM execs worried about how superior the Chinese EVs are compared to the crap GM has been putting out? What a shame. I for one am glad these automakers that have been gouging us with their prices are going to get a wake up call.
Good. Don’t ever give a cent to these leeches again
去你的通用汽车，看看我这辆更胜一筹的比亚迪！
Oh no!!
In other news, water is wet and completely predictable outcomes are completely predictable.
Time to get all our tax money back from GM
Has she tried making decent vehicles that are somewhat affordable and doesnt explode even before the warranty is over?
Why is this framing it like we just went out and did this to spite CUSMA?
Canada was side by side with the US to keep Chinese EVs out of North america, bolster the inter country auto supply chain until you guys elected dementia dony.
Maybe US automakers shouldn’t have gotten on their frickin knees for a fascist regime and pushed back instead.
What’s the difference between Canada and the US. The US has good neighbors.
GM not thrilled that they may need to reduce quarterly dividends to remain competitive.
No being loyal to people who will never be loyal to you.
they dont really want to compete in the EV space and they just cut a shift recently so why do we want ot bow down to what they want
Capitalists scream for government to get out of the way except if getting out of the way hurts their profits.
GM (and Chrysler) have been making trash cars for decades. Instead of crying about competition and asking for gov bailouts… maybe make a decent car to compete in the market.
Man.
Get bent.
In a nutshell, Barra wants Canadians to buy GM vehicles. She just doesn’t want to build them here.
I don’t get it. You’re abandoning us GM. We have to do something. Those 1200 workers might want to have a word.
The problem is the big three produce absolute garbage. Maybe more competition will allow innovation. The US wants to bring home manufacturing. So why would we work with them when jobs are actively being shipped south?
Gm is upset they need to become competitive?
Ughhh, we have soooo much talent in Canada. We csn really step up to fill these voids.
I’m doing my part with my business, and hoping other Canadians do the same.
We are the most educated, lets use that to our advantage. Dont let education prevent you from taking risk.
I can’t wait to hear about everything GM is doing to influence US politics in a positive direction.
Oh wait, they’re not, because capitalism loves fascism.
Well I wasn’t thrilled they ditched google/apple for their own system which you have to pay for. Not thrilled they ditched Allison for their POS 10 speed transmission. Of course there’s the slow bleeding of cuts to Canadian production here over the past 25 years and the bailout the cried for.
I’d much rather see Asian and Euro brands takeover GM facilities.
Fords new SD plant is HUGE and they’re boosting production and jobs. So clearly Ford can plan long term far better than GM.
Wagoner, Fritz and Bera have been easily the worst CEOs GM has had.
Fuck GM. Remember when they were bailed out on the taxpayer’s dime in 2009, flipped us the finger and then shifted production elsewhere? Fuck GM.
I thought these people were capitalists? Shouldn’t they welcome competition?
They’re leaving anyway. Who cares what they think
talk about tone deaf they just cuts 1200 Canadian jobs
Canadians shouldn’t give a shit about GM whining about Chinese trade deals because the company has spent the last two decades treating our tax dollars like an ATM while systematically gutting our towns. It’s a total scam. They extracted a $10.8 billion bailout in 2009 under the guise of saving jobs only to wait for the government to sell its shares (thanks Harper) before shuttering Oshawa. Then they double-dipped in 2022, taking another $259 million for an EV hub that they’ve already started dismantling by killing production in Ingersoll and slashing shifts in Oshawa this month.
GM is bitching about fair competition from China but they authorized $6 billion in share buybacks and aare moving production to Mexico and the States on our dime. They’ve proven they have zero loyalty to the Canadian worker. They have no right to lecture us about who we trade with. If they can offshore our jobs while their pockets are lined with our money then Canadians shouldn’t feel an ounce of guilt for looking at cheaper Chinese options. At the end of the day, GM isn’t worried about the Canadian industry. They’re just worried their taxpayer-funded gravy train is finally hitting the end of the line.
“Speaking to [GM](https://www.carscoops.com/tag/gm/) employees earlier this week, she addressed the issue head-on. “I can’t explain why the decision was made in Canada,” she said, pointing to what she sees as a risky path forward.”
When you start shrinking your presence in Canada and you make that statement, your either out of touch or gaslighting your employees, Ingersoll deserves better, Oshawa deserves better, industry will fill the void you leave behind
GM boss wants what’s best for major GM shareholders, not what’s best for Canadians.
You know what GM was thrilled about? Accepting funding from the Canadian government, then pulling out a massive amount of Canadian manufacturing.
They still expect support from Canada when they are destroying our auto industry.
F* America. This is the same GM that just killed a shift in Oshawa
That’s great.. are you giving back the 400 plus million that the Federal government handed out to GM?
Well Canada is not thrilled with the GM Layoffs and would like their subsidies they gave GM back
“I can’t explain why the decision was made in Canada,” she said,
Hmmmm. North American manufacturing base? She means American manufacturing. That’s not us, sorry.
So she wants to take all our subsidies, close the plants here and put our people out of work, and then whine we don’t give them more money?
Imagine being the leader of EVs in the 90’s with the EV-1 and then buying back all the leases and crushing the cars because they were too good.
Imagine creating the Volt in 2011 post bankruptcy promising a technologically advanced future, discontinuing the vehicle in 2019 with no real series hybrid follow-up.
Imagine creating the Bolt to compete against the Tesla Model 3 and then giving up… And then bringing it back… And then giving up after 1 reborn model year.
You had 4 chances to continue and build a legacy of increasingly affordable EVs and you keep fumbling it and giving away the market and technology to other OEMs.
With the Oshawa plant going down to two shifts and the CAMI plant being shuttered, the Canadian Government better not bail you out again if/when that time comes.