I had to prove my citizenship when I registered. Why should I have to prove it again if I am on the voter rolls?
Wildpony03 on
Isn’t this just another way of saying poll tax? If you introduce any hurdles that keep people from voting its a poll tax.
thieh on
A vast majority of cases of voter fraud are committed by people voting for republicans. 🤔
accountabilitycounts on
So not even the REAL ID can be used in 45 out of 50 states (for the extremely pendantic). This needs to be fast tracked to SCOTUS if it passes and is signed into law.
RoosterMedical on
Even the Trump cult will probably be pissed off with the money that they will need to spend for voting ID.
ElectricZ on
By the way if this passes, and you’re married and took the name of your spouse, and that name doesn’t match your legit birth certificate or passport that you bring as ID, guess what happens?
returnofthecursed on
They made up a problem where their “solution” is to take away voting rights from citizens.
It’s mask-off fascism and it’s unacceptable. It’s treasonous and unamerican. Fuckers.
jrsinhbca on
Say goodbye to mail in voting.
Joe18067 on
I want these people who come up with these so called laws to prove that they’re human.
omerome83 on
It’s beyond obvious that the GOP are scared shitless about this election. If they were confident, they wouldn’t be going thorough such blatant methods to make it harder to vote.
So, my question is, what in the actual fuck are there still Democrats out there that still want to “reach across the aisle” for bipartisanship? At this point, if they vote on ANYTHING for this regime, they are no better than the GOP themselves and THAT needs to be plastered across EVERYWHERE.
There should be no day where these actual trash human beings should experience peace. Everyday should be condemnation of their corruption and any Democrats that refuse to rise to the moment should be considered collaborators and need to be voted OUT.
CockBrother on
So how is 1/3 of the population of the US supposed to get a passport (which, while accepted at the polling place, will not be accepted at the ICE checkpoint you have to go through) by November?
Government is up for issuing tens of millions of passports by then? No. No they’re not.
This is simply to stop people from voting. At all.
South-Arachnid2961 on
So, will every military member get leave and paid travel to go back to their home of record to prove their citizenship? Or will they just be blankety disenfranchised?
AcanthisittaNo6653 on
If you an Independent or Democrat, get started now locating your birth certificate or applying for a replacement. If you are Republican, take your time…
LiveChocolate8819 on
DOA in the Senate
CrimsonHeretic on
All Republicans are fascist domestic terrorists.
square600 on
I wish they would fast track bills that actually help American citizens instead of hedging their own reelection bets.
Bugger9525 on
This is why they want the voter rolls. Then they can deny your id if you’re a registered democrat.
keizokro on
In what universe does this clear 60 votes in the Senate?
ccjohns2 on
What is the point of registering to vote if these morons want people to bring their entire file cabinet worth of documents to actually vote. I hooe voting records from 2016, and 2020 are preserved and made public so the entire world can see who helped this mad man and all his corrupt criminal friends take over the USA.
bane_undone on
Funny thinking that rural voters will get together paperwork more than democrats. This could actually bite them in the butt.
IntellectAndEnergy on
Nobody hates America more than these people.
KrustyButtCheeks on
Gee, I wonder if this is why Trump is shit posting at midnight
aircooledJenkins on
>”In most states, that means voters, even those who are already on the rolls, would need to bring a passport or original birth certificate to the polls. Only states with ‘enhanced’ driver licenses — Michigan, New York, Vermont, Minnesota and Washington — satisfy the SAVE America Act’s heightened requirements — a REAL ID (used in most states) won’t cut it.”
Then… what in the actual fuck was the point of the REAL ID?
hymen_destroyer on
For now, elections are still administered by the states. I know the constitution doesn’t mean anything anymore but they’ll have to tear that part of it up before this happens (in addition to the parts they’ve already torn up)
And I’ll be there collecting the scraps. Collecting “receipts”, if you will
elmekia_lance on
so REAl ID is worth nothing lmao
F-Cloud on
Adoptees could be denied the right to vote if this passes. In sealed adoptions, the adoptee will only have an amended birth certificate. The original can be obtained but only a judge can unseal it. State laws differ in their requirements for unsealing the original, so in some states it may be difficult to obtain it.
gm92845 on
Listen guys this isn’t me trying to spread hopium but we’re legitimately witnessing the final spasms of a political party in its death throes. This is the last pathetic attempt they’re trying to force through to have any chance of maintaining relevancy after this election cycle. I can’t wait until I can finally say good fucking riddance.
4rt4tt4ck on
This will never get the 60 votes required in the Senate.
allnadream on
I hope that this doesn’t pass, but if it does, this liberal girl did *not* change her last name when she married AND has a valid passport ready to go. So, I’ll be middle finger pumping my way to the polls.
jomara200 on
Fucking traitors. Remember that it’s not all Trump. Without these traitors he would not have been able to do as he has done. They are ALL traitors.
secret_of_pseudonym on
“GOP fast tracks monster bill that could disenfranchise millions”
*Another Thursday* is what they call it.
RoseCityHooligan on
I was under the impression that voting was controlled by the states. I know the constitution means nothing to republicans and the corrupt Supreme Court will side with their party over law but wtf?
FrenchBulldozer on
This will hurt the GOP just as much as they think it’ll hurt the dems. A lot of rural people have never been outside the country and never needed a passport. Some don’t even fly so a REALID isn’t essential. Just like their attempt to gerrymander things to their favor the GOP shows how shortsighted their schemes are.
trogdor1234 on
I brought my birth certificate to get my drivers license and they wouldn’t take it. Because they only take certain types of birth certificates.
I had no freakin clue until that point that my birth certificate I had was basically worthless.
This will be messy. People will need to be able to certify birth certificates from multiple decades from multiple places. It’s a joke.
mxby7e on
Its unconstitutional. Elections are run by the state. It’s a non-starter. The fascists are getting more transparent daily, which means they’re loosing grasp.
Alwaystired254 on
Voter id is fine, but the federal govt needs to offer citizens free ID
Cael_NaMaor on
Hahaha… the REAL ID bs that they’ve been pimping for years that I’m gonna have to get in 6mos because my time is up, doesn’t even work. Hahaha….
What a f*kin’ scam this entire country is
notie547 on
there has never been any issue with non-citizens voting! let me repeat. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY ISSUES WITH NON CITIZENS VOTING IN ELECTIONS.
TRUMP LIED, OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
The heritage foundation which is MAGA has been tracking voter fraud. Theyve compiled a list of less than 2,000 instances across 20+ years and BILLIONS of votes. It’s not an issue and anyone who says it is, is lying or a fool. But sure go ahead make it harder or impossible for millions of citizens to vote. What a great tradeoff. /s
I’m still waiting for Mike Lindell and Rudy Giuliani to present all their “evidence” from 2020, lol. This country is fucked. MAGA is a disease and the entire republican party is infected.
CivilWay1444 on
Smaller government. Make the states responsible. F U guys.
ezk3626 on
Cool… since they don’t have sixty votes in the Senate it’s all just looking busy to keep the President happy.
Safe_Ant7561 on
here’s the irony, they are going to disenfranchise a lot of people who would vote for them
IJourden on
Trying to keep people from voting has been a core Republican priority for at least the last 50 years.
Republicans know that their voters will have the means and motivation to vote even if it’s a huge pain in the ass, and that more voter turnout favors Democrats, so rather than try and come up with an appealing platform, they just put their thumb on the scales by making it as hard to vote as possible.
If you ever wonder why there isn’t easier access to voting, it’s 100% on Republicans.
And between all of their various forms of voter suppression from blocking mail in voting, shortening voting times, requiring gratuitous amounts of ID, gerrymandering… it’s super effective.
As someone who was very aware the system was fucked and moved to another country 15 years ago, one of the first things I realized once I was no longer drowning in US propaganda was that the system was even more fucked than I thought.
tyrionlannister on
I lost my birth certificate once and it took 12 weeks to get a copy sent to me and cost a fee..
Aaand I have no clue where it is now, since the only time I needed it was a decade ago.
It’s not supposed to cost money or require jumping through these hoops to vote.
I had to show my birth certificate for the drivers license. Everywhere else my citizenship has been transitive since then, or otherwise used in combination with my social security number.
This is fucking bullshit.
Bluetinfoilhat on
In order to be on the voter rolls, you have to show you are a citizen. There’s no point in having to show it again at the polls. This will also cause long lined.
on-strike on
The place for an original birth certificate is not in one’s person, they are fragile, particularly if they’re decades old. There are fees involved to have one reissued. Further, married females may be using their spouses surname, if so, their original birth certificate names will not match their current photo IDs.
N0S0UP_4U on
For Republicans confused as to why we would oppose initiatives like this:
> Republican backers say the measures are necessary to keep noncitizens from voting. But noncitizen voting is a crime that is easily caught and prosecuted, which is perhaps one reason why it’s exceedingly rare. Recent lengthy reviews of voter rolls conducted by Republican election administrators have turned up precious few instances of noncitizens even on the rolls, let alone voting. Meanwhile, registration file purges have improperly kicked thousands of legal voters off the rolls.
Noncitizens voting is a nonissue. The proposed remedies cause harm to solve an imaginary problem. It’s like Springfield’s “Bear Patrol” from The Simpsons. In this case this is being blown up to stop poor people from voting since they’re more likely to oppose the current administration.
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I had to prove my citizenship when I registered. Why should I have to prove it again if I am on the voter rolls?
Isn’t this just another way of saying poll tax? If you introduce any hurdles that keep people from voting its a poll tax.
A vast majority of cases of voter fraud are committed by people voting for republicans. 🤔
So not even the REAL ID can be used in 45 out of 50 states (for the extremely pendantic). This needs to be fast tracked to SCOTUS if it passes and is signed into law.
Even the Trump cult will probably be pissed off with the money that they will need to spend for voting ID.
By the way if this passes, and you’re married and took the name of your spouse, and that name doesn’t match your legit birth certificate or passport that you bring as ID, guess what happens?
They made up a problem where their “solution” is to take away voting rights from citizens.
It’s mask-off fascism and it’s unacceptable. It’s treasonous and unamerican. Fuckers.
Say goodbye to mail in voting.
I want these people who come up with these so called laws to prove that they’re human.
It’s beyond obvious that the GOP are scared shitless about this election. If they were confident, they wouldn’t be going thorough such blatant methods to make it harder to vote.
So, my question is, what in the actual fuck are there still Democrats out there that still want to “reach across the aisle” for bipartisanship? At this point, if they vote on ANYTHING for this regime, they are no better than the GOP themselves and THAT needs to be plastered across EVERYWHERE.
There should be no day where these actual trash human beings should experience peace. Everyday should be condemnation of their corruption and any Democrats that refuse to rise to the moment should be considered collaborators and need to be voted OUT.
So how is 1/3 of the population of the US supposed to get a passport (which, while accepted at the polling place, will not be accepted at the ICE checkpoint you have to go through) by November?
Government is up for issuing tens of millions of passports by then? No. No they’re not.
This is simply to stop people from voting. At all.
So, will every military member get leave and paid travel to go back to their home of record to prove their citizenship? Or will they just be blankety disenfranchised?
If you an Independent or Democrat, get started now locating your birth certificate or applying for a replacement. If you are Republican, take your time…
DOA in the Senate
All Republicans are fascist domestic terrorists.
I wish they would fast track bills that actually help American citizens instead of hedging their own reelection bets.
This is why they want the voter rolls. Then they can deny your id if you’re a registered democrat.
In what universe does this clear 60 votes in the Senate?
What is the point of registering to vote if these morons want people to bring their entire file cabinet worth of documents to actually vote. I hooe voting records from 2016, and 2020 are preserved and made public so the entire world can see who helped this mad man and all his corrupt criminal friends take over the USA.
Funny thinking that rural voters will get together paperwork more than democrats. This could actually bite them in the butt.
Nobody hates America more than these people.
Gee, I wonder if this is why Trump is shit posting at midnight
>”In most states, that means voters, even those who are already on the rolls, would need to bring a passport or original birth certificate to the polls. Only states with ‘enhanced’ driver licenses — Michigan, New York, Vermont, Minnesota and Washington — satisfy the SAVE America Act’s heightened requirements — a REAL ID (used in most states) won’t cut it.”
Then… what in the actual fuck was the point of the REAL ID?
For now, elections are still administered by the states. I know the constitution doesn’t mean anything anymore but they’ll have to tear that part of it up before this happens (in addition to the parts they’ve already torn up)
And I’ll be there collecting the scraps. Collecting “receipts”, if you will
so REAl ID is worth nothing lmao
Adoptees could be denied the right to vote if this passes. In sealed adoptions, the adoptee will only have an amended birth certificate. The original can be obtained but only a judge can unseal it. State laws differ in their requirements for unsealing the original, so in some states it may be difficult to obtain it.
Listen guys this isn’t me trying to spread hopium but we’re legitimately witnessing the final spasms of a political party in its death throes. This is the last pathetic attempt they’re trying to force through to have any chance of maintaining relevancy after this election cycle. I can’t wait until I can finally say good fucking riddance.
This will never get the 60 votes required in the Senate.
I hope that this doesn’t pass, but if it does, this liberal girl did *not* change her last name when she married AND has a valid passport ready to go. So, I’ll be middle finger pumping my way to the polls.
Fucking traitors. Remember that it’s not all Trump. Without these traitors he would not have been able to do as he has done. They are ALL traitors.
“GOP fast tracks monster bill that could disenfranchise millions”
*Another Thursday* is what they call it.
I was under the impression that voting was controlled by the states. I know the constitution means nothing to republicans and the corrupt Supreme Court will side with their party over law but wtf?
This will hurt the GOP just as much as they think it’ll hurt the dems. A lot of rural people have never been outside the country and never needed a passport. Some don’t even fly so a REALID isn’t essential. Just like their attempt to gerrymander things to their favor the GOP shows how shortsighted their schemes are.
I brought my birth certificate to get my drivers license and they wouldn’t take it. Because they only take certain types of birth certificates.
I had no freakin clue until that point that my birth certificate I had was basically worthless.
This will be messy. People will need to be able to certify birth certificates from multiple decades from multiple places. It’s a joke.
Its unconstitutional. Elections are run by the state. It’s a non-starter. The fascists are getting more transparent daily, which means they’re loosing grasp.
Voter id is fine, but the federal govt needs to offer citizens free ID
Hahaha… the REAL ID bs that they’ve been pimping for years that I’m gonna have to get in 6mos because my time is up, doesn’t even work. Hahaha….
What a f*kin’ scam this entire country is
there has never been any issue with non-citizens voting! let me repeat. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY ISSUES WITH NON CITIZENS VOTING IN ELECTIONS.
TRUMP LIED, OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
The heritage foundation which is MAGA has been tracking voter fraud. Theyve compiled a list of less than 2,000 instances across 20+ years and BILLIONS of votes. It’s not an issue and anyone who says it is, is lying or a fool. But sure go ahead make it harder or impossible for millions of citizens to vote. What a great tradeoff. /s
https://electionfraud.heritage.org/
I’m still waiting for Mike Lindell and Rudy Giuliani to present all their “evidence” from 2020, lol. This country is fucked. MAGA is a disease and the entire republican party is infected.
Smaller government. Make the states responsible. F U guys.
Cool… since they don’t have sixty votes in the Senate it’s all just looking busy to keep the President happy.
here’s the irony, they are going to disenfranchise a lot of people who would vote for them
Trying to keep people from voting has been a core Republican priority for at least the last 50 years.
Republicans know that their voters will have the means and motivation to vote even if it’s a huge pain in the ass, and that more voter turnout favors Democrats, so rather than try and come up with an appealing platform, they just put their thumb on the scales by making it as hard to vote as possible.
If you ever wonder why there isn’t easier access to voting, it’s 100% on Republicans.
And between all of their various forms of voter suppression from blocking mail in voting, shortening voting times, requiring gratuitous amounts of ID, gerrymandering… it’s super effective.
As someone who was very aware the system was fucked and moved to another country 15 years ago, one of the first things I realized once I was no longer drowning in US propaganda was that the system was even more fucked than I thought.
I lost my birth certificate once and it took 12 weeks to get a copy sent to me and cost a fee..
Aaand I have no clue where it is now, since the only time I needed it was a decade ago.
It’s not supposed to cost money or require jumping through these hoops to vote.
I had to show my birth certificate for the drivers license. Everywhere else my citizenship has been transitive since then, or otherwise used in combination with my social security number.
This is fucking bullshit.
In order to be on the voter rolls, you have to show you are a citizen. There’s no point in having to show it again at the polls. This will also cause long lined.
The place for an original birth certificate is not in one’s person, they are fragile, particularly if they’re decades old. There are fees involved to have one reissued. Further, married females may be using their spouses surname, if so, their original birth certificate names will not match their current photo IDs.
For Republicans confused as to why we would oppose initiatives like this:
> Republican backers say the measures are necessary to keep noncitizens from voting. But noncitizen voting is a crime that is easily caught and prosecuted, which is perhaps one reason why it’s exceedingly rare. Recent lengthy reviews of voter rolls conducted by Republican election administrators have turned up precious few instances of noncitizens even on the rolls, let alone voting. Meanwhile, registration file purges have improperly kicked thousands of legal voters off the rolls.
Noncitizens voting is a nonissue. The proposed remedies cause harm to solve an imaginary problem. It’s like Springfield’s “Bear Patrol” from The Simpsons. In this case this is being blown up to stop poor people from voting since they’re more likely to oppose the current administration.