Given the fact we have an entire economy to rebuild and we have to attract investments and corporations : no, not a good idea.
peepeepoopooxdd1 on
I expect downvotes because who doesn’t want a 3 day weekend.
Disagree. Shit already isn’t getting done now and our economy is suffering due to a lack of industry and innovation. The reality of a 4 day work week is that workers are happier about one less work day and commute, but also end up screwing around for the 2 hour extension of each shift. Research clearly shows that you become less productive the longer your shift / work session is. Implementing this would probably make Canada even less competitive on the global market when we already have significant issues with our economy.
ZooberFry on
This should not be a global rule. Companies can (and do) implement this, but it should be a decision by the employee if they want to do it. Not every persons life can handle 10 hours per day vs 8 hours per day. There is daycare, appointments, etc.
It should be available to anyone that wants it, but not enforced by any employer.
iamjoesredditposts on
This is basically inevitable given what they keep saying about ‘AI taking jobs’ but work either gets reduced in hours or reduced in days on the week. The sooner we start to adjust, the better.
sounoriginal13 on
This would only affect federal workers.The private sector would never do it. So in other words, we’d be paying even more money for the already shit govt we have.
toilet_for_shrek on
I’m all for a better work-life balance, but wouldn’t this make us less competitive on a global scale? Our productivity is already bottom of the barrel
Dapper-Negotiation59 on
Well considering I’ve already got that, everyone quit being lazy and get back to work
ultraboof on
maybe someone can help me adjust my position on the 4 day work week thing. I never felt good about it because I don’t like the idea of 10 hour work days. I can’t imagine businesses will just give everyone a day off for nothing. folks might want this trade off and I hope they get it, but I’m not warm to the concept because I have no interest in a 10 hour work day.
JasperPants1 on
Anyone heard of the Taylor experiments way back?
Simply changing the work environment, heat, light etc saw increases in productivity.
Have these studies accounted for that? Or are they just pushing an agenda?
gilbertbenjamington on
That’s exactly why it will never happen. For some reason, keeping the population pissed off and apathetic is better than just making everyone happy
Jazzlike_Finish123 on
They just forced us back into offices full time I highly doubt this is going to happen.
AWE2727 on
All depends what industry you are employed in. If you are office person working 9-5 then yes a 4 days work week sounds amazing!
But others not working in an office end up working 12hr shifts to get a 4 day work week and those 3 days off may not include sat/sun but are in the middle of the week. I see it happening already.
So might be a good deal for some but not for all!
DeSynthed on
If it benefits a firm to implement a 4-day work week, it shouldn’t need to be mandated, you would expect the firm to act in its best interest.
TripMaster478 on
I can barely make ends meet as it is, how would I make 80% of my salary cover all my expenses.
Starcat75 on
Yes please
Reasonable_Royal7083 on
lol people acting like they even work on fridays
DareUpset5622 on
I’d be way more willing to commute to the office 4 days a week if that was the whole work week…
Constant_Mood_7332 on
post number 1) without reading i will assume that they mean we should all pack 40 hours of work into 4 days so that you effectively have0 life 4 days a week for 1 extra day off that you will spend doing all your errands on.
i will come back to edit this for post 2 and either confirm my jadedness is real or confirm the world has beaten me down to a point that i cant be happy lol.
post number 2) i am just beaten down lol
Street_Mall9536 on
A 4 day probably works fine if you don’t actually produce anything or provide a service.
For the remaining 90% of jobs, not so much.
eyeredd on
Let’s start a list of which companies in Canada support a four day work schedule.
holymolt on
While that would be lovely, there is no way I can get all of my work done in only four days per week. I can barely get it done in five.
imaginary48 on
We actually should all be working less, which many people see as counterintuitive. Before the rise of neoliberalism, it was expected that each generation would work less and less while enjoying more wealth and benefits as the economy grew and technology advanced. Some economists back then even predicted that we’d end up with a “crisis of leisure” because of how good we’d have it. Tasks that took hours to days a few decades ago now take seconds to minutes with the help of computers — yet nowadays wages are stagnant, the cost of living is skyrocketing, and we’re working more than ever. Our current 40 hour workweek consisting of 5 days x 8 hours was originally pioneered by Henry Ford in the 1920s for factory workers and was actually a cut from the previous 48 hour workweek of 6 days while keeping 100% of the same pay. Interestingly (and where the counterintuitiveness comes in), this reduction in hours with equal pay back then actually yielded higher output, improved efficiency, gave workers more time to spend more money in the economy (thereby growing customer base), and reduced employee turnover.
Why in our modern, advanced economy does it make sense to be working the same model as factory workers in the 1920?
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External-Pace-1822 on
I’ve switched from 7.5 a day to 9h 4 days a week and honestly I find it worse. I had no choice but to do this for child care reasons but it makes everyday so long and it’s so hard to make up for missed time now.
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A happy and healthy population is harder to manipulate.
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Yes please.
Given the fact we have an entire economy to rebuild and we have to attract investments and corporations : no, not a good idea.
I expect downvotes because who doesn’t want a 3 day weekend.
Disagree. Shit already isn’t getting done now and our economy is suffering due to a lack of industry and innovation. The reality of a 4 day work week is that workers are happier about one less work day and commute, but also end up screwing around for the 2 hour extension of each shift. Research clearly shows that you become less productive the longer your shift / work session is. Implementing this would probably make Canada even less competitive on the global market when we already have significant issues with our economy.
This should not be a global rule. Companies can (and do) implement this, but it should be a decision by the employee if they want to do it. Not every persons life can handle 10 hours per day vs 8 hours per day. There is daycare, appointments, etc.
It should be available to anyone that wants it, but not enforced by any employer.
This is basically inevitable given what they keep saying about ‘AI taking jobs’ but work either gets reduced in hours or reduced in days on the week. The sooner we start to adjust, the better.
This would only affect federal workers.The private sector would never do it. So in other words, we’d be paying even more money for the already shit govt we have.
I’m all for a better work-life balance, but wouldn’t this make us less competitive on a global scale? Our productivity is already bottom of the barrel
Well considering I’ve already got that, everyone quit being lazy and get back to work
maybe someone can help me adjust my position on the 4 day work week thing. I never felt good about it because I don’t like the idea of 10 hour work days. I can’t imagine businesses will just give everyone a day off for nothing. folks might want this trade off and I hope they get it, but I’m not warm to the concept because I have no interest in a 10 hour work day.
Anyone heard of the Taylor experiments way back?
Simply changing the work environment, heat, light etc saw increases in productivity.
Have these studies accounted for that? Or are they just pushing an agenda?
That’s exactly why it will never happen. For some reason, keeping the population pissed off and apathetic is better than just making everyone happy
They just forced us back into offices full time I highly doubt this is going to happen.
All depends what industry you are employed in. If you are office person working 9-5 then yes a 4 days work week sounds amazing!
But others not working in an office end up working 12hr shifts to get a 4 day work week and those 3 days off may not include sat/sun but are in the middle of the week. I see it happening already.
So might be a good deal for some but not for all!
If it benefits a firm to implement a 4-day work week, it shouldn’t need to be mandated, you would expect the firm to act in its best interest.
I can barely make ends meet as it is, how would I make 80% of my salary cover all my expenses.
Yes please
lol people acting like they even work on fridays
I’d be way more willing to commute to the office 4 days a week if that was the whole work week…
post number 1) without reading i will assume that they mean we should all pack 40 hours of work into 4 days so that you effectively have0 life 4 days a week for 1 extra day off that you will spend doing all your errands on.
i will come back to edit this for post 2 and either confirm my jadedness is real or confirm the world has beaten me down to a point that i cant be happy lol.
post number 2) i am just beaten down lol
A 4 day probably works fine if you don’t actually produce anything or provide a service.
For the remaining 90% of jobs, not so much.
Let’s start a list of which companies in Canada support a four day work schedule.
While that would be lovely, there is no way I can get all of my work done in only four days per week. I can barely get it done in five.
We actually should all be working less, which many people see as counterintuitive. Before the rise of neoliberalism, it was expected that each generation would work less and less while enjoying more wealth and benefits as the economy grew and technology advanced. Some economists back then even predicted that we’d end up with a “crisis of leisure” because of how good we’d have it. Tasks that took hours to days a few decades ago now take seconds to minutes with the help of computers — yet nowadays wages are stagnant, the cost of living is skyrocketing, and we’re working more than ever. Our current 40 hour workweek consisting of 5 days x 8 hours was originally pioneered by Henry Ford in the 1920s for factory workers and was actually a cut from the previous 48 hour workweek of 6 days while keeping 100% of the same pay. Interestingly (and where the counterintuitiveness comes in), this reduction in hours with equal pay back then actually yielded higher output, improved efficiency, gave workers more time to spend more money in the economy (thereby growing customer base), and reduced employee turnover.
Why in our modern, advanced economy does it make sense to be working the same model as factory workers in the 1920?
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I’ve switched from 7.5 a day to 9h 4 days a week and honestly I find it worse. I had no choice but to do this for child care reasons but it makes everyday so long and it’s so hard to make up for missed time now.
A happy and healthy population is harder to manipulate.
A desperate population is easier to recruit.