it only supports defense contractors — which is really the only reason israel exists.
a small hyper aggressive nation of 8 million people who are ideologically opposed to their billions of neighbors can not have any benefit from warring with the larger neighbors.
but defense contractors love it.
so it continues.
IllustriousRange226 on
Well, obviously. They are smaller and closer to Iran while the US is defended by two huge impenetrable oceans.
Additional_Quiet2600 on
It doesn’t benefit us at all. It puts us at even more generational danger.
sedatedlife on
At this point we need to just abandon Israel completely cut all military and economic support. They are just as much a terrorist state as Iran.
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LADataJunkie on
Yeah no shit? And Trump.
backpackwayne on
Israel is always in perpetual war. Their enemies want them erased from the Earth and visa versa. They have been at it longer than any of you have been alive. And they will never, never stop. Why get mixed up in that?
FeelingPixely on
Kinda crazy that we’re always reporting on what people believe rather than a well argued case with the facts and likeliest outcomes.
Accomplished-Run221 on
How the fuck is anyone, anywhere, making a claim that this benefits America at all?
prroteus on
In other news, water is wet. More details at 11
Balgor1 on
No shit.
schu4KSU on
I’m not sure what exactly this poll is a proxy for but 29% of Americans are it.
16ozbuddz on
Yea, last time I checked Iran is pretty far away and they don’t have nukes. Israel can handle things themselves.
Id suspect if they’d stop fucking over Palestinians and Lebanese they’d have less problems
Knighth77 on
This country needs to wake up and realize the majority of American politicians work harder for Israel than for the American people. Maybe there’s some hope for thos nation after all.
Marciamallowfluff on
Absolutely, this is a disaster, great for Russia, China, and Israel, stinks for America. Trump acts like a Russian asset.
Imaginary_Audience_5 on
Ya think?
therealleotrotsky on
This feels like the dog that caught the car.
US attitudes towards Israel have taken a noticeable pivot since Gaza, and this may be what pushes it over the edge irreparably. Which would be very bad news for Israel.
mps1729 on
As someone who is generally supportive of Israel (but hates Netanyahu and his right wing cronies), I agree with this 100%. There’s reason that most Israelis (of all political stripes) support the war and most Americans oppose it.
realultimatepower on
it benefits Putin most of all, surprise surprise
Secure-Ad9780 on
Nah, it benefits the Saudis.
OilInternational2566 on
I know this is gonna be a super unpopular opinion but why not…
Iran’s has been destabilizing the Africa, the Middle East and Eastern Europe for years.
Iran’s proxy the Houthis are killing and destabilizing Yemen at this very moment. Look it up.
Iran sends ammo, rockets and drones to help keep Putins Ukraine war machine going.. destabilizing eastern Europe.
Iran sends arms, money and supplies to terrorist groups across the Middle East such as Hezbollah, Hamas, Asaib Ahl al Haq, Badr Organization, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Harakat Hezbollah al Nujaba, Kataib Hezbollah, Zaynabiyoun Brigades, the Fatemiyoun Division, Al Ashtar Brigades… anyone can Google that.
Additionally Iran’s leaders have been crushing protesters in Iran by killing tens of thousands of them. *Just like Assad did in Syria.* In fact, Iran sent their proxy army Hezbollah from Lebanon into Syria and helped Assad murder 500,000 Syrians during the Syrian civil war.
And years of negotiations about *”their nuclear program”* DIDN’T stop Iran for one FUCKING second from doing what I just listed above.
That’s my super unpopular opinion for the day.
ETA:
And I wish America wasn’t involved at all. You guys are too fucking busy fighting about mythical cat litter boxes for trans kids, white supremacist podcasters and protecting your pedo ring to be the world’s police at this point in history. I wish you weren’t even involved.
Callinon on
Considering it doesn’t benefit the US in the least degree, I’d say yeah that’s pretty accurate.
It’s debatable whether or not it’s a good idea for Israel, but if it benefits them in the slightest then it’s more than we’re getting out of this deal.
Hour-Passenger-8513 on
No one asking Iranians if it benefits them or not.
dslutherie on
how can so many of you Americans be so blind to Christian nationalists that have been shadow running your government for generations?
Israel is a product of Christian Zionism perpetuated by the US shared policy goals of Jewish Zionism
you are a derivative of purituan protestant sects that established a Christian theocracy mostly influenced by the evangelical cult who is behind the prosperity movement and actively crusading to bring about the end times prophasized in revelations
silsum on
No shit Sherlock, just like our tax money benefits Israel more than the citizens that pay for it.
InevitableAvalanche on
It benefits no one decent.
CasCrus4L on
We should not be allies with Israel anymore
rangerfan123 on
What do you mean “believe”? Like no fucking shit. Our own government is admitting this
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here’s the thing, it doesn’t even support israel.
it only supports defense contractors — which is really the only reason israel exists.
a small hyper aggressive nation of 8 million people who are ideologically opposed to their billions of neighbors can not have any benefit from warring with the larger neighbors.
but defense contractors love it.
so it continues.
Well, obviously. They are smaller and closer to Iran while the US is defended by two huge impenetrable oceans.
It doesn’t benefit us at all. It puts us at even more generational danger.
At this point we need to just abandon Israel completely cut all military and economic support. They are just as much a terrorist state as Iran.
[deleted]
Yeah no shit? And Trump.
Israel is always in perpetual war. Their enemies want them erased from the Earth and visa versa. They have been at it longer than any of you have been alive. And they will never, never stop. Why get mixed up in that?
Kinda crazy that we’re always reporting on what people believe rather than a well argued case with the facts and likeliest outcomes.
How the fuck is anyone, anywhere, making a claim that this benefits America at all?
In other news, water is wet. More details at 11
No shit.
I’m not sure what exactly this poll is a proxy for but 29% of Americans are it.
Yea, last time I checked Iran is pretty far away and they don’t have nukes. Israel can handle things themselves.
Id suspect if they’d stop fucking over Palestinians and Lebanese they’d have less problems
This country needs to wake up and realize the majority of American politicians work harder for Israel than for the American people. Maybe there’s some hope for thos nation after all.
Absolutely, this is a disaster, great for Russia, China, and Israel, stinks for America. Trump acts like a Russian asset.
Ya think?
This feels like the dog that caught the car.
US attitudes towards Israel have taken a noticeable pivot since Gaza, and this may be what pushes it over the edge irreparably. Which would be very bad news for Israel.
As someone who is generally supportive of Israel (but hates Netanyahu and his right wing cronies), I agree with this 100%. There’s reason that most Israelis (of all political stripes) support the war and most Americans oppose it.
it benefits Putin most of all, surprise surprise
Nah, it benefits the Saudis.
I know this is gonna be a super unpopular opinion but why not…
Iran’s has been destabilizing the Africa, the Middle East and Eastern Europe for years.
Iran’s proxy the Houthis are killing and destabilizing Yemen at this very moment. Look it up.
Iran sends ammo, rockets and drones to help keep Putins Ukraine war machine going.. destabilizing eastern Europe.
Iran sends arms, money and supplies to terrorist groups across the Middle East such as Hezbollah, Hamas, Asaib Ahl al Haq, Badr Organization, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Harakat Hezbollah al Nujaba, Kataib Hezbollah, Zaynabiyoun Brigades, the Fatemiyoun Division, Al Ashtar Brigades… anyone can Google that.
Additionally Iran’s leaders have been crushing protesters in Iran by killing tens of thousands of them. *Just like Assad did in Syria.* In fact, Iran sent their proxy army Hezbollah from Lebanon into Syria and helped Assad murder 500,000 Syrians during the Syrian civil war.
And years of negotiations about *”their nuclear program”* DIDN’T stop Iran for one FUCKING second from doing what I just listed above.
That’s my super unpopular opinion for the day.
ETA:
And I wish America wasn’t involved at all. You guys are too fucking busy fighting about mythical cat litter boxes for trans kids, white supremacist podcasters and protecting your pedo ring to be the world’s police at this point in history. I wish you weren’t even involved.
Considering it doesn’t benefit the US in the least degree, I’d say yeah that’s pretty accurate.
It’s debatable whether or not it’s a good idea for Israel, but if it benefits them in the slightest then it’s more than we’re getting out of this deal.
No one asking Iranians if it benefits them or not.
how can so many of you Americans be so blind to Christian nationalists that have been shadow running your government for generations?
Israel is a product of Christian Zionism perpetuated by the US shared policy goals of Jewish Zionism
you are a derivative of purituan protestant sects that established a Christian theocracy mostly influenced by the evangelical cult who is behind the prosperity movement and actively crusading to bring about the end times prophasized in revelations
No shit Sherlock, just like our tax money benefits Israel more than the citizens that pay for it.
It benefits no one decent.
We should not be allies with Israel anymore
What do you mean “believe”? Like no fucking shit. Our own government is admitting this