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  1. Secret-Chapter-712 on

    “Defensive” has always been a strange dodge and I think it’s been laid bare by the war in Iran. If bombing Iran is considered “defensive support” because Iran is bombing back after being attacked during nuclear negotiations, what does the restriction “only for defense” even mean? 

    Putting that obvious fiction aside, even purely actual defense support makes it possible for warring countries to extend their offensive, beyond what they could do without the help. Without the Iron Dome, for example, Israel would have to focus much more on its own defense, and would have to be more cautious/less aggressive in its strategy. 

  2. BigRichardsPlumbing on

    Why should we fund anything for israel they do nothing for us. But they attack us through bribing our politicians to steal our tax dollars. They should be declared enemy number 1.

  3. ProfessionalRemove33 on

    Not a single dime more to Israel. Get rid of our local Bibi wannabe, too. US is, by large margin, fucking sick of both of them and anything that operates remotely like they do. Demand truth, destroy fascism. TrumpEpstein files, please.

  4. mistersmith22 on

    Israel has an economy about as big as Ohio’s. Please let the US cut them off so they may reap what they have sown.

  5. ElysiumSprouts on

    My local congressional race had a candidate with this stance. He lost to the AIPAC backed Dem. Can’t change policies without winning elections first.

  6. Crafty_Ish1973 on

    We’re currently bombing Iran on Israel’s behalf. They don’t need more of our money.

  7. Israel isn’t a beneficial enough ally for us to fund their defensive armaments. If we can’t fund Ukraine anymore then we shouldn’t be funding Israel. Previously when they were the only country in that region willing to offer us information and allow us to spread influence it mattered,

    Other countries are willing to play ball so unless Israel actually provides us ANYTHING it won’t matter.

  8. The iron dome is what allows their constant bullying, so even “defensive” support is enabling the atrocities

  9. static-klingon on

    Let them defend themselves. They are making enemies everywhere and it’s not our job to fight for them.

  10. The whole notion of only giving them money for defensive spending is bullshit. They will just appropriate that money and spend it as they please anyway, whether offensive or defensive.

  11. Why thr fuck are we even sending them money . We have money to send them and they hav2 free dk Healthcare and we cant even take care of our people.

  12. Cutting healthcare for millions of Americans, cutting the NASA budget (again), and generally only using the money to bomb people, yeah Israel shouldn’t get anything from us.

  13. ilulillirillion on

    I just want healthcare and infrastructure at home.

    I think we need to spend money overseas, but I don’t think we need to give Israel another fucking cent for a long time.

    We are kicking more and more people off even the most basic care possible and for what? Grifting and foreign wars. At what point does America realize it’s actually okay to use tax money to help it’s own people.

  14. given that they’re purveyors of genocide and a driving force for our little war with Iran… Yeah, screw those guys. Because let’s face it, we could earmark the money for “defense” and they’d just turn it into dead Palestinians anyways.

  15. YNABDisciple on

    They have f’n universal healthcare and heavily subsidized secondary education.

  16. I remember Hasan Piker saying 2 years ago that we shouldn’t be giving them defensive spending because it frees up money for them to spend on offensive spending.

    Same guy who got kicked out of the DNC for wanting to talk about Israel. The Democratic party is…frustrating.

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