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  1. RimboTheRebbiter on

    Ken Martin said he’d release the autopsy and flip flopped. We’ve got plenty of reporting indicating why it happened. If he is unwilling to release the report it can only be taken as a sign that the DNC fully intends to repeat the actions in the report that cost them 2024 rather than take the steps needed to win.

  2. Is withholding the info because Kamala wants to run again?

    I mean, I can provide a summary for those who don’t need the obvious stated to them:

    1. Trump promised no new wars, ending current wars (edit: “If I was President, the war on Ukraine would end in one day”), a curbing on inflation, a lowering on grocery prices, and the reduction of taxes (whether or not he followed through is irrelevant. He campaigned and won on those statements.)
    2. Kamala ran on a similar border policy to the Republicans, a similar policy of the Gaza genocide to the Republicans, a similar policy of relations to Israel as just about everyone in office, and a message that the direction things are going will not change under her leadership as if Biden never left.

    If you’re looking at these two messages as a fence-sitter or in the purpley-grey area, the fact that Trump is a criminal suddenly doesn’t matter if he’s the only one even mentioning the issues you care about, let alone saying things about them that you agree with.

  3. Distinct_Sun on

    theres other reporting pointing to gaza as the clear issue they lost voters on. turns out people thought letting a fascist nazi state run wild and do genocide was bad.

    if their autopsy said otherwise, they could prove these people wrong and say it was that they didnt hug bush and cheyneys even harder. but we know exactly whats in there. so theyre hiding it. because the DNC plans to keep backing a genocidal apartheid regime and rejecting progressives.

  4. We 100% know why. The Democrats cannot serve corporate masters and win consistently. Americans are sick of that and it doesn’t inspire anyone to vote.

    Kamala Harris was a bad candidate that no one liked – who represented more of the same Biden garbage. If there was a real primary, there’s zero chance she was the candidate. Zero.

    Everyone knows the reality. A charismatic and truly progressive Democratic leader that doesn’t serve corporations would win this next election in a landslide if it’s not rigged.

    But trust me, the corporations that own clowns like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer – they will do everything they can to make sure you can’t have that candidate.

  5. writeinfreedom on

    This narrative is so weird.

    The DNC has proven to be so out of step with the voters they barely have any money on hand, and I swear they already did this autopsy and every podcaster and politician had an answer for however this happened.

    It’s 18 months old by now.

    What value is there even left hearing from the organization in part responsible for the loss who hasn’t or refused to release their explanation for it when we have lots of other better independent analysis and everybody has a good idea of what happened.

    Interpretations of this aren’t as valuable as creating an alternative immediately.

  6. Party autopsies are basically worthless, I’d like people to keep in mind the 2012 RNC autopsy insisted they needed to moderate on immigration to win.

    I do not need to explain to anyone what happened instead, right?

  7. CaptainAwesome06 on

    I’m not sure I trust these guys to be honest with themselves and truly self-reflective.

  8. Raspberries-Are-Evil on

    We know what happened.

    Low turnout (In swing states) + prices of shit.+ constant lies by Trump- all mixed in with the inherent Racism and Misogyny that people in those swing states have JUST enough to let Trump sliver out those wins by less than 1%.

  9. catharticargument on

    The only reason not to release it is pretty simple: it will reveal the democrats should do certain things that would help them win elections but make certain people less money.

  10. It’s because it points out what we’ve been saying for some time now…

    If you’re too old; fuck off

    If you want to use office for financial and personal gain; fuck off

    If you continue to hold back the progressive agenda; fuck off

    If you want your donor candidate to run and do whatever possible to crush their chances (Bernie); fuck off

    We’re tired, man. Tired of the same shit day in and day out. We’re tired of breaking our backs for pennies while corporations get massive tax breaks, CEOs get massive bonuses.

    We’re tired of our lives being robbed for the people who barely want to contribute to society and, in fact, feel like they’re entitled to less of what they already give us scraps of

    We want an equal opportunity to live like our grandparents did. We don’t want to continue to live paycheck to paycheck. There’s no reason for it. We’re tired. And now…now we’re getting hungry

  11. ElysiumSprouts on

    Do people not realize that releasing a report like that publicly also hands the Republicans a blueprint for their success?

  12. Money-Director6649 on

    trump had a massive propaganda machine behind him. kamala didn’t.

    propaganda works. that’s why it’s used so much, in politics and elsewhere.

  13. Teddycrat_Official on

    Quite honestly this is what democrats should be protesting right now.

    I see a lot of people in these threads saying “We already know what happened” and then following up with their opinions – which is fine but I don’t care as much about what various factions of voters think caused it as opposed to what the official stance of the DNC is. They are in control of the democratic platform, messaging, funding, and candidates, and after the colossal and frankly unforgivable mistake that was the 2024 election **we deserve to know what the plan is to fix it next time** and/or **whether or not we need a full on revolt of current democratic leadership.**

    The fact that they are refusing to share screams that they have not learned their lesson, and that we need to replace them.

  14. snoopingforpooping on

    I truly believe Biden was only going to serve one term and make the announcement after the midterms. I, like many others, expected the GOP to move on from Trump after losing the general in 2020. Once they saw Trump was going to be the nominee they changed course and figured stick with Biden in 2024.

    Biden should have never got on that debate stage. It was a disaster and why they moved it up several months. Biden and team should have adopted the narrative that the President would never share a stage with an individual who attempted a coup. Once they gave Trump equal footing it was over.

    It was a wild gambit by the Biden team and democrats but they had zero options after the debate and Harris had to step in. I don’t think it was hubris of Biden but rather underestimating the Trump Religion.

    In an alternative history, Biden refuses a debate. Holds onto the blue wall and resigns for health issues mid-2025.

  15. Tiny-Albatross518 on

    Can you imagine it!!!

    We stuck closely to the demands of the donors. The plebs caught on. Half of them had low turnout the other half cant read because we defunded education.

  16. Political autopsies are dumb. They are a snapshot in time that do not have the realities of the future.

    The 2012 GOP autopsy said the GOP should be friendlier to illegal immigrants and moderate on social issues.

    A candidate who did the opposite of that won 2 of the 3 next elections. So just treat these with a grain of salt.

  17. JesusWuta40oz on

    This was proof that the Democratic party needs its own “tea-party” movement event.

  18. The only conclusion I can rationally draw is that establishment/AIPAC/corporate Dems don’t mind losing.

  19. No autopsy needed. It’s on Joe Biden. If he let there be a primary season it would have been sorted out by voters.

    Is the primary process perfect? No, but we get who we get by the voters.

  20. They should do it because they said they should do it.

    I dont think its the magical keys to the kingdom that reading it will be granted the path to victory. And I think whats in there will be fairly mundane and unsurprising. It will make every politician currently in office be put in danger though.

    Creating one of these is loser behavior in the first place, but they promised it so they should.

  21. Vegetable-Error-2068 on

    Let me guess:

    – Right wing Democrats are unacceptable to voters
    – Establishment Democrats being subservient to corporate and oligarchic interests is unacceptable to voters
    – The systemic muzzling of progressives and suppression of the left wing is unacceptable to voters
    – Israel’s complete dominion over U.S. politicians is unacceptable to voters
    – The utter refusal to do anything other than guard the status quo is unacceptable to voters

    The report that says all that?

  22. CalligrapherDizzy201 on

    The truth is simple. They ran an unpopular candidate and expected to win. They were wrong.

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