Which billionaire owns The Hill again? Is it Murdoch?
aflyingsquanch on
The other 53% know it was.
supes1 on
I don’t think it was staged…. but I understand the skepticism. Him having a presser immediately afterwords using this as a pretext for building the ballroom just felt a bit *convenient*.
AmrokMC on
I just want to know, what’s with the AI videos of the event and who released those? That’s the reason there’s so much doubt.
AI will absolutely ruin societies, and our idiot government decided to not restrain it at all with regulations or anything. You think misinformation and disinformation wasbad before? Wait until AI videos become truly undetectable by almost everyone, and those who can detect them will be the ones releasing them. I hate sounding like a doom and gloom type of person, but there’s a reason the morally depraved, the ethically challenged, and the uneducated are all excited for this crap.
Jerk182 on
The poor innocent/ gullible people that are dead because of this maniac.
fitnessexpress on
Staged… as in conveniently allowed to happen is believable.
SlowRunner2026 on
I’m okay with this even if it wasn’t staged. I mean nobody seems to care about the obvious fact that he was an abuser with Epstein of young girls. So if people won’t believe the real conspiracy, let them believe this one.
Crommach on
I can understand not believing it was staged. What I can’t understand is the knee-jerk reaction from so many that being suspicious of the narrative coming from the Trump administration is tantamount to being a gibbering QAnon cultist. They flat out lied about the Pretti and Good murders *even after* video evidence disproved the bullshit narratives they started pushing immediately after the events. This administration – hell, the MAGA movement as a whole – not only doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt but actively merits suspicion. They lie so much and so broadly that *anything* coming from them should be seen as questionable.
I’m all for rationality and civic discourse, believe me. But the folks pearl-clutching about the “erosion of discourse” or equating doubt of Trump with believing that aliens control the government is frankly disingenuous. Clinging to the illusion that we aren’t facing an administration that’s so nakedly authoritarian is leading people to lend credence to a government that continues to actively, demonstrably lie to them.
Athleticsbaby on
Skeptism of known liars/fraudsters/cheats = Killary scared a kid to death to extract an anti-aging chemical.
These things are the same apparently.
GeeKay44 on
Which one?
Main-Bandicoot6477 on
Was it even an attempt really? Isn’t the latest news that they guy never even fired a shot and he was nowhere near the room the President was in? The secret service shot each other or something?
I don’t think this was “staged” but I also don’t mind that there is an effective narrative formed that combats the cynical and corrupt bullshit Trump puts out about why he needs taxpayers to build a half billion dollar tacky golden ballroom. Trump blames all Dems and anyone that criticizes him for this “attempt” so fuck him if his story is derailed by a fictional story too.
Internal_Finger515 on
Why could 53% think this was legit lol
uhhhnic on
Where the hell do we vote for these things lmao.
chesterforbes on
That’s surprisingly low
PennysWorthOfTea on
Who’d a thought that basing your entire political identity on grift, misinformation, & obfuscation would cause the public to question events?
JiveChicken00 on
I don’t think shock is the right word.
AustinSpartan on
who is shocked?
legomaximumfigure on
In all fairness, the pleading for the ballroom didn’t make him look like he was concerned at all.
Crafty_Ish1973 on
The Trump administration is inherently dishonest and corrupt. There’s no reason to believe that “assassination attempt” was real.
Far_Holiday3762 on
That percentage seems low.
Scary-Reflection-489 on
47% seems low honestly, when you consider how many Dems think every headline is a psyop to make them look crazy.
LiveChocolate8819 on
That’s what happens when you react to (alleged) political violence the same way you react to Cracker Barrel changing their logo.
himheritaintme on
Only 47?
jp0202 on
The only shocking thing here is that it’s only 47%.
Trajinous on
Boy Who Cried Wolf, asshole lies so much and lost all credibility
spinediver on
What’s the shock? That it’s that low?
thistimeforsurebud on
Too low
FoxyInTheSnow on
Aesop covered this phenomenon in his fable *”The boy who kept saying ‘they’re trying to shoot me’ until all the people in his village got sick of his shit and cried ‘oh, well then, just get fucking shot already!'”*
Admittedly not one of old Aesop’s more popular fables. Scholars and children alike have struggled to extract a moral from it.
tidal_flux on
This is a predictable consequence of lying all the time and having zero credibility.
Pigglebee on
Yup, if you lie 90% of the time, people just stop believing you
NeedleworkerOld1834 on
The real shock it’s only 47 percent
OhioPolitiTHIC on
I very much wish I had copied a comment from another thread so I could give appropriate credit and not butcher the very well articulated idea that, ‘we do not owe the benefit of the doubt to this wwe/reality tv/newstainment administration that has done nothing but LIE at every possible turn of events’.
This administration has literally told everyone that they should distrust their own eyes and experiences when it comes into conflict with what they say. FFS, in his first term, the idiot tried to say he had bigger inauguration numbers than Obama, and the put out photos that clearly showed otherwise. Clearly they started as they meant to continue. Back when WaPo was still counting (and could be counted on) they clocked Mr. Trump spouting lies on average 20 times a day.
Disbelieving this administration isn’t delusional, it’s practical. Accepting anything this administration says at face value without verifying the truth of it, is to put yourself, those you love, and this country, into harms way.
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Which billionaire owns The Hill again? Is it Murdoch?
The other 53% know it was.
I don’t think it was staged…. but I understand the skepticism. Him having a presser immediately afterwords using this as a pretext for building the ballroom just felt a bit *convenient*.
I just want to know, what’s with the AI videos of the event and who released those? That’s the reason there’s so much doubt.
AI will absolutely ruin societies, and our idiot government decided to not restrain it at all with regulations or anything. You think misinformation and disinformation wasbad before? Wait until AI videos become truly undetectable by almost everyone, and those who can detect them will be the ones releasing them. I hate sounding like a doom and gloom type of person, but there’s a reason the morally depraved, the ethically challenged, and the uneducated are all excited for this crap.
The poor innocent/ gullible people that are dead because of this maniac.
Staged… as in conveniently allowed to happen is believable.
I’m okay with this even if it wasn’t staged. I mean nobody seems to care about the obvious fact that he was an abuser with Epstein of young girls. So if people won’t believe the real conspiracy, let them believe this one.
I can understand not believing it was staged. What I can’t understand is the knee-jerk reaction from so many that being suspicious of the narrative coming from the Trump administration is tantamount to being a gibbering QAnon cultist. They flat out lied about the Pretti and Good murders *even after* video evidence disproved the bullshit narratives they started pushing immediately after the events. This administration – hell, the MAGA movement as a whole – not only doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt but actively merits suspicion. They lie so much and so broadly that *anything* coming from them should be seen as questionable.
I’m all for rationality and civic discourse, believe me. But the folks pearl-clutching about the “erosion of discourse” or equating doubt of Trump with believing that aliens control the government is frankly disingenuous. Clinging to the illusion that we aren’t facing an administration that’s so nakedly authoritarian is leading people to lend credence to a government that continues to actively, demonstrably lie to them.
Skeptism of known liars/fraudsters/cheats = Killary scared a kid to death to extract an anti-aging chemical.
These things are the same apparently.
Which one?
Was it even an attempt really? Isn’t the latest news that they guy never even fired a shot and he was nowhere near the room the President was in? The secret service shot each other or something?
I don’t think this was “staged” but I also don’t mind that there is an effective narrative formed that combats the cynical and corrupt bullshit Trump puts out about why he needs taxpayers to build a half billion dollar tacky golden ballroom. Trump blames all Dems and anyone that criticizes him for this “attempt” so fuck him if his story is derailed by a fictional story too.
Why could 53% think this was legit lol
Where the hell do we vote for these things lmao.
That’s surprisingly low
Who’d a thought that basing your entire political identity on grift, misinformation, & obfuscation would cause the public to question events?
I don’t think shock is the right word.
who is shocked?
In all fairness, the pleading for the ballroom didn’t make him look like he was concerned at all.
The Trump administration is inherently dishonest and corrupt. There’s no reason to believe that “assassination attempt” was real.
That percentage seems low.
47% seems low honestly, when you consider how many Dems think every headline is a psyop to make them look crazy.
That’s what happens when you react to (alleged) political violence the same way you react to Cracker Barrel changing their logo.
Only 47?
The only shocking thing here is that it’s only 47%.
Boy Who Cried Wolf, asshole lies so much and lost all credibility
What’s the shock? That it’s that low?
Too low
Aesop covered this phenomenon in his fable *”The boy who kept saying ‘they’re trying to shoot me’ until all the people in his village got sick of his shit and cried ‘oh, well then, just get fucking shot already!'”*
Admittedly not one of old Aesop’s more popular fables. Scholars and children alike have struggled to extract a moral from it.
This is a predictable consequence of lying all the time and having zero credibility.
Yup, if you lie 90% of the time, people just stop believing you
The real shock it’s only 47 percent
I very much wish I had copied a comment from another thread so I could give appropriate credit and not butcher the very well articulated idea that, ‘we do not owe the benefit of the doubt to this wwe/reality tv/newstainment administration that has done nothing but LIE at every possible turn of events’.
This administration has literally told everyone that they should distrust their own eyes and experiences when it comes into conflict with what they say. FFS, in his first term, the idiot tried to say he had bigger inauguration numbers than Obama, and the put out photos that clearly showed otherwise. Clearly they started as they meant to continue. Back when WaPo was still counting (and could be counted on) they clocked Mr. Trump spouting lies on average 20 times a day.
Disbelieving this administration isn’t delusional, it’s practical. Accepting anything this administration says at face value without verifying the truth of it, is to put yourself, those you love, and this country, into harms way.