Angela Rayner warns Sir Keir Starmer that Gen Z are ‘feeling hopeless’ as she mulls bid to oust Prime Minister after local elections
Source: tylerthe-theatre
Angela Rayner warns Sir Keir Starmer that Gen Z are ‘feeling hopeless’ as she mulls bid to oust Prime Minister after local elections
Source: tylerthe-theatre
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Has there ever been a more clear snake in a party? Stamer should show some bloody backbone and get rid of her permanently.
Being so out in the open with this infighting is destroying labour and their ability to achieve anything.
Especially as I don’t see how Angela Rayner has the fucking gall to do this after being proven a tax cheat just a year ago.
It’s not just Gen Z, we are having to move house after endless years of below cost of living pay rises and constant increases to cost of living.
It just feels really grim
Most of us are feeling hopeless, it’s like labour are deliberately being incompetent to let reform get in.
If they just let Burnham stand in Gorton and Denton they’d have a decent replacement lined up. Instead it’s going to be Rayner and Streeting, neither of which will make a dent in the polls; Rayner will have the tax thing thrown at her and Streeting, being a glorified Tory, will tank living conditions for the working class.
Why do the media keep telling us senior labour officials are trying to oust the PM and every time it comes to nothing and there isn’t actually any mention from people like Wed Streeting of Rayner on trying to do what the media claim. It’s just shit-stirring by media at this stage and the hope that if it does happen they can say they got the story first.
Then in this thread there are already people calling Rayner a snake when this is just media fluff. I don’t think Rayner is PM material but she does care. I don’t know why you would feel the need to call her a snake.
I think Angela Rayner should concentrate on paying her taxes correctly and not being prime minister to be frank.
I’m glad she’s noticed. There are important conversations to be had about the young and inequality the current administration are not facing.
A year ago I’d have welcomed the possibility of her becoming leader before the next election with a decent handover period before then. Now though… right wing politicians would breeze past a scandal like hers, but she isn’t a right wing politician.
Yep I know what will save Labour…. Someone even less liked!
She should find out what the public think of her rather than just those she talks to in the party who clearly want to ride on her coattails. She may get a wake up call.
Gen Z feel hopeless because the prosperous society and lifestyle they saw the tail end of is economically unfeasible and unsustainable and won’t ever be recreated again without some serious upheaval to society
Starmer mightn’t be great but no one else can fix the issues either, replacing him with someone else is just another opportunity for a new twat to enrich himself of push his crazy agenda. Politics isn’t where that change will happen, it will likely need to be revolution or societal collapse.
Guys I literally dunno who to vote for. I was gonna vote green cause I agree with loads of their stuff but then they come out with some really ridiculous dreamy shit which I’m apparently too racist for. I’m not racist enough for Reform, especially after the absolute shitshow of Brexit. Restore is some rich cunt cosplaying as a farmer. Conservative is, well conservative, and Labour is also basically conservative.
Why isn’t there a normal party? There isn’t a single normal party (to my knowledge) that doesn’t have some absolutely stupid policy that I can’t bring myself to vote for.
What the helly do I do?
28 M waiting for the revolution to kick off.
Everybody feels hopeless but sorry Angela you are not and never will be the answer.
Whilst Starmer a good man, he is simply not up to the job as a Leader I would take him in a heart beat over Rayner.
I’ve been around long enough to know, if Rayner got the hotseat
The media would instantly stop the soft shit stirring they are currently doing
And they would turn and throw her straight off the pedestal
They would have a field day with her, which is why there are currently no hit pieces or bad press for her, as its what they want to happen
Labour putting her in will screw them, she hasn’t got the sharpness to be in the big chair
Never mind how tarnished she is to sensible people after her attempted tax dodge
There was an article from historian Ruth Ben Ghiat on the situation globally. And this was the last interview question. From [On Nazi Salutes and Trumpism as Fascism](https://lucid.substack.com/p/on-nazi-salutes-and-trumpism-as-fascism):
>**But isn’t it an anachronism to use concepts from the 1920s-1930s to analyze today’s movements?**
>Good question! Yes, in some ways, because in fact authoritarianism has changed over a century. Aside from the Communist dictatorships, we have fewer one-party states. Today, there are “electoral autocracies”: elections are still held, but the leader and his allies domesticate the media, the election apparatus, and the judiciary to “game the system” so election results tend to favor the leader. And nowadays, as we see from Trump, Jair Bolsonaro, and Nicolás Maduro, election results that don’t go your way are sometimes denied and disregarded.
>I want to note the different destinies of these three election deniers, because it highlights the difficult situation America is in. In Brazil, which had a coup and a military dictatorship that only ended in 1985, Bolsonaro and his foot soldiers were quickly prosecuted. The former president was convicted of spreading election fraud, and is now standing trial for trying to overthrow the government.
>In Venezuela, Hugo Chávez handed over a largely destroyed democracy to Maduro, his hand-picked successor, and Maduro has used corruption to bind the military and other major stakeholders to him. Even a landslide victory for the democratic opposition was not able to dislodge him.
>And then there is Trump, leader of a country that had a form of regional authoritarianism (the Jim Crow South) but no history of national dictatorship, which means many Americans were less prepared to recognize the warning signs.
>Over a decade, Trump methodically and relentlessly weakened our democracy and built a formidable personality cult and alliances with religious, business and political elites. All of them backed his repudiation of his electoral loss, his violent coup attempt, and his “comeback” as a convicted felon. And so, he has returned to finish the job of wrecking our democracy.
Nigel Farage is doing the same thing Trump did; weakening UK democratic norms, building a formidable personality cult and forming alliances with British political, religious and business elites.
Rayner clearly agrees that SDLT is a stupid tax, which adds to the sense of hopelessness.
I have very little respect for her but I would kind of love to see her shamelessly run on the argument that ‘taxes suck so much that even I, the deputy prime minister, didn’t pay full tax when I moved house’.
Not just ‘Gen Z’, as Labour are about to find out in the upcoming elections…
As a 52 year old I can confirm it’s not just Gen-Z.
We don’t want a person who doesn’t even have GCSEs running the country. Just saying.
Fuck off Angela. We don’t need more hassle. What happened to just letting a PM have their 4 years.
No shit, the UK has been in managed decline since 2008 and all efforts are directed at keeping boomers comfortable while fucking over everyone else.
I love how the majority of the commentators in this thread being led around by the nose by the tory press and calling it their opinion, what a load of sheep
I’ve always liked rayner even after the tax stuff. Starmer is a dead duck it’s more a matter of when rather if he goes
She’s correct but how is it Starmer’s fault? This is is a billionaire led problem if anyone is blame here
I hope she does. It turns out that [starving the youth is this Tory stooge’s speciality.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c978m6z3egno)
Am I going mad or does the article not specify which podcast she was on
It’s not hard to understand why. Consistent wage stagnation, on top of the media being almost exclusively negative, really doesn’t paint a good future for anyone – especially gen z which runs up to 2012, meaning a lot of people growing up and finally having a stab at “being an adult” and being shown nothing but shit.
We need more positivity as a start. Positive media. Show the good things going on, positive investment. Give people hope FFS.
Each fresh new generation feels hopeless, what’s new. I’m a millennial and have never known precedented times.
Shame everyone hates her if shes one of the few giving a shit about younger generations future
Dame, what is this article…
Assumptions on top of speculations.
Not just applicable to Gen-Z, but generations before them as well, ask any person in age range of 18-60 and more or less the story will be same, affected by pandemic and cost of living crisis.
“Best we can do is make you give your ID to chat to someone on Xbox Live” – Starmer, probably
Although Rayner supports this too.
I’m no fan of Starmer, but what on earth makes her think the British public would want a hypocrite like her to take over as PM? She herself was already forced to resign for underpaying her tax. And the illusion that she was any different from the rest of Westminster swiftly disappeared with all the freebies from Labour donors that she accepted with open arms the minute she got into power.
Quick, were losing Genocide Z and Gen Alpha we have to ban them from social media to protect them from bad people.
It’s not just Gen Z, I’m a millennial and I’m highly skilled and cannot get a job. I feel hopeless.
Yes, exactly what the country wants is a prominent member of the Labour cabinet that resigned because of a tax issue, ironically in the department that you were overseeing. If there’s actually a worse person than Starmer to run Labour, it’s her. Come back and push for leadership in 2029
Let’s just let Starmer run the country already, he’s not doing brilliantly, but also not terribly. All this backstabbing and infighting is distracting from the bits of good he’s actually doing