We never should have reinstated full statehood for the Confederacy after the Civil War. They should have been held as a territory until they got their shit together and earned their way to readmission. Think about where we’d be if the South hadn’t continued to hold us back all this time.
Put3socks-in-it on
The gerrymander wars
IllustriousRange226 on
If that happens then every Democrat would just leave the South. Why stay when you can’t vote your guy in?
HonoredPeople on
Then let’s stop them from doing that.
Everybody fing vote. I don’t care about anybody’s weak ass reasoning. Vote. Period. Vote like your ass is on the line. Because it is.
OMGMianiteS3Official on
It’s insane that a 52 blue seat California and a 17 blue Illinois are theoretically possible. If that’s the game, play it.
MinimumTelevision628 on
Peak gerrymandering is just both parties agreeing to make every district 55-45 safe so no one ever has to worry about voters again, just primaries.
LADataJunkie on
It’s almost like the 2016 election mattered. Oh well. I did my part.
Clear_Atmosphere2614 on
Yeah this is basically just describing the Republican map in North Carolina right now, they already cracked Charlotte six ways and turned a 50/50 state into a permanent 10-4 seat advantage. Only thing stopping full dystopia mode is the state supreme court and the Voting Rights Act, but you know they’re chomping at the bit to kill Section 2.
spark3h on
I hope Republicans go for broke. They can paint a map red based on previous election results, but if they’re smearing their margins thin enough to cover the whole state, a real blue tide could take entire red states. What exactly do they consider “safe” margins?
Forward-Pack-900 on
How about we get rid of the electoral college and gerrymandering and do what every other democratic country does? Most votes win. It’s that simple. Republicans won’t agree, cause they will most likely never win the popular vote in state and federal elections!
Zanna-K on
You know… In a way this night actually work to the benefit of Democrats.
Just think about it – the more you try to gerrymander the closer you get to dummymandering on accident. Like Donald Trump’s popular vote margins in 2024 in less red states like Ohio and Florida were something like 11-13%. There is no way that those margins exist in today’s climate.
If you try to gerrymander every single district so that it leans red, you end up in a situation where just a slightly higher turnout among Democrats, slightly lower turnout among Republicans and/or a slightly shift towards democratic candidates among independents can wreck your previously “safe” districts.
Heck that was one of the original methods of gerrymandering in the first place – you concentrated all of your democratic or republican voters into as few districts as possible so they’d have 1 or 2 reps while your Republican districts would have 55/45 or even 60/40 splits on your favor. If you go back and try to make everything like… 52/48 you risk getting blown the fuck out. Trump is a uniquely unpopular president and national politics have completely dominated local races.
Like… Are we actually going to dummymander ourselves into more fair electoral maps in purple, baby blue and pink states?
baebae4455 on
White Supremacy is forever part of the American ethos.
Hydrok on
I wonder what that looks like if you split anything less than R+12 50/50 with Dems
Fun-Dinner-2562 on
How gerrymandering could lead to a civil war is a better title
SecureLiterature on
What a sad excuse for a country.
Howdthecatdothat on
If we implemented the Wyoming Rule (the smallest state sets the maximum population that can be served by a single representative) we would help seriously fix this issue.
Can we just let the south break off and do their own thing, obviously they live in a different reality than the rest of us.
siromega37 on
The counter to this is expanding the number of seats in the House. If we followed the 70,000:1 rule we’d have a couple thousand reps which honestly makes more sense given the US population. It would also put a big damper on oligarch and corp influence because they can’t spend in every race.
naitsirt89 on
For the love of god just go out and vote.
Gold_Drummer_4077 on
Aren’t there some Republicans that are already losing out in these gerrymandered areas? I can’t wait to see it all blow up in their faces.
broke_boi1 on
Thanks I hate it
Jorji-the-Trainer on
What’s the point of voting? Why even entertain the thought if you can just push your hand on the scale and say you win?
Whole-Revolution916 on
Until republicans agree to a national gerrymandering ban, democrats in blue/purple states need to get comfortable with gerrymandering their own states. The alternative of letting the regressives continue to destroy our democracy is worse.
sparrrrrt on
Gerrymandering. Forgive my non American naievity here, but does your political system acknowledge the absolute inequity inherent in this system?
Like, it’s not even actual democracy.
Are your politicians more concerned with ‘winning’ than representing?
That’s pretty fucked.
Less_Warthog_3850 on
For all those people who claim democracy is “mob rule” THIS is what mob rule really looks like. Straight democracy aka ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE eliminates all these gerrymandering and electoral college shenanigans.
Starthreads on
A reminder that there are enough people that don’t vote to turn every red state blue.
28 Comments
We never should have reinstated full statehood for the Confederacy after the Civil War. They should have been held as a territory until they got their shit together and earned their way to readmission. Think about where we’d be if the South hadn’t continued to hold us back all this time.
The gerrymander wars
If that happens then every Democrat would just leave the South. Why stay when you can’t vote your guy in?
Then let’s stop them from doing that.
Everybody fing vote. I don’t care about anybody’s weak ass reasoning. Vote. Period. Vote like your ass is on the line. Because it is.
It’s insane that a 52 blue seat California and a 17 blue Illinois are theoretically possible. If that’s the game, play it.
Peak gerrymandering is just both parties agreeing to make every district 55-45 safe so no one ever has to worry about voters again, just primaries.
It’s almost like the 2016 election mattered. Oh well. I did my part.
Yeah this is basically just describing the Republican map in North Carolina right now, they already cracked Charlotte six ways and turned a 50/50 state into a permanent 10-4 seat advantage. Only thing stopping full dystopia mode is the state supreme court and the Voting Rights Act, but you know they’re chomping at the bit to kill Section 2.
I hope Republicans go for broke. They can paint a map red based on previous election results, but if they’re smearing their margins thin enough to cover the whole state, a real blue tide could take entire red states. What exactly do they consider “safe” margins?
How about we get rid of the electoral college and gerrymandering and do what every other democratic country does? Most votes win. It’s that simple. Republicans won’t agree, cause they will most likely never win the popular vote in state and federal elections!
You know… In a way this night actually work to the benefit of Democrats.
Just think about it – the more you try to gerrymander the closer you get to dummymandering on accident. Like Donald Trump’s popular vote margins in 2024 in less red states like Ohio and Florida were something like 11-13%. There is no way that those margins exist in today’s climate.
If you try to gerrymander every single district so that it leans red, you end up in a situation where just a slightly higher turnout among Democrats, slightly lower turnout among Republicans and/or a slightly shift towards democratic candidates among independents can wreck your previously “safe” districts.
Heck that was one of the original methods of gerrymandering in the first place – you concentrated all of your democratic or republican voters into as few districts as possible so they’d have 1 or 2 reps while your Republican districts would have 55/45 or even 60/40 splits on your favor. If you go back and try to make everything like… 52/48 you risk getting blown the fuck out. Trump is a uniquely unpopular president and national politics have completely dominated local races.
Like… Are we actually going to dummymander ourselves into more fair electoral maps in purple, baby blue and pink states?
White Supremacy is forever part of the American ethos.
I wonder what that looks like if you split anything less than R+12 50/50 with Dems
How gerrymandering could lead to a civil war is a better title
What a sad excuse for a country.
If we implemented the Wyoming Rule (the smallest state sets the maximum population that can be served by a single representative) we would help seriously fix this issue.
posting articles with paywalls should be illegal.
https://removepaywalls.com/https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/30/upshot/gerrymanders-redistricting-democrats-republicans.html
Can we just let the south break off and do their own thing, obviously they live in a different reality than the rest of us.
The counter to this is expanding the number of seats in the House. If we followed the 70,000:1 rule we’d have a couple thousand reps which honestly makes more sense given the US population. It would also put a big damper on oligarch and corp influence because they can’t spend in every race.
For the love of god just go out and vote.
Aren’t there some Republicans that are already losing out in these gerrymandered areas? I can’t wait to see it all blow up in their faces.
Thanks I hate it
What’s the point of voting? Why even entertain the thought if you can just push your hand on the scale and say you win?
Until republicans agree to a national gerrymandering ban, democrats in blue/purple states need to get comfortable with gerrymandering their own states. The alternative of letting the regressives continue to destroy our democracy is worse.
Gerrymandering. Forgive my non American naievity here, but does your political system acknowledge the absolute inequity inherent in this system?
Like, it’s not even actual democracy.
Are your politicians more concerned with ‘winning’ than representing?
That’s pretty fucked.
For all those people who claim democracy is “mob rule” THIS is what mob rule really looks like. Straight democracy aka ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE eliminates all these gerrymandering and electoral college shenanigans.
A reminder that there are enough people that don’t vote to turn every red state blue.