interesting given a lot of their support will be red wall Labour voters originally
RaymondBumcheese on
With just a touch more pandering I’m sure they can double or even triple that by the next election.
Own-Development2437 on
???? generally if you support one party you dont support the other, if your willing to vote reform despite having more red flags than china your almost definitely not voting for established parties
totallyclips on
But they’re quite happy to support a grifter who will bait n switch then like a cheap ride at the funfair
BLightyear67 on
This is stating the bleeding obvious. I’d like to know more about the 1% who might consider Labour.
BalianofReddit on
Makes sense given alot of them will have been convinced theyre worse than satan
GPhex on
Starmer: “I know I should look to the left for support but… challenge accepted”
Horatio2200 on
I’ m a reform voter and I’d support labour if they had a new leader, and they agreed to
Build more houses including council houses.
Stop freezing income tax thresholds.
Stop raising minimum wage every april.
Reverse capital tax limit back to 12k.
Fund the NHS properly at least back to Tory levels.
Scrap indefinite leave to remain
coffeewalnut08 on
It’s not about convincing hardliners, it’s also about convincing moderates/undecideds who may not be very ideological.
If Reform frames itself as the “pragmatic, practical” choice (Reform politicians do this a lot) that’s how they can win – just by winning over undecided people.
But make no mistake, Labour and Reform offer very different policies. It’s just inaccurate to say Labour is copying Reform, as some people online seem to suggest.
Lunarfrog2 on
Most obvious stat, anyone voting for Reform atm is either voting reform or Tories at the election
Agreeable_Falcon1044 on
Which makes the constant attempt to win the nazi vote insane. They will never vote for labour so go with making real change rather than emulating some 1970s nonsense.
Two child limit gone…fantastic. Vat on private schools…fantastic. And then…not a lot else.
ProjectZeus4000 on
Only 1% **SAY** they would consider voting labour, **today** in 2026. There’s absolte some right wing tory/reform/restore voters labour will never attract, but there are plenty of ex labour voturs who will now be voting reform. Labour won the last election, and reform are now polling highest. Of course there is crossover
You can’t use this as a reason to not listen to the reasons many of labour and workign class voters have switched to reform.
At the next general election – we will already have witness the US 2028 election, the world will be a different place.
If Labour can continue listening to the overwheming public opinion that is anti-migration, and show some real results and reductions in small boat crossings/migrant hotels – there are plenty of voters who will look at the USA, Farage, the ex tory cabinet members standing for election for reofrm – and vote reluctantly for a labour party that has done *something*on immigration over a party that is promising fantasies about no migration but it comes with a whole load of other policies they don’t like.
mixxituk on
When did my northern brethren forget who they were and sell themselves out to a vote to boris and brexit? Maybe the shame has led them to go even further
Important_Ruin on
Because they are Tories.
Didnt majority of Tory voters abandon Tories and support Reform instead?
Tory vote collapsed, Labour near enough maintained its voter share (minus shedding to Lib Dems and Greens) but majority of Reform voters Torys who were done with them, they were never Labour voters anyways.
Guyrbailey on
McSweeney and Glassman are idiots, as are anybody daft enough to listen to them.
supersonic-bionic on
Lol which proves how wrong Starmer was to try to appeal them
aitamodsarelosers on
Same morons that got willingly swindled by Brexit lining up to get swindled again by the same guy
Andromidius on
Quite why parties keep trying to appeal further to the right is beyond me. They’ll never vote for them, and in doing the pandering you lose centralist and leftists as voters.
It just makes it so blatant how rigged the system is.
cheeseley6 on
Then they’re a lost cause and it’s up to normal people to get out and vote to keep these corrupt grifters from r*ping the country and turning everything into untraceable crypto.
ACompletelyLostCause on
And yet, labour are trying to pursue certain culture war policies, such as anti-Trans or anti-ADHD care rhetoric, because they think it will appeal to ex-labour voters who switched to Reform. None of those people are ever coming back. Yet they’re happy to lose current socially liberal voters to try to get the reform voters back.
I speak regularly to a fair few union reps, all of them are in dispair and think labour will lose the next general election. It’s not that Labour doesn’t do anything good, but it’s messaging is awful. They don’t promote the genuinely good stuff, but just promote the stuff that pisses off more socially liberal people
PartyPoison98 on
Is this 1% of people intending to vote Reform now, or 1% of people intending to vote Reform tomorrow?
Because there is little to convert the former group, but the latter is very different.
Astriania on
This is actually really surprising, so much so that I’m questioning their methodology. There are lots of seats where vote share has swapped between Reform/Brexit/UKIP and Labour, suggesting that many voters do in fact see their way to supporting either one at different times. Your stereotypical Reform voter is white working class, which is absolutely Labour demographic as well.
I can’t get any of the paywall dodging links to load so I can’t read the actual article though.
falkens_maze_70 on
The propaganda they expose themselves to is sophisticated and frightening. I’ve lost friends to it. People I know have lost family to it. Anyone who has experience challenging the lies, bad faith and outright violent rhetoric they all parrot will know the saddest truth, and I say this from first hand experience, they don’t come back. The people you really liked before all this? They’re gone.
BasisOk4268 on
Because they just WONT AR CUNTRY BACK! Nevermind that this Labour government have enacted the harshest immigration rules of all time, they apparently need to go further and sink boats in the middle of the ocean.
EasyTumbleweed1114 on
Well I am sure they will of they just move a little bit more to the right! Keep attacking vulnerable groups keir, sure reform voters will back you sooner or later!
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interesting given a lot of their support will be red wall Labour voters originally
With just a touch more pandering I’m sure they can double or even triple that by the next election.
???? generally if you support one party you dont support the other, if your willing to vote reform despite having more red flags than china your almost definitely not voting for established parties
But they’re quite happy to support a grifter who will bait n switch then like a cheap ride at the funfair
This is stating the bleeding obvious. I’d like to know more about the 1% who might consider Labour.
Makes sense given alot of them will have been convinced theyre worse than satan
Starmer: “I know I should look to the left for support but… challenge accepted”
I’ m a reform voter and I’d support labour if they had a new leader, and they agreed to
Build more houses including council houses.
Stop freezing income tax thresholds.
Stop raising minimum wage every april.
Reverse capital tax limit back to 12k.
Fund the NHS properly at least back to Tory levels.
Scrap indefinite leave to remain
It’s not about convincing hardliners, it’s also about convincing moderates/undecideds who may not be very ideological.
If Reform frames itself as the “pragmatic, practical” choice (Reform politicians do this a lot) that’s how they can win – just by winning over undecided people.
But make no mistake, Labour and Reform offer very different policies. It’s just inaccurate to say Labour is copying Reform, as some people online seem to suggest.
Most obvious stat, anyone voting for Reform atm is either voting reform or Tories at the election
Which makes the constant attempt to win the nazi vote insane. They will never vote for labour so go with making real change rather than emulating some 1970s nonsense.
Two child limit gone…fantastic. Vat on private schools…fantastic. And then…not a lot else.
Only 1% **SAY** they would consider voting labour, **today** in 2026. There’s absolte some right wing tory/reform/restore voters labour will never attract, but there are plenty of ex labour voturs who will now be voting reform. Labour won the last election, and reform are now polling highest. Of course there is crossover
You can’t use this as a reason to not listen to the reasons many of labour and workign class voters have switched to reform.
At the next general election – we will already have witness the US 2028 election, the world will be a different place.
If Labour can continue listening to the overwheming public opinion that is anti-migration, and show some real results and reductions in small boat crossings/migrant hotels – there are plenty of voters who will look at the USA, Farage, the ex tory cabinet members standing for election for reofrm – and vote reluctantly for a labour party that has done *something*on immigration over a party that is promising fantasies about no migration but it comes with a whole load of other policies they don’t like.
When did my northern brethren forget who they were and sell themselves out to a vote to boris and brexit? Maybe the shame has led them to go even further
Because they are Tories.
Didnt majority of Tory voters abandon Tories and support Reform instead?
Tory vote collapsed, Labour near enough maintained its voter share (minus shedding to Lib Dems and Greens) but majority of Reform voters Torys who were done with them, they were never Labour voters anyways.
McSweeney and Glassman are idiots, as are anybody daft enough to listen to them.
Lol which proves how wrong Starmer was to try to appeal them
Same morons that got willingly swindled by Brexit lining up to get swindled again by the same guy
Quite why parties keep trying to appeal further to the right is beyond me. They’ll never vote for them, and in doing the pandering you lose centralist and leftists as voters.
It just makes it so blatant how rigged the system is.
Then they’re a lost cause and it’s up to normal people to get out and vote to keep these corrupt grifters from r*ping the country and turning everything into untraceable crypto.
And yet, labour are trying to pursue certain culture war policies, such as anti-Trans or anti-ADHD care rhetoric, because they think it will appeal to ex-labour voters who switched to Reform. None of those people are ever coming back. Yet they’re happy to lose current socially liberal voters to try to get the reform voters back.
I speak regularly to a fair few union reps, all of them are in dispair and think labour will lose the next general election. It’s not that Labour doesn’t do anything good, but it’s messaging is awful. They don’t promote the genuinely good stuff, but just promote the stuff that pisses off more socially liberal people
Is this 1% of people intending to vote Reform now, or 1% of people intending to vote Reform tomorrow?
Because there is little to convert the former group, but the latter is very different.
This is actually really surprising, so much so that I’m questioning their methodology. There are lots of seats where vote share has swapped between Reform/Brexit/UKIP and Labour, suggesting that many voters do in fact see their way to supporting either one at different times. Your stereotypical Reform voter is white working class, which is absolutely Labour demographic as well.
I can’t get any of the paywall dodging links to load so I can’t read the actual article though.
The propaganda they expose themselves to is sophisticated and frightening. I’ve lost friends to it. People I know have lost family to it. Anyone who has experience challenging the lies, bad faith and outright violent rhetoric they all parrot will know the saddest truth, and I say this from first hand experience, they don’t come back. The people you really liked before all this? They’re gone.
Because they just WONT AR CUNTRY BACK! Nevermind that this Labour government have enacted the harshest immigration rules of all time, they apparently need to go further and sink boats in the middle of the ocean.
Well I am sure they will of they just move a little bit more to the right! Keep attacking vulnerable groups keir, sure reform voters will back you sooner or later!