again will push? more likely 100% guaranteed to push same deal again.
arvigeus on
If tomorrow Ukraine musters the strength to push Russia out of all Ukrainian territory, Trump will come out and say they should give it back.
Niibler on
I’m surprised Trump didn’t announce a “peace” keeping US force to secure the land russia robbed from Ukraine at this point.
gravtix on
It shouldn’t even be a fear.
They should just expect it and plan accordingly.
nekonight on
What leverage does US still have over Ukraine? Most ammunition comes from European production not US production. Funds comes from the EU and is good for the next half decade. Combat systems are drones now produced locally. The only maybe leverage left is intelligence and France and UK has stepped up already.
TabernacleofTerror on
Well if daddy trump can’t handle iran, maybe he can handle ukraine by giving russia a deal. I’m sure that russia will help bring gas prices down, which we’ll just say “biden did that”.
BioAnagram on
If you are going to just wash your hands of both parties and leave them hanging it’s not rational to then pretend like you have any power over them.
US leverage over Russia is about the same as it has been and that has not been enough to result in any kind of peace.
US leverage over Ukraine is weaker now compared to before Trump. Ukraine has less to loose as most of what could be used as leverage has already been removed. As a consequence the US has LESS power and influence then before.
The Ukraine war will be resolved in Europe by Europeans. The US should maybe work on Iran before the entire world economy collapses.
Euclidisthebomb on
Trump is desperate for a “win” that he can tout to his acolytes in the run up to the mid-terms. He keeps on attempting to give away Ukraine, and attempt to crush allies in trade talks (Canada being a constant target). And keeps on failing.
His limited intellectual capacity does not allow him to grasp that the further he pushes Europe & Canada away from him with his various trade tactics and tirades on military dependence the less they are inclined to support any of his positions on Ukraine.
44Stryker44 on
That’s a reasonable fear
SJWTumblrinaMonster on
Setting aside historical precedent, what on earth would make them worry about that? Once again, ignoring everything that has happened before…
LewisKIII on
The US can push whatever it wants, Ukraine does not have to take anything!
Ukraine is literally making most of their weapons and Europe has stepped up and is helping supply weapons, intelligence, and money!
Ukraine is getting some weapons material from the US but not near as much before.
I don’t even know why the US is trying to mediate, they have been on the Russian’s side since day one. Trump is Putin’s lap dog!
Ukraine should say we are done with the US being a middle man, we want Turkey to be the new middle man and we will meet the Russians there.
Syke_qc on
Dont accept the rapist deal
academic_partypooper on
All the drone tech in the world won’t save them from US death grip friendship
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I too, have this fear
again will push? more likely 100% guaranteed to push same deal again.
If tomorrow Ukraine musters the strength to push Russia out of all Ukrainian territory, Trump will come out and say they should give it back.
I’m surprised Trump didn’t announce a “peace” keeping US force to secure the land russia robbed from Ukraine at this point.
It shouldn’t even be a fear.
They should just expect it and plan accordingly.
What leverage does US still have over Ukraine? Most ammunition comes from European production not US production. Funds comes from the EU and is good for the next half decade. Combat systems are drones now produced locally. The only maybe leverage left is intelligence and France and UK has stepped up already.
Well if daddy trump can’t handle iran, maybe he can handle ukraine by giving russia a deal. I’m sure that russia will help bring gas prices down, which we’ll just say “biden did that”.
If you are going to just wash your hands of both parties and leave them hanging it’s not rational to then pretend like you have any power over them.
US leverage over Russia is about the same as it has been and that has not been enough to result in any kind of peace.
US leverage over Ukraine is weaker now compared to before Trump. Ukraine has less to loose as most of what could be used as leverage has already been removed. As a consequence the US has LESS power and influence then before.
The Ukraine war will be resolved in Europe by Europeans. The US should maybe work on Iran before the entire world economy collapses.
Trump is desperate for a “win” that he can tout to his acolytes in the run up to the mid-terms. He keeps on attempting to give away Ukraine, and attempt to crush allies in trade talks (Canada being a constant target). And keeps on failing.
His limited intellectual capacity does not allow him to grasp that the further he pushes Europe & Canada away from him with his various trade tactics and tirades on military dependence the less they are inclined to support any of his positions on Ukraine.
That’s a reasonable fear
Setting aside historical precedent, what on earth would make them worry about that? Once again, ignoring everything that has happened before…
The US can push whatever it wants, Ukraine does not have to take anything!
Ukraine is literally making most of their weapons and Europe has stepped up and is helping supply weapons, intelligence, and money!
Ukraine is getting some weapons material from the US but not near as much before.
I don’t even know why the US is trying to mediate, they have been on the Russian’s side since day one. Trump is Putin’s lap dog!
Ukraine should say we are done with the US being a middle man, we want Turkey to be the new middle man and we will meet the Russians there.
Dont accept the rapist deal
All the drone tech in the world won’t save them from US death grip friendship
Trumps deals are always bullshit
He will.
The Art of the Deal