Great! We had too many grifters coming in on these visas and doing delivery jobs.
Jaded_Strain_3753 on
Excellent news. Credit to the government. Good to see dependants applications plummet as well.
SuperrVillain85 on
Universities are going to fold. The one my wife lectured at (a well known one which has been around since the late 1800s) is on the brink. They’ve become increasingly reliant on international students, and staff redundancies galore to keep it going so far.
A17012022 on
If you are serious about wanting to control immigration, you should be voting for the current Labour government.
There is PLENTY to criticise them for (Mandelson, OSA for starters), but their record on reducing immigration is the best we’ve had in at least a decade.
Reform voters I do not understand, because they’re going to vote for Nigel Farage. He told you Brexit was a good idea.
It caused a significant increase in immigration.
Helen83FromVillage on
So, after the government asked to check students’ attendance, half of them gave up.
External_Twist_3443 on
I hope some universities fold. The university system in the UK is way too dependent on international students and is bloated.
JackStrawWitchita on
Why would someone want to live and study in a country full of foreigner-hating Reform voters? There are plenty of great universities around the world who welcome students from around the world. Sadly, the UK is no longer one of them.
Hewinb on
International students contribute roughly £42 billion a year to the UK economy. Net of every cost they bring with them, it’s still about £37 billion. In Leeds alone, where I live, two universities, they put around £400 million into the local economy every year.
University fees from international students now make up nearly a quarter of total university income. That’s the money that subsidises teaching for British students. Take it away and 45% of English unis are already projected to be in deficit next year before you even factor in the visa collapse in.
If the big universities start shutting departments or going under, that’s thousands of jobs, an entire student housing market, and most of the local economy around campuses gone. Not ‘international student problem’ it becomes everyone’s problem.
But yeah, HUH DUH immigration. Let’s set fire to one of the few export industries we’re actually world-class at so the Home Office can put a smaller number on a slide to please the deformites.
UtopianScot on
Unis will get the flack for ‘poor financial decisions’, whilst governments starved the sector of funding.
No I am not talking about the scam degree factories. I’m talking about solid institutions who were forced into gambling it all on international student markets.
Feeling-Medium-7856 on
Damaging one of our leading industries because of Theresa May’s crackers idea that someone taking a Masters degree should be counted as a regular migrant.
The average Chinese student spends an absolute fortune not just on the university but accommodation and general living expenses (not to mention the tourism that gets tied up in the stay) and leaves after 12-18 months. Universities are massive employers.
Aware-Celebration873 on
People complain about immigration but student visa and their families bring 50B quid into the economy a year imagine. Immigration isn’t destroying the country its actually saving it.
throwawaycarg on
Some international students were here to abuse system by bringing 5 dependants. They are not doing this anymore.
Aerodye on
I don’t know from the headline if this is good or bad. I studied with lots of brilliant international students but there is a genuine problem with the visa farm lowest rung shit tier universities whose business model is exactly this
OkMirror1118 on
Tiny country, worlds number two destination for international students. This is a good thing.
Sensitive_Guest_5995 on
lol our education sector is going to absolutely die.
Say what you want about it. But anytime I’m seeing someone graduate. There’s about 70,000 Asian names that are making up a big amount of those graduates. Where is the uni going to get the money from now?
Tina123angel on
I love how everyone on this reddit is celebrating this when most of the universities are going to struggle to stay affloat. The international students contribute an ample lot to the economy. The reason the tories introduced the PSW and relaxed some of the rules a few years back was due to the universities tanking and less students coming in. This cycle continues every few years. The country and the government will be changing rules again in a few years time when they realise this was a shit outcome and then beg everyone to come back.
FuzzBuket on
Who knew that rolling students into migrant figures (something like 40% of migrants are just students, paying to be here, and paying for the nhs..) and then using them as an easy way to “lower migration” would backfire?
Sure there’s obvs a small amount of scam unis, but that’s a loophole. Without serious funding boosts less overseas students means unis start struggling hard.
occidens-oriens on
Comments in these types of posts are embarrassing to read, Correlli Barnett was right in describing the UK as the country of the “practical man” who is at best suspicious of higher education, or at worst actively hostile to it.
International students brought £42 billion to the UK economy from 2018-2022. They are massive net contributors and if they stay in the UK, they are far more likely to be in high paying roles that amplify their lifetime benefit
Education is one of the UK’s top services. For a relatively small country, we have a disproportionate number of highly ranked universities. This is not something we should take for granted, and chronic underinvestment threatens to erode our competitive edge over peer countries.
The majority of postgraduate STEM postgraduate students are internationals, many of whom go on to contribute to UK innovation and technology.
They are harder to employ than local students due to sponsorship requirements, and the government seeks to make this even more difficult because of a misleading talking point that internationals are “taking local jobs”. If an international graduate, who is substantially more expensive and more risky to employ, gets a job over a local graduate, there will be a fair reason for it. We already have preferential hiring for locals in select sectors, whether de facto or de jure, we don’t need to be even more nativist.
Any universities going bankrupt will have catastrophic consequences for the local area – they are frequently the largest employer in a given town or small city. The collapse of “lower tier” universities will disproportionately affect poorer students. Only in the UK do you hear commenters sincerely think that a return to the 1980s where 10% of people went to university is a good policy. The world has changed.
Important-Plane-9922 on
Anyone thinking this is a good thing is unfortunately a complete moron.
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Great! We had too many grifters coming in on these visas and doing delivery jobs.
Excellent news. Credit to the government. Good to see dependants applications plummet as well.
Universities are going to fold. The one my wife lectured at (a well known one which has been around since the late 1800s) is on the brink. They’ve become increasingly reliant on international students, and staff redundancies galore to keep it going so far.
If you are serious about wanting to control immigration, you should be voting for the current Labour government.
There is PLENTY to criticise them for (Mandelson, OSA for starters), but their record on reducing immigration is the best we’ve had in at least a decade.
Reform voters I do not understand, because they’re going to vote for Nigel Farage. He told you Brexit was a good idea.
It caused a significant increase in immigration.
So, after the government asked to check students’ attendance, half of them gave up.
I hope some universities fold. The university system in the UK is way too dependent on international students and is bloated.
Why would someone want to live and study in a country full of foreigner-hating Reform voters? There are plenty of great universities around the world who welcome students from around the world. Sadly, the UK is no longer one of them.
International students contribute roughly £42 billion a year to the UK economy. Net of every cost they bring with them, it’s still about £37 billion. In Leeds alone, where I live, two universities, they put around £400 million into the local economy every year.
University fees from international students now make up nearly a quarter of total university income. That’s the money that subsidises teaching for British students. Take it away and 45% of English unis are already projected to be in deficit next year before you even factor in the visa collapse in.
If the big universities start shutting departments or going under, that’s thousands of jobs, an entire student housing market, and most of the local economy around campuses gone. Not ‘international student problem’ it becomes everyone’s problem.
But yeah, HUH DUH immigration. Let’s set fire to one of the few export industries we’re actually world-class at so the Home Office can put a smaller number on a slide to please the deformites.
Unis will get the flack for ‘poor financial decisions’, whilst governments starved the sector of funding.
No I am not talking about the scam degree factories. I’m talking about solid institutions who were forced into gambling it all on international student markets.
Damaging one of our leading industries because of Theresa May’s crackers idea that someone taking a Masters degree should be counted as a regular migrant.
The average Chinese student spends an absolute fortune not just on the university but accommodation and general living expenses (not to mention the tourism that gets tied up in the stay) and leaves after 12-18 months. Universities are massive employers.
People complain about immigration but student visa and their families bring 50B quid into the economy a year imagine. Immigration isn’t destroying the country its actually saving it.
Some international students were here to abuse system by bringing 5 dependants. They are not doing this anymore.
I don’t know from the headline if this is good or bad. I studied with lots of brilliant international students but there is a genuine problem with the visa farm lowest rung shit tier universities whose business model is exactly this
Tiny country, worlds number two destination for international students. This is a good thing.
lol our education sector is going to absolutely die.
Say what you want about it. But anytime I’m seeing someone graduate. There’s about 70,000 Asian names that are making up a big amount of those graduates. Where is the uni going to get the money from now?
I love how everyone on this reddit is celebrating this when most of the universities are going to struggle to stay affloat. The international students contribute an ample lot to the economy. The reason the tories introduced the PSW and relaxed some of the rules a few years back was due to the universities tanking and less students coming in. This cycle continues every few years. The country and the government will be changing rules again in a few years time when they realise this was a shit outcome and then beg everyone to come back.
Who knew that rolling students into migrant figures (something like 40% of migrants are just students, paying to be here, and paying for the nhs..) and then using them as an easy way to “lower migration” would backfire?
Sure there’s obvs a small amount of scam unis, but that’s a loophole. Without serious funding boosts less overseas students means unis start struggling hard.
Comments in these types of posts are embarrassing to read, Correlli Barnett was right in describing the UK as the country of the “practical man” who is at best suspicious of higher education, or at worst actively hostile to it.
International students brought £42 billion to the UK economy from 2018-2022. They are massive net contributors and if they stay in the UK, they are far more likely to be in high paying roles that amplify their lifetime benefit
Education is one of the UK’s top services. For a relatively small country, we have a disproportionate number of highly ranked universities. This is not something we should take for granted, and chronic underinvestment threatens to erode our competitive edge over peer countries.
The majority of postgraduate STEM postgraduate students are internationals, many of whom go on to contribute to UK innovation and technology.
They are harder to employ than local students due to sponsorship requirements, and the government seeks to make this even more difficult because of a misleading talking point that internationals are “taking local jobs”. If an international graduate, who is substantially more expensive and more risky to employ, gets a job over a local graduate, there will be a fair reason for it. We already have preferential hiring for locals in select sectors, whether de facto or de jure, we don’t need to be even more nativist.
Any universities going bankrupt will have catastrophic consequences for the local area – they are frequently the largest employer in a given town or small city. The collapse of “lower tier” universities will disproportionately affect poorer students. Only in the UK do you hear commenters sincerely think that a return to the 1980s where 10% of people went to university is a good policy. The world has changed.
Anyone thinking this is a good thing is unfortunately a complete moron.