The Democrats Just Laid Down Their Arms. Again. – Abigail Spanberger’s response to the court decision that overthrew the will of voters on redistricting is a worrying sign of surrender.
The Democrats Just Laid Down Their Arms. Again. – Abigail Spanberger’s response to the court decision that overthrew the will of voters on redistricting is a worrying sign of surrender.
Let’s just forget why you were elected and do whatever the f you want, huh?
A_Refill_of_Mr_Pibb on
This country is going to fall to authoritarianism while these people continue to indulge their obsession with process.
Extension-Society455 on
So like….what were you guys EXPECTING her to do? Honestly asking.
Slaughterfest on
Wasn’t everyone talking about how she was the new face of the resistance like a month ago? The former intelligence officer?
Ok.
amprather on
She and the VA Dems need to go nuclear on the Virginia court.
Ruffles84 on
Difference is I would bet if they pulled an Ohio and used the map anyway Trunp would just activate the national guard and stop voting. You dont need to worry about that in red states.
GestureArtist on
I guess we’ll just lose then. The democrats suck at everything
justor-gone on
as a constituent, i’m terrified she’s going to be part of the generation of Democrats who use caution and principle to progressively abdicate power.
It does not gain the approval of her voters, in fact in repels them. It minimizes the threat not just to people’s political system, but to their actual lives.
Any Democrat who henceforth runs for office needs to understand that boldness is an attribute they need to not only claim, but demonstrate. Business as Usual is out of business. The new paradigm should be Any Means Necessary .
naththegrath10 on
Middle of the road Dems will always fold to the right wing
F1BlackFlag on
I am so fucking sick and tired of our representatives, being the pussies that they are.
Its time to fight .. NOT back down ..
pgregston on
So the state legislature could empty the state Supreme Court majority and have the voter approved map again but she won’t advance this? It’s really late in the game to not use any and every tool to fight the white nationalists.
KAJed on
A captured SCOTUS said get bent. wtf is this kind of trash coverage?
WylleWynne on
Who is going to object to a retirement age of 70? Tweak the VA Supreme Court by retiring at least one of them.
herewegoagain1024 on
What exactly did you guys want them to do? I get the frustration with the dems folding time and time again but this isn’t one of those times. Hands are tied this time. They’ve actually gone back and forth with maga on the redistricting since Texas did it
CrunchitizeMeCaptn on
Idk how to do the indentation, but to those (like I was) wondering what she could do to respond per the article:
“The idea Yeargain poses would be to lower the official retirement age to 54 by placing a modification in the annual budget bill that’s due by June 30, pass the legislation, and replace the hack justices—all of whom are older than 54—with seven new ones picked by Spanberger.”
SillyGoatGruff on
Seems to me that if you are going to change the retirement age of judges so you can throw out the current batch and install specific ones that will rule in your favour on a fast tracked rehearing, you might as well just ignore the judges and do whatever you want regardless
Chambanasfinest on
Supreme Court justices ARE political actors, whether they like it/admit it or not.
Overruling a free and fair election, the will of the people, on a 4-3 split decision due to a technicality, should absolutely result in political consequences.
mattjf22 on
Yep. They figure they’ll win the midterms anyway. However if they do not win the midterms they will never hold power again. I don’t think they understand how dire the situation is.
Republicans have already set a precedent to ignore gerrymandering court rulings. Time to play by the same set of rules.
brianishere2 on
When the courts over-step their authority, the executice branch must step in and assert its authority by ignoring the court’s unlawful decision or unlawful order.
Wizard_with_a_Pipe on
Democrats know that they do their best fundraising when they don’t win. It’s been a major part of their strategy for decades.
brianishere2 on
We have a total takeover by judges who are acting outside their authority and in total defiance of our Constitution and our system of laws a d precedents. From the Supreme Court down. Blue State officials need to start ignoring the unlawful orders and decisions. Declare them void and move on.
ares7 on
Well if they had a plan, it’s probably best not to tell your opponents until the last possible minute. Telling them now just give them time to stop you.
Prudent-Flamingo1679 on
This is why rich moderates can’t be trusted. They’ve got no skin on the game.
gnu_lorien on
Feckless cowards who won’t lift the tiniest finger to help the disenfranchised.
SegaTape on
all people want to see the democrats do is act like this is serious, and they still will not do that
FebruaryEcho on
Can’t trust white liberals to protect us. Never have. Never will.
qualmful on
The mistake was not trying to follow procedures originally. If you want to be upset look at how they could have submitted this all six months before they did and it would have been legal. They dragged their feet, submitted late, and handed VA SC an easy case. If they wanted it to go through they wouldn’t have rammed it through late.
SundayShelter on
Where did the whole *No Kings* thing go?
jockfist5000 on
Love something in life as much as democrats love rolling over. There are no good politicians coming to save us. There is no help on the way. It’s all downhill from here.
Lostinstereo28 on
Another day, another article bashing democrats on r/politics. Never change
Quasi-Yolo on
Our leadership is not up for this fight. They need to be replaced
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Let’s just forget why you were elected and do whatever the f you want, huh?
This country is going to fall to authoritarianism while these people continue to indulge their obsession with process.
So like….what were you guys EXPECTING her to do? Honestly asking.
Wasn’t everyone talking about how she was the new face of the resistance like a month ago? The former intelligence officer?
Ok.
She and the VA Dems need to go nuclear on the Virginia court.
Difference is I would bet if they pulled an Ohio and used the map anyway Trunp would just activate the national guard and stop voting. You dont need to worry about that in red states.
I guess we’ll just lose then. The democrats suck at everything
as a constituent, i’m terrified she’s going to be part of the generation of Democrats who use caution and principle to progressively abdicate power.
It does not gain the approval of her voters, in fact in repels them. It minimizes the threat not just to people’s political system, but to their actual lives.
Any Democrat who henceforth runs for office needs to understand that boldness is an attribute they need to not only claim, but demonstrate. Business as Usual is out of business. The new paradigm should be Any Means Necessary .
Middle of the road Dems will always fold to the right wing
I am so fucking sick and tired of our representatives, being the pussies that they are.
Its time to fight .. NOT back down ..
So the state legislature could empty the state Supreme Court majority and have the voter approved map again but she won’t advance this? It’s really late in the game to not use any and every tool to fight the white nationalists.
A captured SCOTUS said get bent. wtf is this kind of trash coverage?
Who is going to object to a retirement age of 70? Tweak the VA Supreme Court by retiring at least one of them.
What exactly did you guys want them to do? I get the frustration with the dems folding time and time again but this isn’t one of those times. Hands are tied this time. They’ve actually gone back and forth with maga on the redistricting since Texas did it
Idk how to do the indentation, but to those (like I was) wondering what she could do to respond per the article:
“The idea Yeargain poses would be to lower the official retirement age to 54 by placing a modification in the annual budget bill that’s due by June 30, pass the legislation, and replace the hack justices—all of whom are older than 54—with seven new ones picked by Spanberger.”
Seems to me that if you are going to change the retirement age of judges so you can throw out the current batch and install specific ones that will rule in your favour on a fast tracked rehearing, you might as well just ignore the judges and do whatever you want regardless
Supreme Court justices ARE political actors, whether they like it/admit it or not.
Overruling a free and fair election, the will of the people, on a 4-3 split decision due to a technicality, should absolutely result in political consequences.
Yep. They figure they’ll win the midterms anyway. However if they do not win the midterms they will never hold power again. I don’t think they understand how dire the situation is.
Republicans have already set a precedent to ignore gerrymandering court rulings. Time to play by the same set of rules.
When the courts over-step their authority, the executice branch must step in and assert its authority by ignoring the court’s unlawful decision or unlawful order.
Democrats know that they do their best fundraising when they don’t win. It’s been a major part of their strategy for decades.
We have a total takeover by judges who are acting outside their authority and in total defiance of our Constitution and our system of laws a d precedents. From the Supreme Court down. Blue State officials need to start ignoring the unlawful orders and decisions. Declare them void and move on.
Well if they had a plan, it’s probably best not to tell your opponents until the last possible minute. Telling them now just give them time to stop you.
This is why rich moderates can’t be trusted. They’ve got no skin on the game.
Feckless cowards who won’t lift the tiniest finger to help the disenfranchised.
all people want to see the democrats do is act like this is serious, and they still will not do that
Can’t trust white liberals to protect us. Never have. Never will.
The mistake was not trying to follow procedures originally. If you want to be upset look at how they could have submitted this all six months before they did and it would have been legal. They dragged their feet, submitted late, and handed VA SC an easy case. If they wanted it to go through they wouldn’t have rammed it through late.
Where did the whole *No Kings* thing go?
Love something in life as much as democrats love rolling over. There are no good politicians coming to save us. There is no help on the way. It’s all downhill from here.
Another day, another article bashing democrats on r/politics. Never change
Our leadership is not up for this fight. They need to be replaced