> A majority, 89%, said they want to leave the U.S. for political reasons, according to a sampling of 218 of the weekend’s attendees, per Barnett. Others say they hope to move for adventure and growth (73%), as well as to save money (57%).
ElysiumSprouts on
Economically it’s not a bad option at present regardless of any other rationale.
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sedatedlife on
I wish i could financially leave
SirWishbone on
The US is a failed state careening towards bankruptcy, fascism, and civil war.
Get out if you can.
Decent_Head1345 on
My neighbors. Lesbians. A software engineer and a nurse. 2 kids. Nice people.
They’re selling every single thing they own and heading to Spain. “We just don’t see it getting better here for a long time.”
StronglyHeldOpinions on
Can someone who paid those hundreds tell us how to do it here?
Squeekydink on
Just got back from a trip abroad. I’m in contact with an agency to help me find a job, and I don’t foresee myself staying here after this year. The damage has been done to the US and it will not be getting better for a long time.
Tooter_Snooter on
If you want to leave for Europe but don’t have away to get there, look up DAFT – Dutch American Friendship Treaty. All you need to do is put like 4k euros into the bank and start a business within 6 months of moving there and you’re good to go. You get a work visa for 2 years and if you get it, your spouse also gets one. It’s not cheap, of course but from what I can tell, that’s your best shot short of having familial connections.
orangelity on
That doesn’t help our chances come November, not that our chances seem to be very likely in the first place. I think getting people to leave was partly the idea to help subvert democracy
Ineedfunding007 on
Where are they going?
Callmemabryartistry on
it’s nice if you have the money.
poverty is what they want.
i’m not saying stay and fight and i’m not saying it’s good to go. everyone has their ideals and needs. but it is a wealthy persons endeavor.
it does mean the more that leave the worse it will get here.
we simply won’t have the numbers even if they played fair
WastelandOfConfusion on
America has fallen victim to a Trojan Horse.
Financial-Desk-669 on
1) We are going from ‘hundreds’ to ‘thousands’… so its not like there is a mass exodus.
2) Fuck em. If you’re rich enough to help make this mess, you sleep in the bed you made.
AwkwardTickler on
Amerexit is a great sub to get advice on how to get the fuck out of America.
Highly recommend. Its been 5 years since I left and have zero desire to ever return.
For those with major financial concerns remember if you’re moving to a country with universal health care you won’t have to have a massive retirement savings for the first time you get seriously sick or injured.
smeggysmeg on
🙋♂️ We left last year. Moved to the Netherlands. We’re all learning Dutch, with my kid nearly fluent already. We definitely have a better life here. Everywhere is so safe, mostly due to infrastructure that prioritizes viable alternatives to driving. I know the names of more of my neighbors here than I ever did in the 7 years we lived in our suburban street in America. This feels like something closer to real living.
Damerman on
My wife and I are by no means rich, we have a savings and we bought a house when we both worked in corporate jobs. She now owns a business and I day trade and we moved to France with our toddler. Eventually I plan on diversifying our American holdings to more European and Chinese assets.
I can’t, in good conscience, live in a country where an insurrectionist does not suffer the consequences of his actions. But is rather rewarded. The US constitution is broken.
ShadowFire09 on
I left in 2018. I saw the writing on the wall
CoachoftheYear2025 on
US federal employee and attorney educated in Canada… Getting Canadian citizenship for myself and my kids. Will work on my wife’s next. Take my US pension and go work for the Canadian government defending against the US.
TheHumanGnomeProject on
I left in March 2023 to pursue a PhD in New Zealand. I’m writing up my dissertation and was applying to jobs and realized that even though the best jobs are in the US, I didn’t want to get shot, harassed by the police, I didn’t want to start having to tip again, I’m not a fan of the violent crime in the US, I don’t much care for the traffic, the car culture, the noise pollution, the crowds, and I’m looking to put a ring on my Kiwi gf’s finger and the last thing I would ever want to do is expose her to the craziness of my homeland. I think I’m going to have to figure out how to stay.
ZukowskiHardware on
My neighbors voted for Jill stein then left the country for Montreal.
Academic_Coyote_9741 on
I had a Green Card and had been in the US over a decade, but at the end of the first Trump administration my family decided to get the hell out of there.
ClosetNorwegian on
My husband, daughter and I left at the end of February. We relocated to Toronto (husband is Canadian), and could not be happier with our decision.
AcanthisittaNo6653 on
>It’s the first time in at least 50 years that more people moved out of the country than moved in.
At that rate, the US will have 2-3 fewer congressional districts by the end of trump’s term,
BF1shY on
My wife and I considered moving to the Caribbean. US is absolutely fucked for the next 40-60 years. The dumbest motherfuckers are screaming the loudest and being listened to.
MaIakai on
Midterms will be the line in the sand for a lot of people to make this decision
Careless-Internet-63 on
I don’t think I’ll ever leave the PNW and have spent most of my life in Seattle but right now if I had an opportunity to move to BC I don’t think there’s any way I could say no to it
Awingbestwing on
Anyone know of counties willing to take in a disabled person?
Round-Guarantee4948 on
3 years, I’ll retire at 51, then moving to Norway and never stepping foot in this country again, with numerous a-holes and lazy, entitled, all-out nasty people…especially now in rural America..this country and it’s people can go %$#@ themselves
throway_nonjw on
For any Americans thinking about Australia, I suggest two YT vid channels.
Lex_inWonderland. She does mostly shorts but she’s having a good time.
The Aussieverse. This guy does more informed longform vids, mostl;u about education, healthcare, and life in general. You’ll enoy his stuff.
A_Refill_of_Mr_Pibb on
That’s nice I guess, to have the ability and the cash to do that. I can’t do something similar to get off the sinking ship. I’m a single, forty-something working-class person with nothing exceptional to offer (English B.A. and an MLS soon). To the couples who are watching and living their best lives, their dream lives elsewhere: cherish what you have, and I’m sorry those of us further down the financial ladder couldn’t do the same. Maybe next life.
Creative-Package6213 on
Considering that the US is about to look like Russia after the collapse of the USSR, it’s not a bad idea to leave if you can.
ArthurWoodberry on
The techbros and media responsible for Trump’s America have ‘cracked the code’ and any capitalist country with unrestricted social media can have the same propaganda engine spun up and sooner or later their own homegrown fascist movement will take power.
Can you keep moving faster than the speed of lies?
I’ll stay and make my stand.
danjr704 on
My wife and I are considering this. Problem is my age, I’m in my 40s and closer to retirement than my wife. I have good amount saved up and projections look good as well for retirement age. But if I were to move, I’d have to give up my very good retirement benefits from work. But I know if i do leave, future health benefits are much better than US. Tough to make these decisions, but have to do what’s best for my wife and son (1 yr old). We’ll see what happens.
OutrageousInvite3949 on
I’m a straight white dude and if opportunity came I’d leave.
BrotatoDad on
Wow, so much horrible advice flying around in here.
EmbarrassedPut3706 on
I’m trying to flee to Mexico ASAP
ArtVandelay009 on
Anecdotally, I am seeing a ton of people around me looking into their citizenship / immigration rights to other countries. There is an interesting confluence of factors causing that I think. That said, I expect that Canada is seen as a destination for many educated Americans that can bring their jobs with them. At my company several people are in process of transferring from the US to the UK and Canada.
Life-Quantity-637 on
Why would anyone ever want to live elsewhere? That’s what we used to teach children not so long ago.
SpaceCricket on
We purchased property in Europe last year and are speed running our hopefully early retirement there in about 5 years. We’d leave now if we had jobs we could do there but easier to just retire in a bit.
SellaraAB on
Several lifelong friends have fled to different countries. Feel like I might be fucking up by not making a break for it while we still can.
AnAngryBartender on
Dang. People don’t wanna live under a pedo dictator that fucks over the little guy and makes himself and all his already rich buddies richer instead? Shocking.
Fruitbat619 on
I only have an associates degree, I’m still trying to find a way to leave somewhere anyone alse in my situation? I work as a secretary in a hospital.
Wind_Rune on
I moved to the Philippines and haven’t looked back. I worked dead end retail jobs in the US my whole life and planned my exit with less than a few thousand dollars, an online job and luckily finding a loophole to claim my Filipino citizenship since my parents were still Filipino citizens when I was born.
I live an upper middle class lifestyle here and home ownership is a hand reach away. Unlike the states, where I couldn’t even dream of owning a home.
I also feel safer from mass shootings, war and mental health is better here; as in people are generally happier.
Healthcare is worse here but to be honest, if I faced a big health crisis in the states I didn’t have health insurance anyway. Also, my asthma inhaler without insurance there was $700 and here it’s about $20-30 without insurance. Dental care is more affordable too.
Paranoid_Orangutan on
The rest of us poors will just have to endure I guess
Historical_Creme_125 on
I wish I could leave too. My husband is hesitant.
prince-rabbit on
Wife and I are currently into it. I’m a literature professor, she’s an electrical engineer, just got her PhD. The hardest part for us is not having any family abroad, so we gotta get in the job-hunting-in-canada grind.
Redfish680 on
Waiting for midterm elections and going from there.
As for the whole “why are you cutting and running?/Where’s your loyalty?” questioners, both my wife and I retired from Civil Service after 30 years in various positions, from EPA to DoD, and I did almost a decade on submarines in the Navy, so yeah, what this country has become isn’t what we worked all those years for. I used to say I did my military service to protect everyone’s right to speak their mind but having come to the conclusion that there’s a shit ton of people who have lost theirs, that opinion hasn’t aged well.
AutoignitingDumpster on
My fiancée moved to NZ with me and originally we thought we’d move back after a few years. Nope, we scraped those plans and we’re remaining where we are.
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> A majority, 89%, said they want to leave the U.S. for political reasons, according to a sampling of 218 of the weekend’s attendees, per Barnett. Others say they hope to move for adventure and growth (73%), as well as to save money (57%).
Economically it’s not a bad option at present regardless of any other rationale.
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I wish i could financially leave
The US is a failed state careening towards bankruptcy, fascism, and civil war.
Get out if you can.
My neighbors. Lesbians. A software engineer and a nurse. 2 kids. Nice people.
They’re selling every single thing they own and heading to Spain. “We just don’t see it getting better here for a long time.”
Can someone who paid those hundreds tell us how to do it here?
Just got back from a trip abroad. I’m in contact with an agency to help me find a job, and I don’t foresee myself staying here after this year. The damage has been done to the US and it will not be getting better for a long time.
If you want to leave for Europe but don’t have away to get there, look up DAFT – Dutch American Friendship Treaty. All you need to do is put like 4k euros into the bank and start a business within 6 months of moving there and you’re good to go. You get a work visa for 2 years and if you get it, your spouse also gets one. It’s not cheap, of course but from what I can tell, that’s your best shot short of having familial connections.
That doesn’t help our chances come November, not that our chances seem to be very likely in the first place. I think getting people to leave was partly the idea to help subvert democracy
Where are they going?
it’s nice if you have the money.
poverty is what they want.
i’m not saying stay and fight and i’m not saying it’s good to go. everyone has their ideals and needs. but it is a wealthy persons endeavor.
it does mean the more that leave the worse it will get here.
we simply won’t have the numbers even if they played fair
America has fallen victim to a Trojan Horse.
1) We are going from ‘hundreds’ to ‘thousands’… so its not like there is a mass exodus.
2) Fuck em. If you’re rich enough to help make this mess, you sleep in the bed you made.
Amerexit is a great sub to get advice on how to get the fuck out of America.
Highly recommend. Its been 5 years since I left and have zero desire to ever return.
For those with major financial concerns remember if you’re moving to a country with universal health care you won’t have to have a massive retirement savings for the first time you get seriously sick or injured.
🙋♂️ We left last year. Moved to the Netherlands. We’re all learning Dutch, with my kid nearly fluent already. We definitely have a better life here. Everywhere is so safe, mostly due to infrastructure that prioritizes viable alternatives to driving. I know the names of more of my neighbors here than I ever did in the 7 years we lived in our suburban street in America. This feels like something closer to real living.
My wife and I are by no means rich, we have a savings and we bought a house when we both worked in corporate jobs. She now owns a business and I day trade and we moved to France with our toddler. Eventually I plan on diversifying our American holdings to more European and Chinese assets.
I can’t, in good conscience, live in a country where an insurrectionist does not suffer the consequences of his actions. But is rather rewarded. The US constitution is broken.
I left in 2018. I saw the writing on the wall
US federal employee and attorney educated in Canada… Getting Canadian citizenship for myself and my kids. Will work on my wife’s next. Take my US pension and go work for the Canadian government defending against the US.
I left in March 2023 to pursue a PhD in New Zealand. I’m writing up my dissertation and was applying to jobs and realized that even though the best jobs are in the US, I didn’t want to get shot, harassed by the police, I didn’t want to start having to tip again, I’m not a fan of the violent crime in the US, I don’t much care for the traffic, the car culture, the noise pollution, the crowds, and I’m looking to put a ring on my Kiwi gf’s finger and the last thing I would ever want to do is expose her to the craziness of my homeland. I think I’m going to have to figure out how to stay.
My neighbors voted for Jill stein then left the country for Montreal.
I had a Green Card and had been in the US over a decade, but at the end of the first Trump administration my family decided to get the hell out of there.
My husband, daughter and I left at the end of February. We relocated to Toronto (husband is Canadian), and could not be happier with our decision.
>It’s the first time in at least 50 years that more people moved out of the country than moved in.
At that rate, the US will have 2-3 fewer congressional districts by the end of trump’s term,
My wife and I considered moving to the Caribbean. US is absolutely fucked for the next 40-60 years. The dumbest motherfuckers are screaming the loudest and being listened to.
Midterms will be the line in the sand for a lot of people to make this decision
I don’t think I’ll ever leave the PNW and have spent most of my life in Seattle but right now if I had an opportunity to move to BC I don’t think there’s any way I could say no to it
Anyone know of counties willing to take in a disabled person?
3 years, I’ll retire at 51, then moving to Norway and never stepping foot in this country again, with numerous a-holes and lazy, entitled, all-out nasty people…especially now in rural America..this country and it’s people can go %$#@ themselves
For any Americans thinking about Australia, I suggest two YT vid channels.
Lex_inWonderland. She does mostly shorts but she’s having a good time.
The Aussieverse. This guy does more informed longform vids, mostl;u about education, healthcare, and life in general. You’ll enoy his stuff.
That’s nice I guess, to have the ability and the cash to do that. I can’t do something similar to get off the sinking ship. I’m a single, forty-something working-class person with nothing exceptional to offer (English B.A. and an MLS soon). To the couples who are watching and living their best lives, their dream lives elsewhere: cherish what you have, and I’m sorry those of us further down the financial ladder couldn’t do the same. Maybe next life.
Considering that the US is about to look like Russia after the collapse of the USSR, it’s not a bad idea to leave if you can.
The techbros and media responsible for Trump’s America have ‘cracked the code’ and any capitalist country with unrestricted social media can have the same propaganda engine spun up and sooner or later their own homegrown fascist movement will take power.
Can you keep moving faster than the speed of lies?
I’ll stay and make my stand.
My wife and I are considering this. Problem is my age, I’m in my 40s and closer to retirement than my wife. I have good amount saved up and projections look good as well for retirement age. But if I were to move, I’d have to give up my very good retirement benefits from work. But I know if i do leave, future health benefits are much better than US. Tough to make these decisions, but have to do what’s best for my wife and son (1 yr old). We’ll see what happens.
I’m a straight white dude and if opportunity came I’d leave.
Wow, so much horrible advice flying around in here.
I’m trying to flee to Mexico ASAP
Anecdotally, I am seeing a ton of people around me looking into their citizenship / immigration rights to other countries. There is an interesting confluence of factors causing that I think. That said, I expect that Canada is seen as a destination for many educated Americans that can bring their jobs with them. At my company several people are in process of transferring from the US to the UK and Canada.
Why would anyone ever want to live elsewhere? That’s what we used to teach children not so long ago.
We purchased property in Europe last year and are speed running our hopefully early retirement there in about 5 years. We’d leave now if we had jobs we could do there but easier to just retire in a bit.
Several lifelong friends have fled to different countries. Feel like I might be fucking up by not making a break for it while we still can.
Dang. People don’t wanna live under a pedo dictator that fucks over the little guy and makes himself and all his already rich buddies richer instead? Shocking.
I only have an associates degree, I’m still trying to find a way to leave somewhere anyone alse in my situation? I work as a secretary in a hospital.
I moved to the Philippines and haven’t looked back. I worked dead end retail jobs in the US my whole life and planned my exit with less than a few thousand dollars, an online job and luckily finding a loophole to claim my Filipino citizenship since my parents were still Filipino citizens when I was born.
I live an upper middle class lifestyle here and home ownership is a hand reach away. Unlike the states, where I couldn’t even dream of owning a home.
I also feel safer from mass shootings, war and mental health is better here; as in people are generally happier.
Healthcare is worse here but to be honest, if I faced a big health crisis in the states I didn’t have health insurance anyway. Also, my asthma inhaler without insurance there was $700 and here it’s about $20-30 without insurance. Dental care is more affordable too.
The rest of us poors will just have to endure I guess
I wish I could leave too. My husband is hesitant.
Wife and I are currently into it. I’m a literature professor, she’s an electrical engineer, just got her PhD. The hardest part for us is not having any family abroad, so we gotta get in the job-hunting-in-canada grind.
Waiting for midterm elections and going from there.
As for the whole “why are you cutting and running?/Where’s your loyalty?” questioners, both my wife and I retired from Civil Service after 30 years in various positions, from EPA to DoD, and I did almost a decade on submarines in the Navy, so yeah, what this country has become isn’t what we worked all those years for. I used to say I did my military service to protect everyone’s right to speak their mind but having come to the conclusion that there’s a shit ton of people who have lost theirs, that opinion hasn’t aged well.
My fiancée moved to NZ with me and originally we thought we’d move back after a few years. Nope, we scraped those plans and we’re remaining where we are.