We put pets down to spare them suffering and they can’t tell us if that is what they want but we force humans who can tell us what they want to suffer, it has never made sense to me.
The way the Lords used amendments to stall it just hardened my “we really need to get rid of the lords in their current guise” stance.
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The economist ran an article about ‘death parties’ where someone terminal undergoes euthanasia they can choose there own way out. Some people watch the sunset. Some have a family get together and a funeral where at some point in the evening theyll slip away to a backroom. This is all betger than dying in pain in a hospital bed hooked up to any life preserving medication. We have free will and should have a dignified exit
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You already have a choice. What you’re actually doing is asking someone else to murder you.
InnocentaMN on
We do need assisted dying, but it’s very difficult to establish it ethically and safely in a country that is currently failing to care for people with disabilities. MAID is a shitshow in Canada and a terrible example of what can happen.
I have friends who have experienced close family members using assisted dying, and I support it – the person I love best in the world suffered hugely due to it **not** being an option in their immediate family at a time of need. So I’m not dismissing it. But I’m also disabled with a history of serious mental illness and I don’t trust the state to deliver it safely at the moment. That’s not to say I don’t think we should continue trying to introduce it – I think we should. But it needs to be safe.
QuixoticRhapsody on
Thankfully, the bill lost for a reason. We got so close to genuine disaster, far too close. We need to use this time for far better palliative care, not this.
Pumpkinshroomva on
It should be revived, and we should consider abolishing the HoL over it. It’s just not the job of the HoL to kill acts like that. What they did was fundamentally outside the norms of our democracy, and there has to be punishment for bad behaviour.
IkeTurn on
I’ve witnessed this in Switzerland. You usually receive two injections. The first is to paralyze you. The second is what actually kills you. It can take up to 30 minutes for it to kill you. You are paralyzed because the second jab is incredibly painful and its to stop you thrashing around on the bed. So technically you’re in pain for half an hour.
I have also witnessed many people die from Morphine due to end of life care for dementia or cancer etc, and that is actually less painful for you to die , but it takes weeks sometimes for the body to get to the stage where it just shuts down. You’re normally at the stage where you’re just in a sleeping zone all the time.
Because of this I would never support assisted dying. Your mileage may vary of course.
CyberpunkAesthetics on
People can kill an unborn child without its consent; but you can’t help someone terminally ill who wants to die with dignity
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It should have passed last time.
We put pets down to spare them suffering and they can’t tell us if that is what they want but we force humans who can tell us what they want to suffer, it has never made sense to me.
The way the Lords used amendments to stall it just hardened my “we really need to get rid of the lords in their current guise” stance.
The economist ran an article about ‘death parties’ where someone terminal undergoes euthanasia they can choose there own way out. Some people watch the sunset. Some have a family get together and a funeral where at some point in the evening theyll slip away to a backroom. This is all betger than dying in pain in a hospital bed hooked up to any life preserving medication. We have free will and should have a dignified exit
You already have a choice. What you’re actually doing is asking someone else to murder you.
We do need assisted dying, but it’s very difficult to establish it ethically and safely in a country that is currently failing to care for people with disabilities. MAID is a shitshow in Canada and a terrible example of what can happen.
I have friends who have experienced close family members using assisted dying, and I support it – the person I love best in the world suffered hugely due to it **not** being an option in their immediate family at a time of need. So I’m not dismissing it. But I’m also disabled with a history of serious mental illness and I don’t trust the state to deliver it safely at the moment. That’s not to say I don’t think we should continue trying to introduce it – I think we should. But it needs to be safe.
Thankfully, the bill lost for a reason. We got so close to genuine disaster, far too close. We need to use this time for far better palliative care, not this.
It should be revived, and we should consider abolishing the HoL over it. It’s just not the job of the HoL to kill acts like that. What they did was fundamentally outside the norms of our democracy, and there has to be punishment for bad behaviour.
I’ve witnessed this in Switzerland. You usually receive two injections. The first is to paralyze you. The second is what actually kills you. It can take up to 30 minutes for it to kill you. You are paralyzed because the second jab is incredibly painful and its to stop you thrashing around on the bed. So technically you’re in pain for half an hour.
I have also witnessed many people die from Morphine due to end of life care for dementia or cancer etc, and that is actually less painful for you to die , but it takes weeks sometimes for the body to get to the stage where it just shuts down. You’re normally at the stage where you’re just in a sleeping zone all the time.
Because of this I would never support assisted dying. Your mileage may vary of course.
People can kill an unborn child without its consent; but you can’t help someone terminally ill who wants to die with dignity