> but defenders say it (FPTP) means decisive results and, in theory, more stable government.
Stop laughing at the back.
Always been hard to defend getting 63% of the MP’s from 33.7% of the vote (as happened at the last election).
Just sad that it took this long for them to maybe consider a system that has benefitted both major parties isn’t perhaps fair or democratic.
coffeewalnut08 on
**”More than 60 MPs are calling for a rethink of the UK’s first-past-the-post voting system, which they have labelled “broken”.**
They are backing a new national commission to examine the current system for elections to the House of Commons and recommend reforms.
Critics have long said the first-past-the-post system means candidates can be elected on a relatively low share of the vote, undermining democracy, but defenders say it means decisive results and, in theory, more stable government.
The new political backdrop of multi-party politics which has emerged in recent years, with smaller parties challenging Labour and the Conservatives, has reignited calls for electoral reform.
First past the post is the voting system for UK general elections and elections to English councils.
This means the candidate with the most votes wins in a constituency and becomes an MP, while the party with the most MPs wins the election.
Reform UK, the Lib Dems, the Green Party, SNP and Plaid Cymru have all argued for a more proportional voting system. This would link a party’s share of seats in Westminster more closely to the share of votes they receive overall. Elections to the Welsh and Scottish Parliaments use a proportional voting system.
The Conservatives want to stick with first past the post.
Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer supported electoral reform during his bid to become Labour leader in 2020 but has since dropped his pledge and did not include it in the party’s 2024 general election manifesto. Some 64 Labour MPs have now signed up to an amendment to the Representation of the People Bill, calling for a national commission on electoral reform.
The amendment has been tabled by Alex Sobel, the Labour MP for Leeds Central and Headingley.
Sobel, who is also chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) for Fair Elections, urged MPs from all parties to join the “common sense” call ahead of the bill’s expected return to the Commons next month.
“The prime minister in his reset speech said ‘a return to the status quo would not be enough for people’,” he said.
“First past the post is one of the biggest examples of a broken status quo in UK politics.
“A very modest part of any reset would be to accept and announce a National Commission for Electoral Reform.”
The amendment’s signatories include select committee chairs Ruth Cadbury, Cat Smith and Helen Hayes.
In 2022, Labour members at the party’s annual conference [voted in favour of a commitment to introduce proportional representation for general elections](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63036884). Eight out of Labour’s eleven affiliated trade unions also have formal policy in favour of electoral reform…”
coffeewalnut08 on
I tend to agree with these MPs.
Petition for an electoral review: [https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/762149](https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/762149) I know these have been done before, but if people who agree can keep putting pressure then it strengthens the argument that things need to change.
aleopardstail on
funny how they care about this now when they face the sort of election results the conservatives got last time
SinisterPixel on
I’ll be honest if Labour did push this through, alongside decoupling gas from wholesale energy prices, I might actually vote for them again
AltogetherGuy on
The last stable government we had was the coalition.
whyowhyowhy9 on
We should move to either ranked choice or STV
Those would require the least amount of effort
PangolinOk6793 on
I knew someone in labour would eventually hit the panic button on this.
Run offs (France) and PR (Germany) are powerful safeguards against an extreme party winning.
With FPTP. Any party only needs to pull 10 points clear and they will win a massive majority, even pulling numbers in the low 30s.
I bet they still screw up the policy and recommend something stupid like AV again.
Llotrog on
The system they implemented in Wales assures no-one gets a majority if they want to take that UK-wide…
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> but defenders say it (FPTP) means decisive results and, in theory, more stable government.
Stop laughing at the back.
Always been hard to defend getting 63% of the MP’s from 33.7% of the vote (as happened at the last election).
Just sad that it took this long for them to maybe consider a system that has benefitted both major parties isn’t perhaps fair or democratic.
**”More than 60 MPs are calling for a rethink of the UK’s first-past-the-post voting system, which they have labelled “broken”.**
They are backing a new national commission to examine the current system for elections to the House of Commons and recommend reforms.
Critics have long said the first-past-the-post system means candidates can be elected on a relatively low share of the vote, undermining democracy, but defenders say it means decisive results and, in theory, more stable government.
The new political backdrop of multi-party politics which has emerged in recent years, with smaller parties challenging Labour and the Conservatives, has reignited calls for electoral reform.
First past the post is the voting system for UK general elections and elections to English councils.
This means the candidate with the most votes wins in a constituency and becomes an MP, while the party with the most MPs wins the election.
Reform UK, the Lib Dems, the Green Party, SNP and Plaid Cymru have all argued for a more proportional voting system. This would link a party’s share of seats in Westminster more closely to the share of votes they receive overall. Elections to the Welsh and Scottish Parliaments use a proportional voting system.
The Conservatives want to stick with first past the post.
Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer supported electoral reform during his bid to become Labour leader in 2020 but has since dropped his pledge and did not include it in the party’s 2024 general election manifesto. Some 64 Labour MPs have now signed up to an amendment to the Representation of the People Bill, calling for a national commission on electoral reform.
The government’s bill [includes extending the right to vote to 16 and 17-year-olds](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly2jjvx466o).
The amendment has been tabled by Alex Sobel, the Labour MP for Leeds Central and Headingley.
Sobel, who is also chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) for Fair Elections, urged MPs from all parties to join the “common sense” call ahead of the bill’s expected return to the Commons next month.
“The prime minister in his reset speech said ‘a return to the status quo would not be enough for people’,” he said.
“First past the post is one of the biggest examples of a broken status quo in UK politics.
“A very modest part of any reset would be to accept and announce a National Commission for Electoral Reform.”
The amendment’s signatories include select committee chairs Ruth Cadbury, Cat Smith and Helen Hayes.
In 2022, Labour members at the party’s annual conference [voted in favour of a commitment to introduce proportional representation for general elections](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63036884). Eight out of Labour’s eleven affiliated trade unions also have formal policy in favour of electoral reform…”
I tend to agree with these MPs.
Petition for an electoral review: [https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/762149](https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/762149) I know these have been done before, but if people who agree can keep putting pressure then it strengthens the argument that things need to change.
funny how they care about this now when they face the sort of election results the conservatives got last time
I’ll be honest if Labour did push this through, alongside decoupling gas from wholesale energy prices, I might actually vote for them again
The last stable government we had was the coalition.
We should move to either ranked choice or STV
Those would require the least amount of effort
I knew someone in labour would eventually hit the panic button on this.
Run offs (France) and PR (Germany) are powerful safeguards against an extreme party winning.
With FPTP. Any party only needs to pull 10 points clear and they will win a massive majority, even pulling numbers in the low 30s.
I bet they still screw up the policy and recommend something stupid like AV again.
The system they implemented in Wales assures no-one gets a majority if they want to take that UK-wide…
What’s up with Labout lately?
Haven’t they got a LFI ring to kiss?