We can’t expect our leaders to make good decisions when they’re *sober*, can we?
Difficult-Egg-5001 on
Yeah she’s got a great point, I don’t want the people making decisions that effect all of us anywhere near intoxicated.
If any one of us turned up and drank at work, I guarantee we would be out the door before the beverage was finished.
CropCircles_ on
I find it outrageous that MPs are allowed to drink on the job. You would get fired for this in any other profession. It’s things like this that destroy public trust in politicians.
ReligiousGhoul on
Don’t want it banned outright, maybe hours limited till parliaments out of session?
Interesting Spencer’s apparently decided this to be her raison d’etre.
Haunting_Design5818 on
Those saying everyone else would be fired have clearly never been in the city at lunchtime on any given weekday.
UnableAd457 on
Hopefully she will keep on about it. They are there to work not get pissed on taxpayer subsidised booze.
mashed666 on
It used to be acceptable in offices to come back a little drunk on a Friday afternoon maybe. These guys are having a pint with breakfast…
voluntarydischarge69 on
I work a shitty minimum wage job yet I’m expected to turn up to work sober and subject to random testing, why aren’t these clowns being tested and prosecuted for being intoxicated while in a position of responsibility. Didn’t they test the waste water under Westminster and found it laced with coke?
Vivid_Employment8635 on
Probably thinks it should be a legal crack den instead
nozickiantheory on
This is probably the most sober Parliament in the entirety of British history, and also probably the most pathetic and useless. MPs having a pint before walking down an aisle to vote how the whips tell them is not really anywhere on my list of concerns for how the country is run. The Greens having >1 MP/Hannah Spencer even being a thing is a far bigger indictment of the state of the country
brocanyouchillout on
a beer at lunch or a single glass of wine isn’t bad but if the mps are getting sloshed what the hell are we even doing here
Crumbdiddy on
Bruh click the link and 75% of my screen is ads, get fucked holy shit.
Min_sora on
Blimey, some in-denial alcoholics showed up to this post.
Edit: Also a bunch of delusional people who think MPs are just having a pint in a day.
ThatBaconSandwich on
God it’s such a boring schtick – “Despite being a politician and a brazen and mendacious opportunist, I am different and above all the other brazen and mendacious political opportunists..”
She is going to bang this drum into the ground. And she’s a plumber BTW did you know ?
Star_Towel on
I saw her ask that question in pmq’s today, and instead of answering an actual serious point, the pm attacks her party leader and completely dodges the question. I want an answer to this, why am I subsidising people on 90k+ wages their vice during working hours? Like wtf hello?
DeliciousLiving8563 on
The reality is that most people can have a drink or two at lunch without a scandal.
Except public sector workers who’d be in trouble. The same way politicians can solicit sugar daddies in newspapers but if the admin at a children’s home gets a gift over £5 they have to report and probably surrender it.
Of course that doesn’t stop some councils from being a bit corrupt but it’s funny that politicians are the only public servants not held to a high standard.
therealhairykrishna on
I’m slightly astonished at the number of people who are totally fine with MP’s drinking at work. In their tax payer subsidised work bar.
Yes, when I had a temp job moving office furniture we used to go for lunchtime beers. But now, in a job which has actual responsibility and requires thinking? Don’t be ridiculous.
ZanzibarGuy on
I’d let them have subsidised food and drink of they did away with them having second jobs.
But they’re not going to go for that, so they should pay full whack like the rest of us.
SlickyKimmel on
Suggestion:
Shot of whiskey when entering the chamber – compulsory.
Pint before start of debate – compulsory.
Any beverage like tea, coffee, fruit juices to be fortified with rum – compulsory.
Any water serving must be 1 measure of water and 2 measures of wine – compulsory.
Can’t think of more, please suggest.
577564842 on
>Responding, the PM welcomed her to Westminster, but mocked the Green leader Zack > Polanski over his tax affairs. Earlier this month, the Green Party admitted Mr Polanski may have failed to pay the correct council tax while living on a London > houseboat.
[…]
“The only way to deliver that is through a Labour government, as we are doing. I > know the Greens think that their leader walks on water, it turns out that he just > lives on water and doesn’t pay his council tax.”
Very brave (not to say thick) given that his own Reeves has been reviewed for half a year for (checking notes) real estate tax evasion (put a required amount of sugar coating over this).
Vdubnub88 on
It’s double standards when MPs can drink cheaper drinks in Westminster than the public can in local pubs, maybe they would understand the cost of living a little better if they had to pay normal pub prices too…
The bigger issue is why politicians are drinking alcohol during the working day before making decisions/voting that affect the country?? Seems bizarre
CaptainHindsight92 on
Rather than trying to drag the politicians down with us we should demand our right to government subsidised pints on the job, seems like it will make work more tolerable tbh.
_HGCenty on
You know who else gets to have subsidised alcohol? The journalists in Parliament who report on the MPs.
That’s why they don’t really make a massive deal about it.
True-Abalone-3380 on
One thing no one seems to have picked up on is that MPs network, socialise and also entertain in the estate. Quite a few of the bars are also open to anyone on the estate, I think that’s around 10,000 people who can use them.
It’s a largely private and secure environment, remember this isn’t a factory job making widgets.
The prices are also more comparable to cheap pubs such as a Spoons.
UJ_Reddit on
Such an easy win for Starmer. A way to show the ‘draining of the swamp’. But he ignores the question.
The food is also insanely substasised too, Michellen star lobster is £15. All on the tax payers coin.
ChiefRetardAssessor on
Put simply, politicians are held to account using the Nolan Principles. Any politician that is intoxicated at work has failed to meet the standard and should immediately resign or they make a mockery of parliament.
To clarify: intoxication doesn’t mean falling down drunk, it means a blood alcohol content level of 0.08g/L or higher. If they can’t legally operate machinery, they can’t rightfully make sound judgements on policies that impact the livlihoods of our citizens.
Few-Dig4020 on
Do you expect any better from the greens. They’ve gone from tree huggers to once a country with no borders and drugs freely available in schools. And would you believe some people vote for them?
Sutty100 on
Is there nothing more pressing she could ask the PM? Seems odd to use your first question on this topic. It does create headlines I guess
waltermayo on
you do all realise that her point isn’t “a pint with lunch” or a “quick one after a long day”, don’t you? if you literally *stink* of alcohol, you’ve not just had one drink.
are we really that fucking obsessed with our drinking culture that we’re fine with the people we’ve elected to make the decisions that effect our lives being drunk when they do so?
opaqueentity on
Just take away free or discounted stuff, stake away the ability to claim for housing and travel as you knew what you’d be doing for a living, the rest of us have to suck it up. Think she’d be happy with that as you can’t just pick on one element
Entire_Adagio4768 on
If the conditioner in parliament don’t reflect the country, then we don’t have decision makers in touch with the people of the country.
Tancred1099 on
the ole 5th column is in and playing their role nicely
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We can’t expect our leaders to make good decisions when they’re *sober*, can we?
Yeah she’s got a great point, I don’t want the people making decisions that effect all of us anywhere near intoxicated.
If any one of us turned up and drank at work, I guarantee we would be out the door before the beverage was finished.
I find it outrageous that MPs are allowed to drink on the job. You would get fired for this in any other profession. It’s things like this that destroy public trust in politicians.
Don’t want it banned outright, maybe hours limited till parliaments out of session?
Interesting Spencer’s apparently decided this to be her raison d’etre.
Those saying everyone else would be fired have clearly never been in the city at lunchtime on any given weekday.
Hopefully she will keep on about it. They are there to work not get pissed on taxpayer subsidised booze.
It used to be acceptable in offices to come back a little drunk on a Friday afternoon maybe. These guys are having a pint with breakfast…
I work a shitty minimum wage job yet I’m expected to turn up to work sober and subject to random testing, why aren’t these clowns being tested and prosecuted for being intoxicated while in a position of responsibility. Didn’t they test the waste water under Westminster and found it laced with coke?
Probably thinks it should be a legal crack den instead
This is probably the most sober Parliament in the entirety of British history, and also probably the most pathetic and useless. MPs having a pint before walking down an aisle to vote how the whips tell them is not really anywhere on my list of concerns for how the country is run. The Greens having >1 MP/Hannah Spencer even being a thing is a far bigger indictment of the state of the country
a beer at lunch or a single glass of wine isn’t bad but if the mps are getting sloshed what the hell are we even doing here
Bruh click the link and 75% of my screen is ads, get fucked holy shit.
Blimey, some in-denial alcoholics showed up to this post.
Edit: Also a bunch of delusional people who think MPs are just having a pint in a day.
God it’s such a boring schtick – “Despite being a politician and a brazen and mendacious opportunist, I am different and above all the other brazen and mendacious political opportunists..”
She is going to bang this drum into the ground. And she’s a plumber BTW did you know ?
I saw her ask that question in pmq’s today, and instead of answering an actual serious point, the pm attacks her party leader and completely dodges the question. I want an answer to this, why am I subsidising people on 90k+ wages their vice during working hours? Like wtf hello?
The reality is that most people can have a drink or two at lunch without a scandal.
Except public sector workers who’d be in trouble. The same way politicians can solicit sugar daddies in newspapers but if the admin at a children’s home gets a gift over £5 they have to report and probably surrender it.
Of course that doesn’t stop some councils from being a bit corrupt but it’s funny that politicians are the only public servants not held to a high standard.
I’m slightly astonished at the number of people who are totally fine with MP’s drinking at work. In their tax payer subsidised work bar.
Yes, when I had a temp job moving office furniture we used to go for lunchtime beers. But now, in a job which has actual responsibility and requires thinking? Don’t be ridiculous.
I’d let them have subsidised food and drink of they did away with them having second jobs.
But they’re not going to go for that, so they should pay full whack like the rest of us.
Suggestion:
Shot of whiskey when entering the chamber – compulsory.
Pint before start of debate – compulsory.
Any beverage like tea, coffee, fruit juices to be fortified with rum – compulsory.
Any water serving must be 1 measure of water and 2 measures of wine – compulsory.
Can’t think of more, please suggest.
>Responding, the PM welcomed her to Westminster, but mocked the Green leader Zack > Polanski over his tax affairs. Earlier this month, the Green Party admitted Mr Polanski may have failed to pay the correct council tax while living on a London > houseboat.
[…]
“The only way to deliver that is through a Labour government, as we are doing. I > know the Greens think that their leader walks on water, it turns out that he just > lives on water and doesn’t pay his council tax.”
Very brave (not to say thick) given that his own Reeves has been reviewed for half a year for (checking notes) real estate tax evasion (put a required amount of sugar coating over this).
It’s double standards when MPs can drink cheaper drinks in Westminster than the public can in local pubs, maybe they would understand the cost of living a little better if they had to pay normal pub prices too…
The bigger issue is why politicians are drinking alcohol during the working day before making decisions/voting that affect the country?? Seems bizarre
Rather than trying to drag the politicians down with us we should demand our right to government subsidised pints on the job, seems like it will make work more tolerable tbh.
You know who else gets to have subsidised alcohol? The journalists in Parliament who report on the MPs.
That’s why they don’t really make a massive deal about it.
One thing no one seems to have picked up on is that MPs network, socialise and also entertain in the estate. Quite a few of the bars are also open to anyone on the estate, I think that’s around 10,000 people who can use them.
It’s a largely private and secure environment, remember this isn’t a factory job making widgets.
The prices are also more comparable to cheap pubs such as a Spoons.
Such an easy win for Starmer. A way to show the ‘draining of the swamp’. But he ignores the question.
The food is also insanely substasised too, Michellen star lobster is £15. All on the tax payers coin.
Put simply, politicians are held to account using the Nolan Principles. Any politician that is intoxicated at work has failed to meet the standard and should immediately resign or they make a mockery of parliament.
To clarify: intoxication doesn’t mean falling down drunk, it means a blood alcohol content level of 0.08g/L or higher. If they can’t legally operate machinery, they can’t rightfully make sound judgements on policies that impact the livlihoods of our citizens.
Do you expect any better from the greens. They’ve gone from tree huggers to once a country with no borders and drugs freely available in schools. And would you believe some people vote for them?
Is there nothing more pressing she could ask the PM? Seems odd to use your first question on this topic. It does create headlines I guess
you do all realise that her point isn’t “a pint with lunch” or a “quick one after a long day”, don’t you? if you literally *stink* of alcohol, you’ve not just had one drink.
are we really that fucking obsessed with our drinking culture that we’re fine with the people we’ve elected to make the decisions that effect our lives being drunk when they do so?
Just take away free or discounted stuff, stake away the ability to claim for housing and travel as you knew what you’d be doing for a living, the rest of us have to suck it up. Think she’d be happy with that as you can’t just pick on one element
If the conditioner in parliament don’t reflect the country, then we don’t have decision makers in touch with the people of the country.
the ole 5th column is in and playing their role nicely