Another referendum? I can see this going down well with the pro-brexit crowd.
By which I mean gullible morons.
Alternane on
Problem is so many people are brainwashed by right wing media that they think the only reason brexit was a disaster is because it wasn’t hard enough.
Archistotle on
Well, yeah. Hard as it is to hear, they’re not going to consider a membership application from a country that left a decade ago, and who currently has the guy largely responsible for that as the odds-on favourite for next Prime Minister.
If you want it to happen sooner you have to go out and put the work in, Politics is a participatory sport. But it’s going to be a long and largely thankless process.
Gone_4_Tea on
What a little over half of those who actually vote. Or do we have to achieve 67% or effectively 2 votes to 1 like when we joined the first time.
limaconnect77 on
More than half the electorate voted for it (Brexit) two minutes ago AND there’s always been a very creepy Tory fetish about them. In other words, no chance.
The petit bourgeois (a significant block of people) in this country will always vote in a direction that FIRST OFF guarantees they’ll end up better off when an election is done.
That spans the spectrum from flag-shaggers to Veggie-voting NIMBYs. Guaranteed why there will be a Tory-Fascist coalition at the next GE.
Edit:- apologies, meant ‘Tory-Reform’.
PangolinOk6793 on
I think this is planting the seeds that they will put a “rejoin the EU” referendum pledge in their 2029 manifesto. Putting down a clear marker of 2 different futures for the country.
wolf_in_sheeps_wool on
I think if this is ever going to happen, the people who voted leave need what *they* want too. One of the reasons *was EU* immigration but it wasn’t as big of a deal as it is now.
I remember I couldn’t decide as I was too overwhelmed with consequence and then found out people pulled reasons out of their butt like “I want to stay because I like travelling” or “I want to leave because I want to keep the pound notes”.
And Reddit likes to pretend leaving wasn’t also a protest vote for some people. It was the British Sovereignty leaving what people were accustomed to. People voted leave and expected the goverment to fight for what they voted for. I don’t think the government actually wanted to leave and they did limp fisted deals that nobody was satisfied with and the government proceeded to ruin that theme of sovereignty over the next decade. It will be a *nobody’s tried real Brexit* situation. So it’ll be a hard sell, I don’t think impossible.
DynamicCast on
We were the first country to leave the EU. If we rejoined I think there’s a pretty good chance we’ll become the first country to leave twice.
IgneousJam on
Already got consensus via referendum, almost 1 decade ago. Do keep up
Subject-Ad2357 on
can we shut up abt this now. why are politicians so obsessed with bringing this topics up. Brexit was a failure and never should have happened but reigniting those debates while this country is going nowhere is pointless.
we’re not gonna join the EU for the next 50 years at least and certainly not when our own situation is dire. what politicians should be looking at it is how to maximise trade with eu and bring further tariffs down. the country is very divided and all people wanna do is divide it further
Mr_B_e_a_r on
Will have to be. Starmer trying on his own but that’s not what the average guy on the street want looking at their wallets and with an ever increasing government spending with money they don’t have.
JustWhy1222 on
Well obviously. The chance of the EU allowing us to rejoin without a referendum, especially when the state of our politics is suffering so much turbulence is basically a non starter.
I honestly don’t even think they’d accept our government pushing for rejoining after being elected to specifically do that. Not when whoever replaces them can just walk us back out.
It will have to be a referendum.
TheDaemonette on
We didn’t even have a ‘national consensus’ about leaving the bloody EU. What makes him think we’ll get a consensus about rejoining?
klawUK on
I don’t know anyone that thinks it would be politically sensible to push for rejoining the EU.
But friction free trade? I would think that could be done without too much push back – many wouldn’t have assumed that would have been part of the brexit deal in the first place
Jensen1994 on
Is the right Miliband edging back to UK politics? The one that can safely eat a bacon roll in front of cameras? Because at the moment, the only Miliband we have would rather relax sanctions on Russian oil than open up our own oilfields….
citizen-spur on
We’d the Texas of Europe!
(I’m more anti-Europe than pro, but happy for another referendum. One sinking ship to another tis all)
SarcasticallyCandour on
Well you can do that but have even more mass immigration as EU mandated quotas are being developed. The reason Brexit won is likely due to mass immigration. Joining will ensure quotas of mass intake or fines.
Buttermyparsnips on
I’d be curious if geography wasnt an issue how many g20 countries would be desperate to join the eu
Andromidius on
You know what? Apparently we don’t. Because the government does whatever it wants with every other issue, ignoring what the ‘national consensus is’. Just do it, like you do everything else (like leaving the EU and every single european organisation despite the fact it was only an advisory referendum on leaving the EU and not everything else).
The fact they are playing this game annoys me. They are trying to keep us pissed off too. Keeps us divided. And unfortunately a lot of people gleefully play right into their hands.
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Another referendum? I can see this going down well with the pro-brexit crowd.
By which I mean gullible morons.
Problem is so many people are brainwashed by right wing media that they think the only reason brexit was a disaster is because it wasn’t hard enough.
Well, yeah. Hard as it is to hear, they’re not going to consider a membership application from a country that left a decade ago, and who currently has the guy largely responsible for that as the odds-on favourite for next Prime Minister.
If you want it to happen sooner you have to go out and put the work in, Politics is a participatory sport. But it’s going to be a long and largely thankless process.
What a little over half of those who actually vote. Or do we have to achieve 67% or effectively 2 votes to 1 like when we joined the first time.
More than half the electorate voted for it (Brexit) two minutes ago AND there’s always been a very creepy Tory fetish about them. In other words, no chance.
The petit bourgeois (a significant block of people) in this country will always vote in a direction that FIRST OFF guarantees they’ll end up better off when an election is done.
That spans the spectrum from flag-shaggers to Veggie-voting NIMBYs. Guaranteed why there will be a Tory-Fascist coalition at the next GE.
Edit:- apologies, meant ‘Tory-Reform’.
I think this is planting the seeds that they will put a “rejoin the EU” referendum pledge in their 2029 manifesto. Putting down a clear marker of 2 different futures for the country.
I think if this is ever going to happen, the people who voted leave need what *they* want too. One of the reasons *was EU* immigration but it wasn’t as big of a deal as it is now.
I remember I couldn’t decide as I was too overwhelmed with consequence and then found out people pulled reasons out of their butt like “I want to stay because I like travelling” or “I want to leave because I want to keep the pound notes”.
And Reddit likes to pretend leaving wasn’t also a protest vote for some people. It was the British Sovereignty leaving what people were accustomed to. People voted leave and expected the goverment to fight for what they voted for. I don’t think the government actually wanted to leave and they did limp fisted deals that nobody was satisfied with and the government proceeded to ruin that theme of sovereignty over the next decade. It will be a *nobody’s tried real Brexit* situation. So it’ll be a hard sell, I don’t think impossible.
We were the first country to leave the EU. If we rejoined I think there’s a pretty good chance we’ll become the first country to leave twice.
Already got consensus via referendum, almost 1 decade ago. Do keep up
can we shut up abt this now. why are politicians so obsessed with bringing this topics up. Brexit was a failure and never should have happened but reigniting those debates while this country is going nowhere is pointless.
we’re not gonna join the EU for the next 50 years at least and certainly not when our own situation is dire. what politicians should be looking at it is how to maximise trade with eu and bring further tariffs down. the country is very divided and all people wanna do is divide it further
Will have to be. Starmer trying on his own but that’s not what the average guy on the street want looking at their wallets and with an ever increasing government spending with money they don’t have.
Well obviously. The chance of the EU allowing us to rejoin without a referendum, especially when the state of our politics is suffering so much turbulence is basically a non starter.
I honestly don’t even think they’d accept our government pushing for rejoining after being elected to specifically do that. Not when whoever replaces them can just walk us back out.
It will have to be a referendum.
We didn’t even have a ‘national consensus’ about leaving the bloody EU. What makes him think we’ll get a consensus about rejoining?
I don’t know anyone that thinks it would be politically sensible to push for rejoining the EU.
But friction free trade? I would think that could be done without too much push back – many wouldn’t have assumed that would have been part of the brexit deal in the first place
Is the right Miliband edging back to UK politics? The one that can safely eat a bacon roll in front of cameras? Because at the moment, the only Miliband we have would rather relax sanctions on Russian oil than open up our own oilfields….
We’d the Texas of Europe!
(I’m more anti-Europe than pro, but happy for another referendum. One sinking ship to another tis all)
Well you can do that but have even more mass immigration as EU mandated quotas are being developed. The reason Brexit won is likely due to mass immigration. Joining will ensure quotas of mass intake or fines.
I’d be curious if geography wasnt an issue how many g20 countries would be desperate to join the eu
You know what? Apparently we don’t. Because the government does whatever it wants with every other issue, ignoring what the ‘national consensus is’. Just do it, like you do everything else (like leaving the EU and every single european organisation despite the fact it was only an advisory referendum on leaving the EU and not everything else).
The fact they are playing this game annoys me. They are trying to keep us pissed off too. Keeps us divided. And unfortunately a lot of people gleefully play right into their hands.