>**“I thought there was a fair chance that Trump was going to order the 82nd Airborne Division into the streets, and maybe even direct them to shoot the protesters,”** Esper wrote later in his autobiography.
>The text messages suggest Hegseth would not put up similar resistance. Weaver repeatedly states that the secretary would follow Trump’s order and boasts about using his sway to influence the decision.
>“I’ll get us to yes. I always find a way,” he wrote.
ExtensionParsley4205 on
Wouldn’t be surprised if this was leaked on purpose.
User4C4C4C on
I hope they don’t oppress Portland’s artisan cheeses and finely crafted coffees. That would rally get them riled up!
AcanthisittaNo6653 on
Sending the 82nd Airborne to pick up roadside trash in Portland is breaking the 7th seal.
BluesTotino on
I have a family member visiting here right now, it’s been an eye opener to them to cruise around Portland having a totally normal nice time while it’s once again being portrayed nationally as a destroyed city on the brink of turning into Thunderdome with a Police chief who is an ANTIFA double agent
CAM6913 on
The purge has begun! Treasonous trump sending troops into American cities is an act of a totalitarian dictatorship and against the constitution and rule of law but the GOP controlled Congress is not going to do anything to stop him but quit the opposite they are cheering him on because it’s enemy territory to them ( democrats cities). This is also is a way to provoke a response and then declare civil unrest, declare martial law and send in troops full force then cancel the elections due to civil unrest and martial law but he will have civilians rounded up and disappeared that are deemed not loyal enough to him. He’s carrying out project 2025 to the letter.
CancelOk9776 on
The Felon is pretty much waging war against citizens of the US! This is what political repression looks like. This is how it started in Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy!
FloridaGirlNikki on
What an insult that would be to the 82nd Airborne. These soldiers are trained to go into a battlezone and fight actual enemies, not their friends and neighbors.
This is out of fucking control. Not to mention the unconstitutionality.
SirRichardLove on
To do, what?
TheDwellingHeart on
I am really glad I am not a member of the US Army anymore. What an embarrassment.
Those in the military will eventually be forced to make a decision. Some will gleefully follow orders. Some will refuse. Some will hate their existence and regret signing up… in the end the military will fracture. Morale will be in the toilet.
The unity is crumbling.
Acceptable-Bus-2017 on
How are they allowed to get away with using signal still? Oh, right, they’re in charge, and there’s no one that is in a position to stop them.
Scase15 on
I know the whole “It doesn’t matter if it is illegal if no one enforces the law” thing, but isn’t this just straight up forbidden in the constitution?
Like the national guard you can make some sort of weak argument, but isn’t this just directly an army unit that is expressly used for non domestic operations?
BonniesCoffee on
The elite army unit can have a holiday in Portland!
missed_sla on
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
daddyneedsadrink on
Any troops who willingly follow these orders don’t deserve any respect
janzeera on
Elite Garbage Detail
gianni1980 on
So when do the soldiers start realizing this is crazy? The ones that are coming from the neighborhoods the military is being sent to?
JolleyRedGiant on
Would this be the first time the military has been deployed like this since 1957 Little Rock?
End3rWi99in on
Need to drop in heavy to stop those hippies from playing hacky sack.
End3rWi99in on
October 18th is going to be interesting. We gotta show up. Hopefully we’ll get a free Blue Angel’s flyby in DC.
rainman_104 on
Is it that bad in Portland? I haven’t been there since the whole maga 2016 bullishit but it seemed like a nice place before that.
Certainly not a war zone needing the national guard called in.
This strikes me as a show of power.
Basic_Ask8109 on
Ah signal… The scandal that keeps giving….
Such incompetence everywhere.
And the US is a very unserious country. When you have a reality TV personality as president you get scandal after scandal and yet nothing is being done.
You have some states still clueless about tourism being down from last year and they have zero self awareness about people refusing to visit the dumpster fire.
RogueScholarDerp on
Did they mean Poland? Is spellcheck down during the shutdown?
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Nuts!
The only saving grace to the coming Christian fascist dictatorship is that they’re so goddamned incompetent that they’ll cause their own collapse.
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“Anthony Salisbury, a top deputy to Stephen Miller, the influential White House policy adviser, was observed using Signal in a public place”
HAHAHAHAH Signal has played an actual part in his administration
“What is shit OpSec?”, Ken
It’s time for the fabulous Teal Team 5, featuring DJ TJ.
A link to the original article referenced: [Trump officials discussed sending elite Army division to Portland, text messages show](https://archive.ph/KjLD4#selection-531.0-531.85)
And a key takeaway, emphasis mine:
>Trump wanted to deploy the 82nd into American cities during social justice protests in 2020 after the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis, [according to multiple accounts.](https://archive.ph/o/KjLD4/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/us/politics/esper-defense-secretary.html) Trump fired Secretary of Defense Mark Esper after Esper publicly announced his opposition to the plan.
>**“I thought there was a fair chance that Trump was going to order the 82nd Airborne Division into the streets, and maybe even direct them to shoot the protesters,”** Esper wrote later in his autobiography.
>The text messages suggest Hegseth would not put up similar resistance. Weaver repeatedly states that the secretary would follow Trump’s order and boasts about using his sway to influence the decision.
>“I’ll get us to yes. I always find a way,” he wrote.
Wouldn’t be surprised if this was leaked on purpose.
I hope they don’t oppress Portland’s artisan cheeses and finely crafted coffees. That would rally get them riled up!
Sending the 82nd Airborne to pick up roadside trash in Portland is breaking the 7th seal.
I have a family member visiting here right now, it’s been an eye opener to them to cruise around Portland having a totally normal nice time while it’s once again being portrayed nationally as a destroyed city on the brink of turning into Thunderdome with a Police chief who is an ANTIFA double agent
The purge has begun! Treasonous trump sending troops into American cities is an act of a totalitarian dictatorship and against the constitution and rule of law but the GOP controlled Congress is not going to do anything to stop him but quit the opposite they are cheering him on because it’s enemy territory to them ( democrats cities). This is also is a way to provoke a response and then declare civil unrest, declare martial law and send in troops full force then cancel the elections due to civil unrest and martial law but he will have civilians rounded up and disappeared that are deemed not loyal enough to him. He’s carrying out project 2025 to the letter.
The Felon is pretty much waging war against citizens of the US! This is what political repression looks like. This is how it started in Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy!
What an insult that would be to the 82nd Airborne. These soldiers are trained to go into a battlezone and fight actual enemies, not their friends and neighbors.
This is out of fucking control. Not to mention the unconstitutionality.
To do, what?
I am really glad I am not a member of the US Army anymore. What an embarrassment.
Those in the military will eventually be forced to make a decision. Some will gleefully follow orders. Some will refuse. Some will hate their existence and regret signing up… in the end the military will fracture. Morale will be in the toilet.
The unity is crumbling.
How are they allowed to get away with using signal still? Oh, right, they’re in charge, and there’s no one that is in a position to stop them.
I know the whole “It doesn’t matter if it is illegal if no one enforces the law” thing, but isn’t this just straight up forbidden in the constitution?
Like the national guard you can make some sort of weak argument, but isn’t this just directly an army unit that is expressly used for non domestic operations?
The elite army unit can have a holiday in Portland!
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Any troops who willingly follow these orders don’t deserve any respect
Elite Garbage Detail
So when do the soldiers start realizing this is crazy? The ones that are coming from the neighborhoods the military is being sent to?
Would this be the first time the military has been deployed like this since 1957 Little Rock?
Need to drop in heavy to stop those hippies from playing hacky sack.
October 18th is going to be interesting. We gotta show up. Hopefully we’ll get a free Blue Angel’s flyby in DC.
Is it that bad in Portland? I haven’t been there since the whole maga 2016 bullishit but it seemed like a nice place before that.
Certainly not a war zone needing the national guard called in.
This strikes me as a show of power.
Ah signal… The scandal that keeps giving….
Such incompetence everywhere.
And the US is a very unserious country. When you have a reality TV personality as president you get scandal after scandal and yet nothing is being done.
You have some states still clueless about tourism being down from last year and they have zero self awareness about people refusing to visit the dumpster fire.
Did they mean Poland? Is spellcheck down during the shutdown?
Elite Army Unit = Oxymoron innit !