Surely the fact this is unlawful means whoever he gave the order to doesnt have to follow it?
Historical_Bend_2629 on
Wonder if the MAGA is enjoying how their tax dollars are being used.
PhoneFresh7595 on
Soldiers can refuse an illegal order
Nintendo_Pro_03 on
He wants to wage war without waging war. That’s his revenge on the country.
StrangerFew2424 on
I’m sure the party of law & order will be outraged… 🙄
GingerMoonbeam- on
Trump is literally acting like a dictator, defying court orders and seldom troops to Portland. What next?
ghoti99 on
It’s gonna get real wild on the other side of all this. The military takes care of its own which means there’s gonna be some discharges if it’s determined the chain of command was broken. And based on the silent generals meeting with Pete “cry baby bitch” Hegseth they don’t have the manpower to replace the number of people they’d have to remove to get the military on their side.
paxwells97 on
They should immediately be arrested by california or Oregon police
SojuLantern on
Trump action is a direct threat to our democracy
Goal-Final on
Can anyone clarify this? I know that Trump is commander in chief but since the National Guard is state based and the court says that it is an illegal action why Governor Newsom doesn’t tell them not to obey President’s order?
thoughtxchange on
I wonder how the Republican congresspeople are going to spin this straight up illegal action. We are quickly entering into territory i seriously wonder if we will be able to recover from. He is just going to keep pushing through the barriers we have in place. His aggression feels full on Hitler right now. At some point soon action of some type will have to happen to save us all from this insanity.
twitch_delta_blues on
“They were testing the fences for weaknesses, systematically. They remember.”
Historical_Bend_2629 on
Defying the federal court is the bigger implication here. National guard from California is unlikely to be on board with this unconstitutional stupid use of their time and taxpayer money. This is Project 2025 authors seeing how much they can defy the judiciary.
batgirlyy29 on
Should we say Trump is a dictator coz he’s already acting like one.
absentmindedjwc on
The governor of Oregon needs to deploy her national guard to the border of the state and refuse to allow access. This is a move towards civil war.
tiggie_7 on
The hell does he care about laws right now? 😂 it’s the most insane, corrupt, unlawful, unconstitutional administration in practically our entire history.. our government is actually, currently, unironically the true ‘enemy from within’, yet they’re still being given all the power… it’s fantastic…
Impossible-Throat-59 on
The National Guard is now complicit in completing illegal orders. Every serviceman is taught there is an obligation to disobey an illegal order and these Guardsmen have shown they will break the law at the command of the President of the United States.
kevendo on
Since the judge ruled Trump cannot federalize these Guardsman, doesn’t that mean they are CA Guard and Newsom can order them back?
If they refuse, doesn’t that mean CA could charge them with being AWOL?
Aren’t there state crimes being committed here, either in Oregon or from California?
aslan_is_on_the_move on
This is why he fired a US attorney who told government officials they had to follow court orders
PenImpossible874 on
California needs its own self-defense force that is not under the control of the feds. All blue states need them.
Red America has already declared war on blue America.
Phantom_61 on
He thinks it’s okay because the judge only said he can’t activate the Oregon national guard.
Forgetting he was stripped of the power to utilize the California national guard in a previous ruling.
LineElegant3832 on
House to do’s:
1) replace the feckless Speaker
2) impeach this tyrant President
JoshJoshson13 on
Republicans are the party of lawlessness
HENMAN79 on
Closer to Civil War everyday
quartzcharm on
The troops need to defy this order. It’s unlawful and it’s their duty not to comply.
gwsth on
I’ve said this before, and I will say this again.
The military is not on your side. The military will side with Trump.
Ask yourself this: If the military were going to disobey Trump’s orders, why didn’t they do so several cities ago? They are *already* performing operations in US cities, against US citizens and lawful residents. Why haven’t they already refused? Are there a certain number of illegal orders that must be given, violations of the Constitution, or minimum number of cities that must be occupied before they finally decide to act?
If they were going to refuse, they’d have already done so by now.
r1mbaud on
The future will not be kind to these cretins.
Uncle_Hephaestus on
I would throw a USO show and make a big spectacle of it them send trump the bills
Rhoeri on
It’s not illegal if you’re above the law and everyone is too chicken shit to do anything about it.
Trump owns America. It’s is possession. He’s doing with it whatever the fuck he wants because no one will stop him.
engineered_chicken on
Can the Governor of Oregon mobilize the ONG to repel the invaders?
More-Dot346 on
I don’t see how this is defying the federal court. There was an order from a Portland, Oregon federal judge prohibiting Trump using Oregon state National Guard.
minkasp65 on
Charges need to be filed like now
availablelol on
They shouldn’t be following an unlawful order.
JinimyCritic on
“Defies federal court” is sane-washing for “breaks the law”, isn’t it?
DoomUntoOtherz42 on
Can’t newsom stop this? I thought NG was under the states leadership
Ice_Solid on
And they are not getting paid!
Current_Animator7546 on
Of all Trump has done this is truly a line that is very scary. Literally defying a court order. Blue states need to withhold money pronto. I say this as someone living in a red state
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Surely the fact this is unlawful means whoever he gave the order to doesnt have to follow it?
Wonder if the MAGA is enjoying how their tax dollars are being used.
Soldiers can refuse an illegal order
He wants to wage war without waging war. That’s his revenge on the country.
I’m sure the party of law & order will be outraged… 🙄
Trump is literally acting like a dictator, defying court orders and seldom troops to Portland. What next?
It’s gonna get real wild on the other side of all this. The military takes care of its own which means there’s gonna be some discharges if it’s determined the chain of command was broken. And based on the silent generals meeting with Pete “cry baby bitch” Hegseth they don’t have the manpower to replace the number of people they’d have to remove to get the military on their side.
They should immediately be arrested by california or Oregon police
Trump action is a direct threat to our democracy
Can anyone clarify this? I know that Trump is commander in chief but since the National Guard is state based and the court says that it is an illegal action why Governor Newsom doesn’t tell them not to obey President’s order?
I wonder how the Republican congresspeople are going to spin this straight up illegal action. We are quickly entering into territory i seriously wonder if we will be able to recover from. He is just going to keep pushing through the barriers we have in place. His aggression feels full on Hitler right now. At some point soon action of some type will have to happen to save us all from this insanity.
“They were testing the fences for weaknesses, systematically. They remember.”
Defying the federal court is the bigger implication here. National guard from California is unlikely to be on board with this unconstitutional stupid use of their time and taxpayer money. This is Project 2025 authors seeing how much they can defy the judiciary.
Should we say Trump is a dictator coz he’s already acting like one.
The governor of Oregon needs to deploy her national guard to the border of the state and refuse to allow access. This is a move towards civil war.
The hell does he care about laws right now? 😂 it’s the most insane, corrupt, unlawful, unconstitutional administration in practically our entire history.. our government is actually, currently, unironically the true ‘enemy from within’, yet they’re still being given all the power… it’s fantastic…
The National Guard is now complicit in completing illegal orders. Every serviceman is taught there is an obligation to disobey an illegal order and these Guardsmen have shown they will break the law at the command of the President of the United States.
Since the judge ruled Trump cannot federalize these Guardsman, doesn’t that mean they are CA Guard and Newsom can order them back?
If they refuse, doesn’t that mean CA could charge them with being AWOL?
Aren’t there state crimes being committed here, either in Oregon or from California?
This is why he fired a US attorney who told government officials they had to follow court orders
California needs its own self-defense force that is not under the control of the feds. All blue states need them.
Red America has already declared war on blue America.
He thinks it’s okay because the judge only said he can’t activate the Oregon national guard.
Forgetting he was stripped of the power to utilize the California national guard in a previous ruling.
House to do’s:
1) replace the feckless Speaker
2) impeach this tyrant President
Republicans are the party of lawlessness
Closer to Civil War everyday
The troops need to defy this order. It’s unlawful and it’s their duty not to comply.
I’ve said this before, and I will say this again.
The military is not on your side. The military will side with Trump.
Ask yourself this: If the military were going to disobey Trump’s orders, why didn’t they do so several cities ago? They are *already* performing operations in US cities, against US citizens and lawful residents. Why haven’t they already refused? Are there a certain number of illegal orders that must be given, violations of the Constitution, or minimum number of cities that must be occupied before they finally decide to act?
If they were going to refuse, they’d have already done so by now.
The future will not be kind to these cretins.
I would throw a USO show and make a big spectacle of it them send trump the bills
It’s not illegal if you’re above the law and everyone is too chicken shit to do anything about it.
Trump owns America. It’s is possession. He’s doing with it whatever the fuck he wants because no one will stop him.
Can the Governor of Oregon mobilize the ONG to repel the invaders?
I don’t see how this is defying the federal court. There was an order from a Portland, Oregon federal judge prohibiting Trump using Oregon state National Guard.
Charges need to be filed like now
They shouldn’t be following an unlawful order.
“Defies federal court” is sane-washing for “breaks the law”, isn’t it?
Can’t newsom stop this? I thought NG was under the states leadership
And they are not getting paid!
Of all Trump has done this is truly a line that is very scary. Literally defying a court order. Blue states need to withhold money pronto. I say this as someone living in a red state